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Big episode today. Big episode, big episode. COO low French. I mean, you and Bo are the only ones that could do this episode with me and Bo just did last week, so like he he's out. Also, if anyone wants to get Bo's take on finally being able to talk about Vanderpump Villa, you can go listen to The Good, the Bad, the Baby on Patreon. We talk a whole lot about it. Yeah, finally, I know. No, like I don't think anyone understands that I've been hiding in my, I, I feel like I hide. In my house and then when I'm told like, oh you have to leave your house and go somewhere and talk to people, my heart sinks into my butt because I'm like people are gonna say what's been going on and I'm not gonna be able to say anything. I have to say oh nothing. Same old two kids podcast, you know, like when I wanted to be like for the past how long, how long has it been? we filmed Vanner Pumpvilla in August, in August, OK, we were there for a month and a half. How many months is that February March 8 months of my life that I have not been. I mean, the deadline announcement came out that you are participating in Villa, but we were sworn to then we were sworn to secrecy make it make sense. No, right, even when I was there, I'm gonna say this, I don't care who hears me. I don't care if like any PR people. With Hulu, whatever, Disney, I hear it now, hear it now, you guys, that was not helpful. That wasn't helpful. We were in Italy filming, having an amazing summer. any 12th century Italian castle. If there was ever a moment. For me to be like, I think this feels right to go film this, you know, I've been off reality TV for 5 years. This, I'm like a 12th century Italian castle. Are you s**tting me and my family can come. I, I can bring my kids and like I'm not, I'm not having to work, you know what I mean? I had a little bit of PTSD maybe the whole time we're watching. The staff work because like I'm used to filming Vanderpump roles, you know, where it's like it's either a server at sir or I don't know, party planning. Oh my God, event planning, that's right, just feeling like I had to show right you were working. I had to work in some way. I had to have a task, not here, not here. I literally got to live my best life in Italy and Lo came with us the whole entire time because we still had to, I still had to podcast and work and do things. It's like I couldn't just like take off and we were planning and doing press for your book tour which was right after right after so it was like Lo was in Italy with us for a month and a half also and she was so this is, this was my message to Hulu and Dizzy PR. They made the announcement. They were like, kind of early on. I feel like it was like August 12th. Like it was, it was pretty, it wasn't at the end. It wasn't at the end. And so they announced, well, they announced Stasi says. More on that another day, um, and then they announced Vanner Pump Villa, but then they said, but you're not allowed to say that you're here, even though you're going to film a video with Lisa in the Italian castle and post it, and I'm like, uh. Yeah, but you can't say Italy. You can't say you're filming right now. You, you just have to say you're in Europe with your family. Yeah, I'm like, wait, but you guys know, everyone's aware, like, you know, my agents had it worked out with everyone that like I still will be podcasting from Italy because I have to still work. And they're like, yeah, for sure. And I'm like, and you know that my podcast is, it's me based. It's just about your daily life. It's about my life experience. So if I'm not allowed to say what I'm doing, how am I supposed to do my job? And they were like, I don't know, figure it out. I'm like, OK, this is wild. And then in terms of posting, they were like, you can't post any photos to where people can place where you're at, right? And I'm like, OK, so I'm literally just gonna pose in front of brick walls, yeah, and you, I posted so many like plates of food, which people could probably figure out Italy, but like it could have been anywhere. I know like at some point I was like, I've posted a lot of pizza. Do you think they're good people are just gonna narrow it down to Italy and then I'm gonna get in trouble with Hulu and they're gonna call me and be like, too much pizza. Can you throw anything else in there? I felt. Limiting because when you're on vacation, all you want to do like I don't post unless I'm on vacation. So all you want to do is post like everything and we couldn't. Our camera rolls are full. I know, I know it was like such a mind f**k like it really was and especially knowing that people knew we were in Italy because we took a family vacay in Florence ahead of time and so I'm like, well, people already know him. Here I've been posting from Florence, but there were like rumors that I remember seeing during that time where people thought like, oh, they started in Florence and then they went to France because they thought Vander Pumpvilla was still in France, it was the last season. So people had some theories, but then I think a lot of people just weren't paying close enough attention either. But then I wasn't allowed to say that I filmed it. So like I got back home. And then went on tour on thousands of people and everyone kept asking me about it and I'm like, I don't know what to say. I'm apparently not allowed to even say anything, so I, I just was like literally like paralyzed. Like I couldn't form and I'm like, you know what, I, I don't want to go anywhere anymore because someone's gonna ask me about it and I'm gonna say the wrong thing and you know I said this again. I've said this a million times. I said this, I think on the good, the bad, the baby last because like I am a rule follower, yeah, like I think people would be surprised to hear that. Because like I don't think, well, at least I don't think I give you give rule follower energy. Thank you. I'll take that as a compliment. Well, I think it is because the world needs rule followers, but I think that by watching Vanner pump rules, yeah, you don't, I don't. Maybe IRL in real life, I give rule follower energy, but I think on Van or pump rules I don't. And so I think people would be like, what she, no, she's more of a rule breaker. No, I'm not, because my philosophy is Civilization, oh wow, you know, like just society, just like as human beings like we, we don't, we won't be able to function properly without certain rules, right? Otherwise it's chaos. So even if you don't agree with the rules. Which happens all the time. Just because I'm a rule follower doesn't mean I agree with them. It's, it's annoying to follow some of the rules I follow, like for real. Like, stop lights don't always need to be there, like, especially at like 4 in the morning when there are no other cars, not that I'm driving at 4 in the morning. I was just trying to think of an example of like when I just feel like, uh, do we need to, yeah, but like the world would collapse if we didn't have rules. Therefore, I always follow rules so that I can just fall in line and be part of the solution. I think you're more of a like, you need to know the rules to break them. So I mean some rules are meant to be broken, yeah, because I feel like you make calculated rule breaks and you like to make rules. Oh well, that's, yeah, I mean, making rules, is there a more fun thing to do? I mean, no, like making rules is that's your new hobby. That's screw flower ranging. It's rulemaking, right? Uh, yeah, no, there's, there's a high I get from rulemaking that I, I can only instill in this house, let's be real, like I don't get to make rules anywhere else. I think you're doing a good job. Thank you. I think both kids love making rules. You're teaching them. But I followed the rules. Yeah, I didn't agree with the rules, but I followed them, and it has been stressing me out. And then for it to be so silent for eight months, and I'm like, holy s**t, like I had to at some point like compartmentalize and just tuck all the. Those memories away in like a smaller area of my brain. I know it was so weird. Yeah, like Bo and Lo would both be like, should we like watch Orvieto YouTube because that's what we did leading up to filming, leading up to going and spending the summer there. We're like all day in the background of our house, it didn't matter what we were doing. Orvieto YouTube walking tours were just always around so that we knew where we were going and we were spending, I mean, Uh, over a month in this one little town, it's a place that most people just visit for a day. So we got to be there for a whole month and like now watching the videos, I know that place like the back of my hand, it's so weird. Yes, and so when we got back like the month after, Bo and Lo would both want to go and watch them and we'd look at. Photos and be like remember like the cat that Hartford would pet all the time or oh remember like this one restaurant or this one place or whatever and Sassy was like, oh yeah, I, I forgot about that. I know I had to like you blocked it. I had to tuck everything away because I'm like if I can't fully live out loud right. I don't wanna live at all. Then I don't want to live it at all, like, you know, and now I can. So all these new memories are like just like flooding back and like now I'm like going through my phone. I'm watching all the videos and I'm like going through all the photos and I'm like, oh my God, that was fun. Like holy s**t like I'm not like I'm not joking when I say like every morning me and my kids got to wake up in this castle and just Have a morning walk around a medieval castle, like in Italy with our coffee and just listen to music and I'm like, this was our life for so long and it was just so cool and like meeting the staff and becoming friends with everyone and like having all the guest groups come in and like all of these different events take place every other day was just like, or every day, it was just like, So much, so much, just so much and it was just so exciting and so cool and I like can't wait for it to come out and everyone to see and like my friends and family come as a guest group. I haven't really even talked about that. My sister Georgie, Bo's sister Georgia, the Taylors come, came and Rob, Bo's best friend came, so like we got to do a guest group for my birthday. Ding ding ding birthday. I think people could tell in the trailer that like I'm mildly dark passenger, which is You know, it's a curious thing. Like, would it be your birthday? Well, if there wasn't a meltdown, but this is, I've been trying to think about this. Like I haven't dark passenger in a really long time. Yeah, and so I'm like, why then? Why there? Why on TV? Like because probably cameras. Why can't I control myself? And I think it's, it's a, it's a mixture of A few things. First of all, yes, the fact that cameras are around, it's like everything's heightened. The stress level is just higher. It's it's overwhelming and it just, it causes your brain to like spiral a little bit and just like not function properly. But I also think there's something to the fact of like birthdays, there's so much. Added pressure for it to be fun for everyone to be having a great time for it to be like not a snooze fest. So then that's like you add the pressure of cameras and the pressure of like, oh, it's your birthday and like and everyone needs to be having fun and you're just like bound and alcohol, yeah, you're just like bound to spiral. So like I'm gonna defend. The dark birthday dark passenger. OK, it's not like I broke any phones. No, this was very mild compared to your previous, you know, dark passengering moments. It was giving like 36 year old coastal grand dark passenger, throws a little fit, you know, yeah, it throws a little, a little fit, yeah, so like it is. This is what it is, right, but like even watching like this is the Mormon wives came and I wasn't allowed to say anything and then I was sitting there talking about the show, but I wasn't allowed to even say like I met them and like everything that went down with them is crazy like they were all so f**king nice, so fun, like just like such a cool group but like. Caused a ruckus caused also fun fact about that time. So you were doing podcast ads for Mormon wives. So they sent when when podcasters do ads for a TV show, they'll send you some of the episodes ahead of time so you really know what you're talking about. And so we had watched a few of the Secret Lives season one before the Mormon. came to the villa and it was before they had seen their show. I know. So yeah, so when I saw them, I was like, you guys, you have a hit. I was and they were like, What? They were like, really? And I'm like, I, I sat up in my Italian castle in my room and last night, and I just watched a bunch of episodes because I'm doing ads for you guys and it's so that was also trippy to just like be in a medieval castle and like log on to my computer and watch like a new show like that was just like. This is so crazy, um, but then the fact that they hadn't seen it yet, and I'm like, no, you guys, and they were so nervous. Yeah, they were like, is it good? I don't know. Like I'm like, no, it's f**king so good. Like it's really good. Everyone should be really excited, pumped, proud of yourselves, like you delivered great f**king television. Yeah, that was so wild like that happened. It's so long ago now. It's crazy like so much has happened. I know it feels like it should be a different age, but like I'm still the same age. Oh weird, because it was right after my birthday. Yeah, like the birthday group that I had, it was belated and we, we made fun of it, but like, you know, TV shows have schedules, so yeah, so what what what could have been done, um, but yeah, I'm just really excited for it to come out and I feel like it's a spoiler, I've seen every episode. It's a really good season and um everyone should just like get pumped. It's gonna be exciting. It's gonna be really, really exciting. Um, and if you go to Italy, go to Orvieto. It's such a cute freaking town. Like, I can't even, there's such a special place in my heart for it now because we like lived there. Like if you want to experience Italy. As a local, but still get like the beauty and glory of the architecture and feel like you're, you know what I mean like it's, it's just like a mini Florence on top of a plateau, I guess is what we've decided it's a volcanic. Yeah, like you guys, it's like a Walden city, like it's because it was like a fortress like back in the day when there was a big war, they were like, where can we go that nobody can get us and like kill us and then they went up. But you know what's kind of crazy about that story is that like how'd they know, like how'd they know they were gonna have enough time to go like build a town? I don't think they had enough time. They just like did what they had to do, remember. They lived in those caves and then they built a well to like funnel the water up there, but they just figured it out. It's just the fact that they like built this town because of like war and stuff like they're like uh oh, people are gonna come attack us like that that town looks like it took a long time. I feel like war was like pretty prevalent back then. So it's like it's gonna happen no matter what. Yeah, all day every day. Yeah, because we're talking what, like 800s or something. It was early and during that time, yeah. How they, who gave them the message? Who you didn't just send a text being like, yo, battles upon us, people on horseback, maybe just carrying letters and just like hoping that that person who's carrying that important letter doesn't perish in some way and they make it to the town. Yeah, and it's like months late, obviously. If they're on horseback from like wherever. I, I watch all these period pieces and so you should know they don't really focus a lot of that on that. They don't ever like, yeah, they'll be like send a letter here boy, I'm choosing you to deliver this letter, you know, like we've seen that a lot in the most recent Outlander. Yeah, not that it's real, but it kind of is, um, but like that also was only like a few 100 years ago like I think also like. Leaders would go to Rome to like negotiate or talk to whoever and then they would come back and so they would like give the message of like what's happening in the city. And it was kind of like, like word of mouth, probably word of mouth, word of mouths like TikTok, but Orvieto remember had like a bazillion caves like we went on a cave tour and that was just a few of them, but it was, it was a ton of caves. So I feel like that was the start of it, which is so crazy, yeah, for sure. But yeah, if you want to experience something like Roam or Florence, but you don't want to be like all touristy like Orvieto is the place to go. And if you just spend one day there, you've already got it. But if you spend a few days there, you really got it, you really got it. If you want to just pick up and go there for a month and a half, you, you own it and you will like the locals, the people at the shops will start to know you after like 3 days. like, why are you still like why are you still here? I noticed you, although they all knew that it was Lisa's castle. Oh, are you here for Lisa's castle? Yeah, like they all knew a show was happening, which is so cute. I know it was really cute. What an experience. What a time to be alive. What a time to be alive. Choosing a children's vitamin for your children is tough because I remember growing up like the stuff that my parents used to give me was just like candy, let's be real, with just like lots of sugar or unhealthy chemicals, like there's no way my parents were like looking and making sure that all the stuff in it was good, but they listen, they were doing the best they could at the time. 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The way to a healthy scalp starts here. That's T H E O U AI.com code Stasi. So really excited that I get to talk about that now and like as more memories keep popping in my head, I feel like I'll just like randomly word vomit them out on this podcast. Do you, do you have a favorite memory you want to mention just off the top of your head, off the top of my head. It's like I go between like Castle, I, I, I, I, as, as much as I love the city. There was nothing like, like seeing Hartford and Messer Messer just started walking, but like mainly Hartford cause she fully understood. Like, our rooms, like our little villa area, like the second you walk outside, like we, we were by that big, what's it called? That round cylinder, what do you, what's that called in a castle tower that we'll call it the tower and for the first like week or two they lit the tower like this bright pink purple and we would just Tell Hartford like Rapunzels up there. And so we just like had this thing going where I'm just like we're walking out and it's like Hartford, that's Rapunzel's tower like we live in this castle and she went back home being like, I lived in an Italian castle telling her teachers that all like it like that's one of like, I feel like that's just going to be a core memory until like I die. Yeah, but like, there's so many in Oviedo that like I don't. They had like parade like remember when they were doing like these parades and yeah they had so many celebrations celebrations that felt like again medieval as f**k and everyone's in like old time clothing and I'm talking like way back medieval yeah like I'm not talking about like. You know, Marie Antoinette's time. I'm not, I'm talking go farther back like that's how they would dress in in their costume and everything, and it was remember they were carrying this like huge statue through the town. There were like legit probably 12 men with like The long wooden planks on their shoulders carrying this huge statue and it was some it was like a celebration of a saint, so they were walking it to the Duomo, which was also freaking gorgeous, the Duomo, you could see it from your villa. Yeah, it was just like a really magical f**king time. I don't know like what could be that. Anyway, so I feel like the rest of this podcast, I really just wanted to focus on some pop culture things because there's two main things going on right now. OK. Well, the main thing is like the whole Hailey Bieber of it all, and I have thoughts, we'll end on that. This wouldn't be my podcast if I didn't. If I, if I didn't touch on Megan, because what the events that have transpired over the last week are worrisome. That's one word for it. Um, they hurt my feelings, yeah. I, I don't like it. I wish a camera could have been in here when You saw the Instagram post. You wouldn't know, because your reaction that I even got later was just it was TV worthy. You, it would have been really f**king dark and weird. Like why is Stasi so affected? By a random stranger or just a stranger, someone she's never met, sending a handwritten letter to another person whom I, I call a friend, do you know what I mean? Yeah. It was like my heart sank into my butt. My blood like started not even boiling, getting ice cold. It was like my whole like body like tensed up and I'm like, if you for some reason haven't seen what's happened, I'm, I'm gonna tell you what's happened. So Amanda Hirsch from Not Skinny but Not Fat. Who I love, OK, and um, so like this isn't like shade against her. She can't help that she was the recipient. She didn't, yeah, she didn't technically do anything. Well, she posted a couple months ago when the With Love Megan trailer came out. She posted a video of herself being like, well, the caption was, you guys, like, I'm scared for Megan. And in the video, she was talking to the camera and she was just basically saying, You know, I've seen the trailer. This, I don't know how this is going to turn out for Megan, right, because everyone who hates on Megan, their argument is always like, she's inauthentic, she's fake. And so Amanda was basically like, I am, after seeing this trailer, I'm concerned that the same argument will, will. We'll fly. Right, but do we think she was authentically concerned? Oh, I don't think she cares either way about Meghan Markle. Yeah, like it was a sarcastic, funny, like Amanda's so funny. It was like a sarcastic quippy remark to the announcement, right? I, I'm no, whether it was supposed to be shady or not, no, it's not that it's a question of like genuine was she genuine. I think that those were her genuine genuine thoughts. Like, I don't think she was scared for her. No, I don't think that she was concerned for her welfare or like what people think of Megan or anything. I think she was saying just being like the same way you and I would talk about it, like, uh, this might not be the best luck, and she was just saying it, you know what I mean, being honest, I don't think she was it a story or was it a real? It was a real. It was I think it's it's still there. OK. And I, I commented on it and I was like, wait, no, I'm so excited. Like that's it. And then I remember being like, Is Amanda gonna think that I'm being a b***h because I was just like all I wrote was like, wait, no, I'm so excited. I like I'm just like shutting her down. And then I was like, I can't go back and edit it like Megan I like I can't go back. And um, so I defended, you know, yeah, I guess you do yes I do as I do and cut to last week, 5 days ago, 5 days ago, Amanda posts. No, like I'm being, I'm triggered all over again. Caption is Oh my Duchess, that's a good one. That is a good one. And it's a, first of all, it's a screenshot of her original comment or her original caption saying you guys, I'm scared for Megan. OK. On her own page. Then next photo is a handwritten letter with Megan's handwriting, the date, March 2025, and her what's it called, her stationery, her little M with a crown, which let's get into that in a second. Hold on, M crown. And she wrote, Dear Amanda, I heard you were feeling scared. Don't be exclamation. This is the fun part. Hyphen, let's enjoy it. As ever, Megan. Well I'm feeling these emotions all over again. You know, I'm just letting you have holding space for your emotions. OK. The I'm gonna be real with everyone. I'm angry. I'm, I'm angry. Because what this says to me. Sorry, Megan, but like I'm, I, I, I have to be authentic and real right now. Like what that says to me is that Her fans and followers and supporters are not as important as the haters. And that is like, So wild to me because Amanda Hirsch was not posting that out of just like, I'm so concerned for Megan as one of her biggest fans. That's what I mean, yeah, like I think she was concerned like you guys, Megan's really gonna get hit this time. Yeah, I think she was flagging it of like, oh, but it wasn't a genuine like I'm scared for her and and technically it was bad press for Megan. Like Amanda posting that is bad press for Megan, not good press. Like that's starting the conversation about. How whether she's inauthentic or not, you know, whether she's being fake or not like that post that Amanda did was not good for Megan, that was bad for Megan, right? And so for Megan to go and She's never done this to just like go and do a handwritten note and send it to someone. Who doesn't give a f**k, who like has this like big empire online of like talking about pop culture things. So what Amanda says does sway, yeah, it resonates, it resonates and it sways like how people think of things because it's what we're seeing and like she's so good at talking about pop culture and like that. So Megan, to me that letter was not like this is the fun part, let's enjoy it. You know, to me this letter was I need to try, like, first of all, Megan didn't come up with this, right? Someone else did. I was going to say how many conversations do you think were had from discovering it to notifying Megan to what do we do next to how do we get in contact with her, to what's the best route. There's no way Megan came up with this on her own. Like I have an idea, no way. Someone said to her like, you know what would actually be funny and like surprising to people. is if you actually wrote a handwritten letter and you're like, you don't have to write much, right? In fact, I'll just like come up with it real quick for you and like really just short to the point and if you send it to her because she will post it and then people can see that you're engaging in the conversation and so like you're funny, you don't take yourself too serious take yourself too seriously, so maybe you'll get some more people in your corner. So like this to me was just like playing chess, you know, like, like her trying to play chess. Like do you think it was a good move? No. Because when you start losing your number one fan. That's not, it's not a good move, right? And it's not that she's losing me because she's not. I'm like. It's, it's like what they say on the toast. Trust your faves. Just they always say that, you know, when like people that they really like, they f**k up and they're like, you know, I think we're just gonna have to trust our faves on this one. That's kind of how I feel. I'm like, I'm just gonna trust my faves. This was a blip, like, but you're hurt, but I'm hurt because I. I've been here for so long. I wrote you every day for a year. Yeah, that's literally me. I like when I went on my first podcast tour in 2019, you know, like I can't like I decorated the set. We still have it with a photo of Meghan Markle. Like she's, I've always just been like pumping her up, pumping her up, supporting, supporting, supporting like. And I've been there the whole time. Anytime it gets a little like, uh, this might have been the right this might not have been the right choice. I'm still here, right? Like I, I can still be critical, but like I'm still here. And if anyone was ever gonna get a handwritten note from Meghan Markle, I think everyone listening right now, or at least the people who aren't hate listening, right, you know, the people who are just genuinely listening to this podcast, everyone would be like, it's you. Yeah, I made you. You're the one who should be getting one. I think if anybody knows who you are, they know your affinity for Meghan Markle. You've made it very clear. It's like it, her name's next to yours in the dictionary. I don't know. I don't know why I thought you were gonna say like on her graves. Well, if you want to go that far, we could, but like it's, it's kind of crazy, and I've never been acknowledged. First I was like, listen, it's fine. I'm not getting the jam. I'm not an A-list celeb jam. We've never met each other. Like we don't know each other. I only lent her Hartford, but like we, it's fine, you know, I, I don't, it's OK. Like I, I know my place. I'm just a lowly podcaster, right? OK. She's not gonna be sending. Podcasters, the job. But then because Amanda Hirsch is my peer, right, friend and peer. I'm like, this doesn't work for me. Do you think it's because you need to like talk about her more in feed and like, you know, because Amanda's post, it existed for a little while before someone found it, right? It wasn't like a story or like, you know, through the podcast, obviously her name's in many of the titles, but It's a little harder to pin down. Um, I'm just trying to give her the benefit of the doubt by her, I mean her team for sure. Like I try and um justify it in my head too all the time, yeah, every day, all day I've been unable to parent ever since it happened. No, I'm kidding, um, I, no, I'm, but that's not my type of. Um, posting, right? I don't post like pop culture takes on my Instagram. Yeah. So that would be really f**king weird if I all of a sudden just started, like sometimes I will like sometimes like you have in the past. Yeah, like I, I mean, I posted like when I watched the first couple episodes, I posted when I watched their documentary, but like I don't go hard and I'm not like constantly doing it to where like I'm not a pop culture. Guru, right? What would you call it, you know what I mean? Uh, yeah, like, comment, well, you do commentate though on my podcast though, and like, you know, if I feel so passionate, if I feel passionately about something, I'll jump on my Instagram story or whatever, but like it's not nothing lives in feed. My infeed on my Instagram is for aesthetics only, right? You know, yeah, that's that and that's how I want to do my Instagram. I want to do my Instagram like Pinterest for sure. OK, so if Let's just say if a letter arrives next week from Megan, she has my heart forever. Oh, so she can come back from this. It's not a like, yeah, and listen, I'll get over it even when I don't get another letter, like I, when I don't get a letter, I will get over it and I'm still gonna be supportive. I mean, so you're not holding a grudge. It just, you know what it reminds me of, like, I'll never forget something you said to me a while ago when I was like, And I'm normally good at not like focusing on trolly comments. Like when I post something, I kind of like I see if somebody writes something mean and I'm like, OK, and like I keep scrolling, it doesn't bother me, but every now and then somebody will write something that just like really gets under my skin and I want to go and like comment back. And then one time you told me you're like, Don't focus on like, don't respond to like a hater. Like, if you're gonna take the time and the energy to respond, respond to the people that are like supportive of you, and I'm like, You're so f**king right, but like I didn't, you don't think of it that way when you're in it for sure, which is what like Megan's not thinking about it like that. She's not thinking about it. It's like, oh, I should probably be showing my supporters some more love instead of just like to somebody who was a hater, which she wasn't a hater hater, she wasn't like was, was. Was it helpful raising a red flag? Yeah, was it helpful, yeah, you know what I mean. So I don't think Megan's thinking about that, but because you said that to me, I'm like, oh, that's so annoying, yeah. And like, well, because this is how like follow your followers would feel if they're like leaving nice comments every time you post and then they see you only ever engage with the mean ones they're gonna be like, why am I gonna say, oh, Hartford looks so cute in this or oh I love this outfit. I hear you like I now I fully understand. I understand everything you were saying, but I couldn't understand it fully in that moment until I was one of its one of it. You have to touch the hot stove to feel the burn, yes, and so I'm just, you know. You know, today she released her shop mime. Yes, I saw that and I've already purchased a t-shirt. So like you have a shop. I do we tell everyone that because we haven't really announced it. No, I need to like get it all like. Like, done, yeah, it's, it's in its early stages, but everyone asked for links so much. We did make one. So we do. I have a shop. I just haven't promoted it, but it's up there if you want to buy some of the things, but we're gonna promote it now because Megan promoted her, so now it's cool, right? I think it was cool before. I've just been a little lazy. OK. You know, fair, yeah, because I don't like get dressed up every day and then I get uninspired and I'm just like I really don't, I just wear sweaters and comfy pants. I also realized us having had this for a little while now is that you wear a lot of stuff that's old or that's like your grandmother's or you've had for 7 years. Something, so a lot of this stuff we can't like, I know, and I'm also in my let's not buy s**t for the sake of buying s**t era, right? Like let's use what we already have. Yeah, like we don't just need to keep hoarding lots of stuff, right, but we could still do dupes. Because people want to get like the look, you know, I guess we'll figure it out. See this is what I mean. Every time we get to this conversation, I then get lazy and I'm like, I know it's overwhelming. I have to be, I don't know if laziness is the right word. I have to feel really inspired to like get something, but look how inspired you were. You literally clicked on her thing and bought a shirt, and she just announced it today because I'm always on the Hunt for like the best softest t-shirt. OK, so one of your followers is probably always on the hunt for a gray cashmere cardigan. You know what my followers should be on the hunt for the best, um, tank top, which I have found, and I'm wearing it right now. I now own like 55 like white ones and 5 black ones from Joe's jeans. Are we going to throw up the link when this comes out it's on there. Well, we're, we'll put it up again. I feel like I wear it all the time. I literally wear this. Either alone or under things. OK, almost every day of my life to the point where I'm like, people are going to think I only that I would just wear dirty clothes all the time, but no, I bought multiple so that I always have clean ones. I've never thought that. Um, thanks. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so still supporting Megan because I bought a t-shirt and still following her s**t and still like I want her to succeed. Yeah, but like that was not the move. What do you think Amanda thought when she received the letter? So I wonder if she like s**t her pants out of like, just like fear of like, Cause you know, it's like, it always sucks when you like are talking about something on your podcast, and then it gets back to that person, right? You know, like that's the worst. We've all been there. It like really is the worst. So like, I don't think she expected Megan to ever Like, do you think it arrived in an envelope with like the crown stationery on it or like that was inside of like a UPS or FedEx? It was, it was definitely inside a UPS or FedEx. There's no way that she just put it in an envelope, stuck a stamp on it and sent it off and hoped that it got there and the return address was definitely like her agent or something. I, yeah, for sure, not our house, definitely not, but it definitely came in. A bigger envelope. In fact, I think that Her team might have even talked to Amanda's team and like, hey, are you gonna be home from this time to this time, there's a package being sent for you. Do you think she got jammed? No, we would have seen it. She would have posted if she got jammed. OK. Did she get jam? I don't know. I don't know. I'm just thinking like. I'm just thinking of the packaging itself. Like, was it just the envelope with like little card in it or was there something more with it? And what more could there be other than gem? Yeah. It's a good point. Also, I just made this connection. You know, I love jam. I know you do. I, whenever I have eggs, I can't eat eggs without jam. Like I'm a jam girl and like my whole pregnancy with Messer, it was just jam, jam, jam, jam jam. Not me liking jam before Megan. I have thought of that before and I still didn't get any, right. That's kind of insane. So Megan, my advice to you, pay attention to your supporters. Pay attention more to your supporters. Yeah, like I saw she did like one thing before the show came out where she like went to New York, people were getting like tattoos. They already had tattoos. OK, yeah, and so like, but they were doing like a Private viewing of the show for her fans and she surprised them more of that, yeah, you know, more more of that. Taylor Swift used to like stalk her fans, the super fans and like send them a curated package of like s**t for them that was very personal. Just arrive on their doorstep. OK. This is back. This is way, way early on and that's like something that only like a young 20 something with a lot of energy and zero kids for sure, but like take a, take a dose of inspiration from that Megan and like do that right, send some flower sprinkles to people. It doesn't have to be jam for sure. It could be whatever for hemp seeds, yeah. I need to message Amanda about this. Yeah, I like to know more. I had DM'ed her because she like wrote something and then I commented and I was like, yeah, well, still no letter from Megan and then like a whole day later I also then realized I was like that was also really aggressive to say. She probably thinks you guys are in a fight. No, she probably does, but she's like, listen, you're, you're, it's not your fault. It's not your fault. You were the chosen one, right? You can't help it. But I'm just, you know, whatever. What did you think about her, um, green waffles? Oh, I also, before we get into the green waffles. The choice to have an M with a crown on top of it, uh-huh for her stationery, uh-huh. Why aren't more people talking about that? Can you expand? Well, first of all, that's something that I would have done. When I ages 16 to maybe 25, I was gonna say 6 years ago, like those, that's what I would have done an S with a crown on it for sure. It's chewy. And you are not, you don't want to be a royal anymore. So like, if this is just because of, because you're a duchess and like that's where it came from, the crown is because like you're a duchess. Then you, you got to stick with being a duchess, right? To me, like that was just like just do an M. Interesting. I don't, I don't know, my brain's still spiraling a little bit right now. Like, imagine if I had, if my stationery was an S with a crown on it, well. I mean, what Imagine it would be, yeah, it's just a little like gaudy, yeah. And Megan isn't gaudy, right? She's chic, she is chic. Everything about her outfits, her aesthetic, her house, everything is chic. So I'm like, this is an interesting choice to have a crown. Do you think that H has the same one and they just got matching? I don't know, maybe that is a royal family thing where all of their stationery has crowns on it. So like, if it is, she gets a big giant pass, but at the same time, right, but they're not working royals anymore. So like I would feel like if I, that would be like me. I know. That would be like my stationary, having, like, SU are like or like something having to do with or like the Bravo logo, do you know what I mean something that I'm no longer a part of, but like people know me from that would feel weird. That's true. Interesting, OK, like I just And then everyone being like, no one's handwriting looks like this. Yes, it does, motherf**kers, hers does because I've known this since I became a fan in 2017 or whenever. She used to do calligraphy for people's weddings. That's like how she's making money when she was going to auditions. Like she's done like famous people like, I feel like it was like Jimmy Kimmel's, she did like Jimmy Kimmel's wedding invitation. She's like a hardcore calligrapher, so that is her gorgeous, stunning, beautiful handwriting, right. And we shouldn't take that away from her. No, she needs to brag about that more. Yeah, that's something. Why was that not on the show? I don't know, because maybe she thinks that everyone already knows it. It's like, no, only she could actually teach. You can. Can you teach calligraphy through the TV? Well, I mean, as much as you can through like YouTube or whatever, but you could do some like basics and inspire people to go learn it. Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe season 2, which is coming. Yeah, thank God. I mean, I love the show. I've watched the episodes like a bunch of times over. Like it's so soothing and I love her. Do you think that she didn't send you a handwritten note because you don't call her Megan Sussex? I don't think she pays attention to me, and that's the problem. Touche. That's the whole problem. The green waffles? Everyone needs to calm the f**k down. I know that that got a little explosive. That was insane. Yeah. Now, if anyone doesn't know what I'm referencing now, she made green waffles and put them on her story for Saint Patrick's Day, and people were dissecting the grooves in the waffle, saying this is not consistent with the waffle maker that you just showed in the background or whatever and therefore you are a fraud. That's a stretch. It's just, it's don't be so hard on everyone. And like even if they are fake waffles, who gives a, she's just put it like that point was like the face she did on it with the whipped cream and the blueberries and whatever. It wasn't the waffle itself, whatever. I just like people are so annoying. I mean, I'm part of the problem. Listen to me talking forever about this f**king s**t like I am annoying. I'm annoying, but at least I'm a self-aware. Annoying person. Did you see the one she just did this weekend with her best friend in her kitchen, the the banana split? Yeah, it looks like a disgusting, healthy. Oh, see, I thought you would actually like it because it has jam on it. No, I don't say the word banana split and then. That s**t. I'm sorry. Like, if, if you're gonna show me a banana split, that better be covered in chocolate syrup and whipped cream and ice cream and nuts and cherry maraschino, whatever they're called one's like that's what I wanna see that. Negative 50 calorie meal. No, you can't call it a meal. It was literally just some banana with some jam and I think a nut or two, yeah, granola and like berries. That's not a meal. That's not food. You're right. That's food for her chicken. Like that's you can't live off of that. I just like, no, um, but see this is what like I love about her. But see, I saw it and I was like that looks good. I might try it, really. I was just like, see, this is so nothing. I cannot relate to this, but like I like not being able to relate to it, you know, yeah, and maybe that's why I haven't gotten a letter because she knows the second she makes contact. So it's over, it's over. It's like, you know, yeah. Hm. Then we become friends. Then we braid each other's hair, and then I start making, then she banana splits in our banana split. Yeah, she invites you to her kitchen to make something like weird and healthy. I think I deserve to be on her show. What would you like, what would you do on her show if you were a guest? Oh, would you like to cook? I'm definitely a Mindy Kaling, like I know nothing, Snow. Like literally I know nothing. You can teach me something. I can engage in conversation that still makes sense to me when it becomes about kids, and I would have been perfect for the birthday party, the kids' birthday party, because I love throwing a kid's birthday party. So like that would have been in my wheelhouse. She wanted to do um some sort of like c**ktail themed episode or like theming a dinner party or not even a dinner party, it's like seeing a like a show or movie night with your friends. That's fun or with like tasty treats that are cute and themed and c**ktails like I could do something like that. I love a theme and I love TV. See, my brain went to like macaroni and cheese, like she could teach you how. Make like a healthy mac and cheese for the kids. Your face, I don't want, I don't want it. I don't care to know, but like you know how to make mac and cheese, so it's something you could talk about. True. Maybe she puts bread crumbs on top and like makes it yummy, but I would never, I wouldn't. I could learn it and I still wouldn't. OK. I, I, if I'm going to talk about something I'm passionate about, I'm not passionate about mac and cheese. I just can make it from the box. I'm passionate about themes. You could teach her how to make goat cheese balls. She could get me there with go she's balls. She's giving her ideas, giving her ideas so she knows how to write up an outline. Season two, we could do a horror themed episode Halloween, yeah. Decorating for Halloween or Christmas the authentic way, correct, but a lot of people can do Christmas. Not everyone can do Halloween the way I can. True. OK. Halloween episode. Call me, maybe that timing will actually work immediately. Call me. If you want the fastest working GLP one for half of the list price, Roe has got you, OK? 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I still want to get into the Hailey Bieber of it all, but that we, we don't have enough time to like really go in. So is that just like giving everyone blue balls? Yeah, I think you should glaze. Just I donuts, like, what do you mean? Just like give a little taste of it because I don't know everything as deeply as you do anyway. OK, so this is what's happening on the web, right, on social media, on TikTok, everywhere, what the peeps are talking about, which is amongst the land, so funny because we were both independently, I was sent this and then you said you like deep dive. The night before, so like we both independently saw this. Well, I saw this years ago, OK, and I feel like I heard rumblings years ago, probably because of me because I randomly fell on a TikTok hole that was about how Hailey Bieber was a child stalker. Of Justin Bieber, like his number one fan, and would stalk him and like show up to like his hotel and out of and whatever and just in how she like copy Selena Gomez, whatever. I'm not saying I agree with this. I'm saying I fell down a TikTok hole and watched all the videos and I'm like this is a compelling argument, but you can make a compelling argument. for almost anything when you're just showing the videos that you want to clip, yeah, and like you never know the timing of the things and whatever, but it never like took off the way it is right now. So like now it's like so viral there's a seven part TikTok series. Oh my. That deep dives into, again, this is not my opinion, this is just what the people that are making the TikToks are about, right, that she was like Justin Bieber's one of the biggest fans when she was a kid, and she used her dad's connections to literally like stalk him. She would like message his fans, like his, the ones that like I saw that to find out where he would be so then and what hotel he was staying at, so that she would always just like happen to be there, whether hanging out in the restaurant or whatever and like it there's so much. I'm telling you 7 part series. There's so much more because there it also goes into how she copies Selena. In tattoos. Oh, that one's a hard one for me to argue. It is a hard one because Selena has a G tattoo with a star in the script font right behind her ear for her little sister for her, her little sister or something, and Haley got the exact same one. Like a few months later. That's kind of crazy. It's crazy, you know, like that's, but like to me that's like to me when I think of like, OK, so she stalked Justin Bieber, reached out to the fan accounts and like showed up. That's just manifesting and winning. It it's being a fan like, yeah, some people can say it's like crossing the line, but it's like she was genuinely a fan of him and so a lot of the things that I saw I was like, It's sort of situational and like her dad is a celebrity, so of course she's gonna use that leverage to like be in the same room. What's wrong with a fan marrying the person that was on their a poster in their room? I feel like that happens. Yeah, yeah, it does. So like what's wrong with that? Like the fact that she stalked him, that's just being passionate and efficient, sure, you know, and getting what you want, but the tattoo is the tattoo is where I'm like. Oh, and then they're like, you see all of these montagey clips of like Justin Bieber being mean to her and all that stuff and that like he apparently called Selena Gomez 23 times the day of their wedding that just like, but like who, who knew that? Who knows that like I don't know what's true and what's not, but it's gotten so bad that like to me Hailey Bieber has been like um Like an industry darling and like an internet darling, like she can kind of, I felt like she could kind of do no wrong for a really long time. I felt that way about Blake Lively though too. I'm telling you, the, the second that you're doing well and everyone likes you, yeah, you're, you're gonna have some sort of fall from grace. I don't feel like I thought she was an industry darling like that until more recently, until her wedding, until road, until she had this baby, like what I mean, until, well, her wedding was before I even got engaged. It was like right when I got engaged. So it was a long time ago, but like before that, I remember thinking, oh, she's trying really hard. Like she's an epo baby who's trying really hard and like she's really pretty. She's with all the people, whatever, but she didn't like stand out to me until really it was like the wedding, the brand and the baby. I agree with, I agree that like the tides changed when she married Justin Bieber. Yeah, like I I do agree with that. However, that was a long time ago. Right and it's so it's weird that all this stuff is coming out. Well, he simultaneously, there's all these rumors that his mental health is like hardcore declining and like how did she feel that she has this new baby, her husband's losing it or if he's not losing it, people think he is, and all these rumors piled on top of it like she knows that people are talking about it right now. Oh no, yeah, because she's already put out or someone on her team's put out a statement being like she's looking into legal action against. Trolls against online people like that's what it said, which I think is That What? How are you going to do that? It's like, it's like slander or whatever. But like, if it's impacting her business or her life, where do you draw the line of free speech? Good question. Where's the line? Yeah, I don't know, you know, and like people are just putting montages and clips together of like whatever they want and I'm happy that I've also gotten on the journey of TikTok of like Pro Haley and Justin, so like I, I'm also now seeing videos of people putting together clips of them being so loving, of like him being so loving to her. That's the other thing is like you can't, she didn't hoodwink hoodwink him into like being with her. He had to like her too, yes, right? Correct. I know it was so fast. Also if someone decided to look at me and Bo's life in clips and cherry pick the bad ones. You could make a montage that looked like he hated me, right? Easy, like easy. You could also make a montage that looked like no couple will ever beat us. Like we're the, we're it at like, you know what I mean, we're who you want to be. You can edit things like. However you want these people are just getting the clips of the public things. You can't see behind closed doors. You don't know, like they've been together for years. Yeah, and I also forgot about the whole like copying off of Selena's cooking show and saying the exact same things like this is my house, she's gonna announce it. Yeah, but then in my brain I go to like, OK, when you have a big production, you're given a script and you have someone else there saying what to say and like at what point is it the fault of hers? Like, yeah, the similarity suck, but did she really go. Watch it in her brain, she was like, I have to be Selena. I have to wear her skin. Like, let me say this exact thing. I think sometimes though, like I've noticed that like I, when I get around either around a certain person a lot or like I see a lot of their content, I start like taking that in and it's almost like it becomes a part of me like. It's kind of like when you're around people like your significant other and you start talking like them or using words that they use. So what if she is just so obsessed with Selena that she watches so much of Selena's content that like she's just becoming Selena, she doesn't mean to. She doesn't mean to, and it's innocent, then that's the most intense case of that that I've ever seen. Yeah, the tattoo will get me every time. Like, to me that's like the smoking gun, but I am. I stand with Haley. I do too. I stand with Haley. I feel bad and I feel like Selena and Haley have shown in their little Instagram ways like supporting each other and like they get along. Like I don't think there's any animosity. I don't think like I think they're just living their lives, but the whole reason this started this time around, it's because Hayley, in which she has like a habit of doing this, of acts of liking something that's shady to Selena. Oh, and so this time, this was like last week or whatever, she liked a TikTok of someone who was doing a TikTok about Selena and and Benny Benny, and that was like not a good one. And so it said like Hailey Bieber liked your video and so everyone was like, what the f**k again like why, why is Hailey so shady liking these negative videos. My brain the first couple of times when Haley Bieber was liking me in videos was like sometimes you accidentally like something that you don't mean to, and that's also one of my worst fears. It's happened to me before and I'm like, great. And now when I unliked it, they're still gonna get the notification that I liked it, so I'm f**ked anyway. Then they're gonna say I went back to unlike it. I'm just, I should just stay off my phone, but just stay off my channel so if you watch the first two seconds of something, she might be like, Oh, this is about Selena like and like not realize that it's negative. That's not responsible in your social media practices, but I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt, or she is shady, or she's shady, aren't we all? Aren't we all not to that, but, but not like that doesn't everyone just like have someone in their life for sure, but you don't go and like and like s**t about that, you know, everyone has a different way of dealing with their f**king shady, but she knows she would know that that would trigger everything. She's lived it for the last 10 years. Yeah, I'm just like I. She's verified, people get the notification, like, she's not that stupid. No, I think she's a genius and I think she's the ultimate manifester. I mean, yeah, look at her life. Like, if I've, if there was ever a manifester, and I don't care what her human design actually is, but if there ever one was one, it is her, right? And like she put in the work, she put it, she did. I'm sorry, like success looks different for everyone, and the journey to success looks different for everyone. Wait, I saw yesterday, I was gonna tell you this off air, but I'll just tell you now because I think people will like it. There's a new chat GPT. Thing that you can do. So you write on a Word doc, just everything that you want, future desires, like everything you're going to do, you're going to have, you're going to be like reach for the stars, huge, huge goals, and then you go to chat GBT and you say, what would a day in the life look like of my future self based on this and you paste it in and it gives you a day in the life, and you like visualize it and you manifest it and then you say, write a daily schedule for me to follow to allow me to achieve this life. And it literally will give you like the layout of what to do to get what you want. Is it chat GBP chat GP as in Paul, yep. Just try it. I'm gonna try it. No, I'd like to see you try it, and I'd like to see what yours what pops up. It's just so scary how like you've shown me some things now from chat JPT that I'm like. What? I've written mind blown. I've written like professional letters with chat GPT. I've like create a brainstorm. I've done lists and like the key is that you ask it a question, you get its answer, and then you have to like edit it again. You have to touch it again to like make it your own, but it's, it's really good at like giving you a jumping off point. Now is this chat GP? T.com I think it's like, or is it it's like open source AI or something like what is it called if people want it? I mean like I want to download it later. What is it called? You just, I just go online and show me what you type in. Oh, it's it's openAI.com. OpenAI.com. Yeah. And do you need to like a login? Oh, it's chat GPT.com. I have a login. So I can save my searches because sometimes I want to come back to them. Yeah, and then what can I help with? They can analyze data. Oh, the other day, someone sent me a screenshot of all these words and I was like, can you please transcribe this? So I can copy it and like not have to retype it myself. It did that. I just like think that If I start this chat GPT journey. I won't be able to stop. No, you'll love it. I, I know, which is to me scary. Why? Because Then you stop like. Exercising your own brain, right? Like we're gonna stop being creative. We're gonna stop coming up with our own ideas because some of the things that you've shown me for me are 10 times better ideas than I could have thought you could have thought of, and that hurts. It hurts just as much as not receiving a letter. Have you ever thought that we're just like we have these limitations in our brain and like chat GPT doesn't. So when you ask it the right, the thing too is you have to ask it the right questions. You can't just like ask it nothing. You have your intelligence has to go into it, OK, but I think I'm gonna if I start, I don't think I'll be able to stop. Well, and it's fun and it takes some of the lift off like when you're sitting there overwhelmed like with Shop my like, oh, and then I'm gonna do this and that. We could literally go to Chat GPT and be like, What should Stasi Shop my look like? And I'm sure it would give us a detailed plan. You know how we have Stasi podcast recording day, then the good, the bad, the baby recording day. Should we also have a chat GPT weekly day? Yes. Yes, we could do chat GPT we can brainstorm, we can do content. I mean, brainstorming is so fun, but to me, chat chat GPT takes Does the brainstorming for you and the bit like brainstorming sessions live for it. It's just the launching off point or it's like when we do half the brainstorm, then we cha GPT and like expand it. Is there another word for brainstorm? Ask chat GPT brain dump? Well, meaning like cause we only ever use the word brainstorm and I just think that there needs to be some more synonyms for brainstorm. Let's see what Google says, which Google's all AI anyway now. Chat GPT see, really, yeah, there is it. There isn't. What is a better word for? Oh, analyze, conceive, conceptualize, create, invent, analyze session, ponder, think ponder session. No, you say brainstorm like brainstorm. I know. I just wish there was another fun one. Anyway, that is all the time we have for today. Um, fun funsies. I hope everyone is having a wonderful week. Uh, cool, thanks for being here, of course, bye bye. Pluto TV has all the shows and movies you love streaming for free. That means laughter is free with gut-busting comedies like The Neighborhood, Boomerang, and Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Ber Mystery is free with countless cases to crack from Criminal minds, Tracker, and Matlock. 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