Mike Birbiglia + Michael Biehn (Carolla Classics)

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Is fired. Welcome to the s**t show. Things are going to get weird, weird. It's your fave billion kilowatt hours. And you're listening to barely famous f**kers. All right, everyone, we have, Scooter, I was going to say, Oh yeah, here we go. Hi guys today. And I know that you guys think that we're dating and all kinds of stuff, so we're about to debunk all of the myth. Let's do it. Let's do it. I want to touch on before we get too deep into this. Who you are and what your background is. So we met in college. You and you were mean to me wasn't mean you actually had, you know, to me. You've never approached me when I mean, you say you wanted to talk to me and it's that you want to be my friend, but you never, you know, I want it to be your friend. I knew who you were, right? And my friend. I didn't know that my friends were friends with you. Right? So naturally, and I did this when my friends were talking to you around me, it was like, Oh, we can all be friends. Like, I didn't know anyone in college, so it was weird for me. And then the college graduation rehearsal? Yeah. So we were at college graduation rehearsal, and my friend Danielle, who you guys have heard on coffee combos, was already knew you. So she's we're all graduate nurses from here. Yeah, you've known her for a long time. So she starts talking to Keith and I like know of him. So I thought I was going to be a part of this conversation and I said, Somebody's staring right at me. On ignored me. But we all graduated in 2017, and you thought, like, literally in the robot. Right, right. Oh, that sounds odd. And then we didn't really associate with each other Nazis until like months and months later when you needed security and everything. Right, right, right. So you have as you have your security business, of course. So when I moved to Middletown, where you live, you lived with your mom. Right? I said, Hey, do you know anyone that cleans? It's like, I need someone to help me like clean the house. Mom does go and hold on. My mom owns a business, so I, she comes over and then now I'm like, best friends with your mom. How weird for you. Oh, not at all. Because I love it. I love your mom so much and people are like, Is this like? That was actually one of the questions I had already wrote that down like, is it weird for you? But other people also want to know what the dynamic is because I met you first. Right? But I'm closer to your mom. I'm gonna tell. Say there's me and mom. You know how my mom is? She's outgoing and you talk to anybody and be cool with anybody. Me and my mom really grew up with each other. Right? All my friends are tight with my mom. I'm cool with my mom's friends. And, you know, they're like my aunts and uncles. Exactly. That's all it is, right? So you know it. It's not weird at all. It's just your another part of our family. It's crazy because I love like, I call your grandma. No, no, no. It's like my kids. I up. So your kids go in there. So I it's just I. It's not weird for me, but I could see how it could maybe be weird for you because I knew you first. Yeah, I mean, that's I guess that's just people's opinions on how or how people are. Also, people don't know, don't know how to her son. Exactly. So and then we go out somewhere somehow. I mean, they give me the bill always, but that you're her me exactly all the time, all the time. And I really do. I think because she was a young mom, she was a teenager. You're the same age. But she could literally be my mom, but one of my best friends, right? So it's just like, that's what I'm saying. She's she is my best friend, you know? So and that's why we're so close, because we're close. Exactly. So. So no boy was, you know, all of that being said, you knew me in college. You also knew one of my baby fathers in college. I did. I actually played on the basketball team with animals like, Oh, it was cool. I mean, we actually went to like the sister high school of hers as well. So we knew of each other from, you know, playing ball and just being socially out and all that. Right? But you know, I honestly mind you, we didn't meet until after college and when I knew him, but you knew each other. Right, right. Exactly. So did y'all ever like exchange words while you played ball together? Like, were you? Did you? Were you friendly? Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, it was cool. It was cool. Like, you would tap each other up and you saw each other, but that was the extent of it. Yeah, that's what. Yeah, yeah, it was the extent of it. Correct? The extent of it. Okay. So what was what is that like now? Because we became friends after college? So then naturally. Good for you. Kind of were around him because sometimes. Right, right. Right? Yeah, definitely. You know, it wasn't nothing weird. It's just, Ah, I know, you know, I know I'm from where I know her from and this is what's going on, and I'm not going to change our actor, you know? Well, you know what's going on just because what you got going on also is what it is. For you, when maybe you didn't know this, but he used to accuse me of like sleeping with you. Oh my. Now it's a little awkward, but know I didn't know that, to be honest. Yeah, that was something I dealt with all the time. And. At the time, you know, the cruelty was too hard. That's why I'm like, I'm just sitting here and looking at you, huh? That's weird, because your loyalty was to him, stick with him. We're friends like our female friends. You have no friends, right? Damn, I never knew that. And but we had conversations about why we're not too good. Correct. Correct me and him. Correct? OK, we are wondering, what are your thoughts on that? People think that we're dating. People think we're f**king people think that we are. Well, yeah, when they see, you know, a good looking guy, a good looking woman being friends, you know what I mean? It may be being close or socializing all the time. They think, you know, everybody assumes something like that. But I think men more so think that women cannot have platonic friendships. You know, men have a harder time. I was just about to say because they're not comfortable. I don't think that the ones that aren't comfortable with you got some sort of something else you got. So whatever I was about to say, I think that, you know, I'm not going to tell you anything for what the third baby that had an issue with it because he couldn't be friends with women without without having sexual relations with so. But so some men are like that, some more. And fortunately, I'm not, you know, it was like I would ever like if I got, I don't know. I'm just trying to think of a scenario like if I needed a place to crash and I went to your house like they would feel like you would try to have sex. You seem, you know, I was going to go, Oh, I see you're getting out. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You know, I'm a gentleman. My mom who raised me correct. You're right. You're right. You're right. Oh, OK. So what was your first impression of me when we met? I'm scared. You are. Well, you are. So the first it will. You know, I've been watching, you know, for years, the whole intake. Just everybody's intake on you is incorrect because I thought you were going to be a b***h. And I know and I and everybody has asked me, like, you know, she's not a b***h. She's not an a*s. I'm like, She can be. She should we? We all we you can be a b***h. I going to be a dickhead, you know what I mean? So whatever, but not like I said, I thought that was, how are you going to be? Because I I only would only say that, though, because I remember walking past you only like twice in the TV and the media building, and I was going to say something to you because, you know, I'll talk to anybody when I was like, Well, I'm like, little f**ker. You look back on it. I know that now, and I want everybody to realize, like, she's not like that, like she is a great person. And I going to say, Well, she can be a b***h, but we all care. Exactly. But you're my first impression was that you would be an a*****e. And just because what you know, media or whatever people, but you when I actually started talking, I'm like, Damn, she's actually cooler. She's Oh, she's a great person. Like, she's actually giving a generous, loving person like, you really take care, people and I. And that's why that's one reason why the f**k would you and I love you to death for that. Thank you. Oh, for sure. Like what is something that people don't know about me? But you just answered that? What is the worst thing about being friends with me? He smiles this smile. Oh my, oh, let me think how to say this the worst thing? I'm nervous. No, it's not really bad, it's just like, don't you don't kill s**t list slurs like don't rub her the wrong way because she will make you regret it. Like, I'm so loyal to you are and to a fault. And so when someone that I feel like I've been so loyal to like vision, wrong? Yeah. Like causes you that to somebody else. I don't know. I don't. I don't ever see that coming out of you. So. And you know, I know a lot of situations you've been through or and all that, right? And yeah, you are. You're a great person, but people do you wrong and because you're so f**king loyal. But I'm also and I hate confrontation. Do you and you hate it? People think, Well, I'm full of drama, and I really I actually don't like it. It's not something that when you get involved. This is my what my take. Yeah. When you get involved in conversation and s**t that makes you even more mad or sad and a f**king bilge, you know, builds your anger up more. Right? But I think that's fair. But that's but that's everybody. So it's like I said, don't get on your bad side and don't, you know, wrong the wrong way. Maybe calm down a little bit. Yeah, I was. So what do you say to people who compare you to Chris or think that I use you to make him like a man? I don't. That never crossed my mind. I see trolls say stuff like that. And like, there was a post that you had sent me and it was like a troll page that posted a re posted a picture of you and I, and it was like Bootleg bootleg Chris. And I was like, Yo yo yo. Like what? The funny thing is like, the only reason they say that is because of revelation. We have beards. They don't know me. Let's be real. You're like a foot taller. I mean that you actually have what? Yeah. I just laugh at it because it's like, if you all really knew what was going on, you know, I mean, you realize, Oh s**t, this is nothing like, you know him at all. Yeah, I mean, I don't have no care for, you know, I mean, it's not really any of my business, but it's like when I get compared because I'm cool with you, it's like little we all know, right? World. Hey, different names, different knowing the difference. What do you what is your perspective on like me and my baby daddy drama? Because I think you've met all of them, right? Maybe not Joe. I've not met Joe. OK, so you know the you know. Correct, Chris, you've been around both of them. Yeah. So I think that people love to villainize me and me because I'm the common denominator. What is your take on that? I know you're going to be real about it. So if I have this, you're going to say it. So what is your take on it? Did you fell in love with three different men and you excuse me? I would say to Oh one, I think I was like 17, you know, right? No, no, no. I get I. Trust me, I get to show an ex of mine, which is really weird. And I'll think about like when we were so like, I mean, like an experience of life. Yeah, like, I don't know. I guess we just have we're related to the same kid, right? But I don't really consider him an ex because it was maybe like a year together, right during that time. Got pregnant, right? So. Right. Exactly like this was after less than a year of being together. And so and then we broke up very quickly. So I just don't I would say that that was more so like. Mommy and daddy issues, and then I I wouldn't say I fell in love with him. I get, I know I get, I get it. Like, it was just circumstances, but in the nicest way possible, I don't mean any disrespect. Yeah. Not at all. So like, what are you? You've seen s**t with me and Harvey. You've seen s**t with me and Chris you've been here with. Yeah, some years. Yeah, but. You know, we all have different things going on in our lives that, you know, change things in, you know, just different things or will cause things to adjust to different manners. You do your damn thing, you take care of what you got to take care of. Some of you baby fathers, do you know their job to the utmost the highest level? And I love that, and that's why I respect the ones that I respect. And you know what I mean? I would keep a relationship with who I keep a relationship with. But like I say, like he was just, you know, three different times that, you know, it's life. So you don't think that. I just say s**t to say about. No, no, I don't not at all. You're you're a realist. That's what you're you're you're a realist on your realist on anything. When it comes to your kids and your life, you're going to put your foot down no matter what. And seeing your you're a man so you can understand it better from a man's perspective. But just when you're around me, you remember who I was raised by. So I see all all the all perspectives, right? You know, my father wasn't always there. My mom was there since day one and still there. You know what I mean? I see that in you. And I, you know, like I say, we kind of have some of the same well that we've been through some of the same s**t since. I mean, yeah, way back and Creed are kind of where what I know about your son, Joe is like literally their dad is is here and he's around sometimes. And boy. But it's not how it should be. It's not how your mom was there for you. And I'm there. Exactly, you know, you know what I'm doing. So being there some of the time, but that immediate prayer that that immediate gave me that right there, that first contact you mean person when you wake up. Let me ask you this as an adult, now you're twenty seven, you're. Do you feel like you would have been better off your dad, just not being around versus in and out when he felt like it or how he felt like it? You know, it's crazy to say that because I always used to think, like, you know what, if you were just going to be in and out or half assed, you just see you. But. I realize that every child everybody needs whatever it's a parent in their life, right? And the fact that. You said he was not even 15 minutes away from me all my life. And, you know, I didn't see him all the time. But. It would it would it would been better if he was gone. Because now I'm old. I haven't needed them, you know what I mean, and so it's like, Oh, what's up, man, we're cool. So it's like, cool to have that relationship now. And, you know, really good. We can connect with anything because, like I said, you don't need them for nothing. But it probably would have been because I wouldn't have that, that sense of my mind to, you know, Oh my, I'm going to see him tomorrow, but I don't see him for three years or two months. How do you go years without seeing him before them right now? Well, my mom and dad split. I was about eight. And first, it was I would see him a lot, and he would I wouldn't see him or I just talk to him. And as a. Like I said, he's only 10 to have any advice for me going through the same thing with Lux and Creed. Like what is it like because I have gone through therapy for this? I have, you know, and I've never said, I think I need to go to therapy for Do you absolutely should? Definitely. And I say this all the time, like people don't realize going to therapy is not just talking to someone like they're going to teach you how to handle things, how to cope with things, and you want to heal from your traumas or pass them down. But I don't want my kids to suffer from, you know, we got to break the cycle. We've got to break the cycle. As in know, that's that's the main thing is, I don't have kids right now because. I want to be the best father, the best person, know what I mean. And, you know, I got my s**t together, but it's like, if I don't, you know, do or if I'm not where I want to be or I know the mindset, I want to give them all of the things I want to give my kids and say, I'm not going to, you know, I honestly don't think people should do that. Like, you just want to have kids, just to have kids. It's like, it's like not an accessory. It's not real. It's a real life. It's another person. It ain't a chia pet. Absolutely mother. Not plants that you can just regrow. Like, that's not a thing. So shout out to Carl's house when it's about my own greenhouse, literally. Hey, guys, it's me from Vivendi kind of thrive in and me and I just build a team for therapy every week. It's so hard to talk to people about their relationships. Like you said, if someone's in love, it literally doesn't matter what you say to them, like it has to be them to decide to leave. It doesn't matter what anybody says who it is. So follow rate and review vibe and and kind of driving every Monday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. I think I've really struggled with because my mom kind of went through a situation and I resented her, my whole childhood was like, How dare you keep me from keep my dad from me? And I felt like I had this unrealistic, unrealistic expectation in my mind that he was going to get his s**t together and come save me from my situation. But I think that now you kept thinking, you just want, I want my baby back. But, you know, like how to get the both of us, right? But as a parent, now I look back and I understand that my mom was trying to keep me from the inconsistency, the disappointment and all of that work. And so on one hand, one, you know, I wanted to make that decision for myself. On the other hand, my mom, despite her own s**t, was trying to help me. And I look back now and I'm like, Wow, like, I almost respect her more for keeping my dad from me because she knew what was situation. We will be, you know, she had her own s**t going on. He probably had some s**t that would be worse or good. Unfortunately, my dad was everything that my mom said he is. And I think that's probably like the realest my mom has ever been right. And as an adult, I've gone through therapy about, you know, the whole Kris thing because I don't think that he does everything that he should and can do. I think he does the bare minimum of the bare minimum. And I know what that is like. So and I and I do. So what is your advice to other maybe moms going through this or like kids? It's not your fault. This is true. Number one. It's not your fault. Deal with what is there and what is true and what is, you know, like don't dwell on don't you can't dwell on the past, but you really shouldn't dwell on the past or anything but can't dwell on or don't assume that you know that parent or that whoever is going to come back or you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. But just realize that like if, if, if you realize it's a negative situation that's causing more things to be negative or go down spiral down path, then leave us alone. And I was going to say that because it took me many years to realize and stop stressing and realize or stop stressing and worrying about other things. Other people's actions that I can't control, right, like your dad's behavior was more a reflection of that, and I had none. And what a lot of kids in, you know, a lot of kids will think, Oh, s**t, like, he's not around because me like, what? What did I do that all the time? Trolls tell me that your parents can't even let me go, and it's not your fault. It's it's it's very f**ked up. Is this the type of person? I mean, it's not like I said, it's not your fault. Like, you've got to always remember that it's not your fault and you can break the cycle change, you know, change whatever you want going in your life and move and move human progress forward past past it. It's a little bit it's hard as hell. It's not easy. No. And it's either for the parents, either. Like, people think this is fun for me to think that I want to be dramatic, that I keep Chris from his kids. But it's like, No, I'm I'm tired of trying. You're trying to do, you're tired of dealing with the bulls**t. Yeah. When what is you shouldn't you shouldn't deal with it. The kids shouldn't deal with it. Well, I think it's harder for it will be harder for the kids and creeps. I look at their brothers and they're like, Oh, our brothers go to their dads 50 percent of the time. Yeah. So when they say, Well, I've always I've always thought that like, you know, what do what do the boys think differently? Lux will be like, Am I going to my dad too? And I'm like, I've been around with us. No, right? Like, you've seen it. But I think also he has like, you're a male figure in his life. You know, Malik's, what a male figure in his life sees what hobby does for Lincoln and what it's like there. But he knows who his dad is. Damn right. Yeah, I've had like, it pains me because I'm like Joe moved states for his child, moved states like, Let that sink in. Right? Moved to states. And Chris can't even move an hour closer. I moved closer. He still couldn't do it, so I moved back. He moved back. So there's such a wish myself. Exactly. Make your situation easier and back to what was comfortable for you. So why can't him and his family move closer, especially because his his new child is not of school age yet work? So, you know, you know what I'm saying, and I know that that would be a way for my guest. Their support system, right? But must mean half way basically is not, you know, you're not trying to oh, you need to move far away just because you have two kids here and you have one up there or whatever. But it's like you just meet in the middle. And it would be a better situation if all if it was another kid. So it's all three of his kids are closer or real close. And then, you know, it would be easier on all, y'all, because he has four days a month with Lux and I think six with Creed, because Creed is not in school. Mm hmm. And he probably they probably see their new brother. Half of that is actually really sad for me, and I was going to ask you about for. Me growing up, not knowing my dad, I met him one time. I didn't get to know my sister. And I remember I remember I mean, it was really hard for me to connect with her because it's like, who was a stranger? Yeah, I mean, like we grew up in like night and day. She grew up in Texas. I grew up in, you know, the country of Pennsylvania, you know? And I mean, country like farms. Yeah, it's a country of like like Moon. So I don't want to say horse and buggies, literally. I don't want to see Lux and Creed be like, Oh, that's my brother. But not no. But not knowing because family is. Obviously, I actually I see that a lot. I see that a lot. I actually know people that know this. But my brother? Yup. And that's crazy to me. I don't think I don't think your boy is. I don't think they would, you know, grow up like that or a thing like that because you're so cute. They seem like two days out of the month, right? They're not getting the same. The same. Well, he's also a little baby, too. So it's like. But that's where it starts. Yes. I don't want to start when it's, you know, they're all in high school and they're all about to go to college. What they're going to do. You know? Well, yeah. Oh, I know him. That's that's my brother. Yeah. Wait, what what? Oh, I see it all the time because I think one has just his last name. One has both of his last name like mine and his and then Lux. That's my last name. Oh, they're not all matching. Oh yeah. So that would be kind of. Yeah, it'll be different. Did you ever want to change your last name? To be honest, oh, no, no, no. I'm a Wilson throwing thorough OK, but my mannerisms, my voice. Also, I know the answer to this for our listeners. Does your dad also have a deep voice? Yes, my dad's voice is deeper than mine, but mine is louder. Your mom, Lord, was telling me that when you were a baby, you used to cry in that voice. I never believed it so that I would have been. When she told me I was like, I would have thought something was wrong. Oh, we know, we know you all, my god, we've got to get it checked. I. We got to get him checked out. Well, yeah, the divorce runs in my family. I get asked every single day. I actually walked up on somebody the story yesterday and scared the s**t out of me, and she was, Oh my god, I didn't know you there. I'm like, You were standing right next to me. Yeah, no, I would if you came up to me that if she was like, Is that the voice of Jesus? You're like, Yeah, I look like you. Come on, you're so funny. So, OK. And the next question I have is on here. It's about to get a little juicy. Let's do it. Have you ever considered a relationship with me? Oh, you have. There's been times I would stop to you. The same bulls**t that we've been talking about baby daddies life, you're like, don't yeah, I don't just mean just because, you know, you know, I don't take disrespect lightly. I don't take, you know what I mean? You know how I care myself. So if you know me being involved with you, I'm involved with the kids out of none of it, you know what I mean? And none of that. I don't like negativity. I like my peace. Yeah. So, you know, just think about this sometimes. Have you ever dated anyone with kids? Sleeping with them doesn't count. Yeah, it's sleeping no day, like, no, hell no. I have a hard time, but I, you know, I love kids and I would. I say I'm great with kids and I have no problem with that. I just, you know, really never. I personally couldn't date someone that has children because I know what comes with it. The same reason that you away. So it's so weird to me. It's just like in certain situations, what's going on. Like how, you know, there's some baby moms and maybe does have great relationship and they can co-parent. And it's just, Oh, you got a new dude, you got a new girl. Are cool with whatever. Right? Sure. Let's go to dinner together it. I mean, I've been to dinner with Joe and breathing over last night, right? Exactly like that. There should be more. That should be the more you can't if there's feelings, though. Oh yeah, that's yeah. You know, that is the problem. The feeling, the feelings messed everything up on our emotions. Sometimes they're just on one end. Sometimes it's all both. And if it's all both good lord. No. But I think that's a really good point. I personally can date someone with kids. I feel like there's too much that goes into it, but I also. It's like, how is someone with no kids going to date me? It's like weird, right? But it's like, I can say, is it an older person who is, I can, you know, literally. Yeah. And like I said, I could handle it. Do you feel? And I could. I could. I could. I could. I could handle you. I could handle the situation with you. You think it's just all the baby? That's for sure. OK. Because guess what? I ain't stopping are over here. No, I'm just I'm just saying like your live your life we live on. It wasn't. Who is who is my favorite baby daddy of yours? Oh, I was, I don't know it, my boy. Oh my boy, Harvey, my boy. He's here right now. Oh, shoot. A lot of like I say, I got another. I just ain't got no dummy. But no, he he goes above beyond for not just his kids, other kids. I love to see that he really, you know, is helpful when it's when it's needed. You know what I mean? Because I never met Joe. And you know, Chris, I mean, we were cool with our thing. It's. It's a neutral, neutral feeling, I mean, we're not best friends, whatever, if I see you so few, Bush would say, what's up to them? I mean, no, I have no problem with them. Good to know. I would say with something, you know, we'll see where it goes from there. He when I launched this trailer, he probably called me eight nine times to get me a voice. No, he was not. I guess he was not happy about it. Probably when he didn't like, I said, I am nothing like him. I just see me from, like your perspective, work from somebody else's perspective. I only know what I know and what I say and what I do. But I think people don't believe that. I'm not the only part of the problem. You get what I mean. Oh, I get it. And to be honest, my thing is, you're not. You're you're part of the problem. Everybody is part of a problem of but you're not the. The, you know, the majority of the time, OK, so people, people got free, we really got to stop thinking they know everything and try to assume and put everything into their own picture. That's what somebody asked. Do you want kids? I do want kids. Do you want to get married? Do you do? I do. This is so interesting. Let's talk about, let's do it. OK, so I have been married and divorced, and I can't. Honestly, how was that? The interviewees were there. I was really young, and I think that was part of the downfall was not knowing what marriage entailed and like what it meant and also being in the public eye. And because it also you didn't grow up seeing that. I also is, you know what I mean? Sorry. So I had like an idea of what I thought it was and then the reality of it was a lot different. And then in the middle and something it was, we got married and had a baby within two years, right? So I think that that took away a lot of what couples. Have when they have like a healthier or slower relationship that all these milestones to look forward to and we kind of did all that we built up. Yeah. And so it's exciting to like, OK, first we're in a relationship and then maybe we get a house or we get engaged and then maybe we have like a long engagement and then maybe we move into a new house but get new jobs and then, you know, just like the milestones in whatever order they are in. I think that that was part of it. And then also, just like I think you I've read or I've heard that like women reached their full maturity around like twenty five and what you want at twenty five is very different than what you want at 20. And I would guess that it would be the same thing for men. I mean, yeah, I actually agree because like I said, I didn't grow up seeing the whole married, the whole, you know, big family white picket fence, right? This is a chocolate. I've got a golden retriever, but I you're right. I think basically, well, it's really to me, I think it depends on the person. Do you think that you could honestly get married to someone and be without one single person for the rest of you? And that's when this comes into play, I don't think. Getting engaged, I think you have to build the relationship in the relationship of, say, you were, you know that you know that the love love fairy tale. Best friends forever and they end up falling in love. And you know, I mean. But if that's not a situation, you don't know that person through and through. You got to build that s**t up and feel like a fraud a little bit because I'm like, when you get married and you say your vows and you say like through better or for worse, they can thin all of that. And I went against it and I got divorced. What the f**k do I look like going to get remarried again to potentially break that? Like, why am I making all these promises? I can't keep crying. It's an experience thing. It's like and also like, do you feel like right now at 27, you could do those things? Or do you feel like you need more time to kind of do your own thing, other thing? So I will say I want to travel. I really want to travel the world. Totally. You know what I mean? I would love to do that with my significant other. So I want to do a lot of things before because like I said, I know what type of father I'm going to be right, what type of husband I'm going to be. I want to be, and I'm not going to, like you said, I'm not me personally. I'm not going to make any promises that I don't think that I will be able to keep right. So at twenty seven, if I had if I were at this age, yeah, I could do it. If if I, you know, I'll find that person we build together and we have a sidekick. No, not once I'm married. I'm just wondering because people do it all the time. I know in this crazy thing, I do that. Why do they have, you know, it's crazy. I've been, you know, women are better at hiding it. Oh yeah, big time. But why do men do it? Why do they have multiple women? I mean, you know, I you know, I do security. I'm in the bar scene all the time. I see it all the time, and I've actually asked some of the older kids that I know that I'm close with. And what's their answer? They don't have one. Not really, not some of them usually don't have an answer. I don't know. It's just. What do you and I and I'm like, But you know what, if what if your wife's at the bar? You know, I mean, if she's leaving with a, you know, new dude, which you don't think, Oh, I'm getting a divorce, I'm like, Hey, he's double standards, man. Like, if you're not ready to commit to that one person, don't get married. Do you think it's a convenience factor? Sometimes it. Sometimes she thinks it's convenient or the woman or both. Depends on who you know, who's who's doing what. And I say in, yes, the convenience thing is I, you know, I've seen men that really are in love with their wife anymore or they just not interested, but they don't want to go through the whole divorce thing or this is a third. So, you know, it's convenient to go get some man somewhere else or, you know, and it's like, that's not right. Settling right, right? You're you're not happy. What are you? You're selling for less pretty much. Because because if that's if you married that person, then years later, years later, you're like, Oh, this is not what I want anymore. This is the bottom of the totem pole. I can, you know, I can get or I want more. Why? Why do that? So are you? You believe in monogamy? I do. Okay. I just like men like that. Like, maybe they should explore polygamy. Or I mean, yeah, but more than one woman just be with women. I mean, I was just about to say, is it as hard as more? It's harder to find women less harder to find than we think. I think more people are more open, honest and open. That's literally what it is. You're going to realize, though, you tell them what it is and sometimes, oh s**t, this will actually work better. We just feel like they're being cheap. You're not being cheated on. You're not stressing. You're not f**king calling. Right? I've had people write into me, especially from my podcast, who are in, you know, polygamous situations and relationships, and it works for them because they're honest about it. Open. Yeah. Like, literally, that's it. The truth is, this relationship could you be with, could you have two girlfriends and they know about each other? If that were if that's what works. OK, I'm just wondering if that's what if that's what works? I'm not sure I haven't tried it. I've, you know, I mean, I haven't really found any woman that would be comfortable with me. You ever really talked about it? Maybe. Not really. No, you actually. You got a point. I just feel like it's never been in conversation. It's less taboo. I'm not saying or taboo at all, but I think it's it's more talked about in this. I'm on polygamy. Ticktalk, polygamous. Yeah, I don't even I'm on that side of take talk. I don't know how I got there. I've never been in a polygamist situation, but it was something interesting to me because I was like, I think it's certainly easier now because people are having and me were in twenty twenty two. So we're having more open commerce, more open conversations about everything. Yeah. And so someone said that I could benefit from it because I really felt like I need my own space in our relationship. And so I feel the same way. Interesting. Everybody needs their own space. Yeah, because if you don't have your own space, you're going to f**king cuckoo in and. Well, and I think there's not necessarily always one person that could fulfill another person's needs. Maybe, you know, and as long as I read the book in May, then we all good for sure. So that's so interesting. What do you think about? Have you heard of the Madonna w***e complex? And I only bring this up, I brought it up last week. I want to say, I want to say, I heard I heard it. I want to say I don't know about it, but it's just because she was called a w***e or something like that, right? So when she dressed just a certain way or something. It's when how you just kind of touched on men not really being in love with their partner. Right? It's when men do not find their wife attractive and sexually desirable, so they seek go somewhere else. But they don't they? Or as wife material? Yes. But that's like, do and then so that's basically like somebody trying to turn a w***e into a housewife. It's bad. With that being said, it's like you want the nasty freak s**t, but then you want the wife materials and you basically you want your kitchen to. Women can be both. Damn right. Damn right. OK. Damn right. So for some men, there is a there is definitely. I think Kristen was telling me, you know, Kristen? She was telling me about. She knows somebody who. Was no longer sexually attracted to his wife after she gave birth. That's. That's different, so that's different for me, because, like I said, they can be both. You know, you freaking seats, you know, woman in the streets, you know what I mean? But like, so I don't get that. It's if you're going to have my thing is. Like I said, we need to learn. You need to grow and learn a person, if you know what I mean. You basically, if you're going to marry him, have a kid with him. I'm sure you've seen them at their laws before. So if you are going to not respect, you know what? She just went through having that baby for you and then, you know, help her out and take you to the gym like the teacher you know, teaches them. I don't get how the fact that you can lose attraction attraction from your wife for having a baby. Maybe she might look different, but think about what just went down. You know what I mean? That's love. Like, you know, I mean, she had just had a kid. You just think about it. If you don't if he's not attracted to her anymore, then there's a bigger there's a bigger problem. And maybe this might not work. That's fair. People said, have we ever dated or messed around? No. I mean, it is Shubha, and for Labor. I can't talk about it. Okay. Why don't you ever film with me? That's a question. That's that's a good question. I don't know. I don't know either. You tell me. I don't. I don't know, because, well, well, whether or not we're always around each other's body when we're around each other, it's just like not filming times, you know, I got my own life, things to do, but no reason. No, there's no real reason. Sure, my, my, my, my have to make that happen. Yeah, I don't know why we didn't think about that. Are you single? I am saying as I heard a rumor. Oh God, here you go. And the girls came up to me. They're like, Who's Keith Moon girlfriend? And I was like. Like, I had no idea. I was like, Oh, and we find out. Find out. It's like, it's like, you can't be around a female. You can't be around the opposite sex without people thinking some s**t. Oh boy, yes, I am single. OK. Hmm. Okay. What do men do for self-care? Is is there a such thing as self-care for men? Because you know how? Now what about women's health care, self-care? Self-care? What do men do for self-care? Sure, we do a lot like what we do a large workout. My thing is working out. I like to, you know, I'm I'm a clean freak. So I like to, you know, I like to clean up. I like the detail cause, you know what I mean, but hang out with our boys. Me and my dogs we talk about. Let me ask you about this. So in general, do men cosign for their friends horrible behavior and choices like I feel like, yes, women cheat. We know this, but men cheat more. Or at least that's what it appears to be like. Your men tell their friends when they're f**king up. Damn right. And I'm gonna say this model. Not selves. Yeah, you're here with my bro. But it's like I was talking to you. Why are you all like that? It's not. It's not everybody, but it's more so. It's like you're not even thinking about yourself, you're like, Damn, I want the best for my dog, I want the best for my friend. I get it. It's it's kind of different, but it's not like. Oh, we're just letting our boys f**k up, and we're just, yeah, just do it. It's like if my boys really f**king up and it's not right. No, no, this ain't it emerged. Cut that s**t out or we got to cut ties. And that's not what I say. That's not forever. Not all men are the same. And not everybody has real love and real friendships, right? I honestly believe that me and my friends, all my friends, everybody I'm cool with because they're just like my mom. They're like my mom, sons. I'm probably I'm probably the only friend group that I've never seen. Break up and new people added you different best friends, different people. You've been around the same people all my life that for as long as all my life, all my life, the people, the only newer people that I've met were two people in college, and I knew them from most of the people from back home. Or if they're if I didn't, if I just know them, then we're locked in. So you know what I mean? Like those, those are my my best friends. So crazy. Yeah, I feel like I've grown apart from a lot of my friends I have. We all we all have our different lives and we all most of my friends have kids now. I don't, you know, weird for, you know, because, you know, I love kids, you know, I love being around them. I see them as my nieces and nephews. But it's like, you know, we all know, we all understand, we understand each other loves like one of my boys just on my way here. I've been talking to a couple of days. He just had a daughter not too long ago, told me you wanted to come over. I was going details car and I haven't talked to him in forever by like a month or two. But it's the saying, you know, it's just this, literally. And that's what I wear. I think that, you know, the real friendship the real love comes into play of, you know, the respect as well. So that's why, you know, if you see a boy or girl forking out like, get on the air, get on the ass, especially it comes from having a majority from Harvey is like, I'm not your yes man. But he I don't think people realize I don't have friends. I cosign everything I do. I don't even think you. Of course I know I do. No, not at all. I just cuts you out last week. Like, Come on, guys, give us some, you know, so it's all love. I love my my friends that tell me what it is. Like your mom's the same way. Oh, no, I don't really agree with that. But if you're going to do it, then whatever I'm telling you like that, this is a good idea or whatever, and I am trying to give you guys, but guess what? We're all adults. We're going to make our own decision for sure. No matter where you're my mom, your mom, whoever uncle, whatever, right? We're going to make our own decisions. Part of it is like, sometimes it sounds good from other people or you understand from other people. But until you do it yourself and find out from you all know. No, no, no. OK. So who are these guys? The first one gave me anxiety. Yes, also gave me idea to throw my phone shot out. Tariq go on, though. OK? Someone asked, What would you want your legacy to be? Kids are no kids. What do you want to leave like? What is your legacy that you want to leave? I did everything I said I was going to do. Like you were, I kept my word. A man of your word. You know, that's something that I'm trying to drill into my kids right now. No, because like Lincoln and Isaac will fight a lot about, you know, well, he said he played this game with me. If I did this, and as little and petty as I am like you, you have their word. And you said that you got to teach them now because it instills into them now. Yeah, sure. And that's part of the other thing with Isaac, too, is like, he's older, so I think that he feels like he has the most respect. I mean, yeah, any older? Oh, so you're the oldest. You do feel like you were the man of the house for your mom. I don't feel like I don't feel I was. You were. Yeah, I am. Yeah, I was. I'm still is that even I lived there for Isaac. It's I mean, he's the oldest at my house and at Joe's house. So that's a lot of responsibility. Well, you know, my mom raised me and my brother on our own, you know, help my grandmother out. But my mom did her damn thing. Yeah. And I noticed that at a young age, like very young. So soon I knew and what she had to do. She had to do. And so when we were struggling, I'm like, I know it. Yeah, you know, I'm not asking for destroying a store. It is food because I know we can't get it right now or she's busting their a*s and you know what I mean? I think that that was a good thing or a bad thing because I've always I guess my problem right now is I don't want to tell my kids too much because I don't want to put adult problems on my children. You think it's I don't think it's not good. I don't think I don't think kids get adult problems until they are trying to live their adult life on their own. If that makes sense, my mom kept it a hunter with me every day, all day, all my life, no matter if it was going to hurt me, no matter whatever. So with that being said, you basically just got a roll with roll, with the punches, pretty much because it's like, like I said, I see my mom struggle struggle. So it's just like any kid that has common sense and is taught correctly or, excuse me, raised correctly and is going to realize, like, you know, you're going to realize it like, so last week, when I talked to Rico, if you listen to it, he I asked him about his. He said that like, women can't raise men like they should. It's the, he said. It's 98 percent of. The men who are raised by single moms who are soft, like, get that from I must say this, I must say this. I was raised by nothing more women and I'm now nowhere near so charming. So no, that's not correct, man. I've somewhat, you know, some of the some some of the some of the toughest motherf**kers I know were raised by nothing but women. Some of the, you know, the strongest people I know were raised about nothing but women. It's all about how you're raised and what you experience through life. Right? I know single fathers that have raised their kids in their kids or so. And they, you know, their kids, the boys live with their dad and are supposed to be tough. And and ah, so that statement is not correct at all, at all. I asked him where he got his statistics from, where he thinks this is a good question and I guess I could go from. It could go any direction you want it to. What is something that you have had to unlearn? Something I had, whether it be just like as a man, you know, your issues with your dad, how you're good. They were just life stress and stress and stressing and worrying about things that I have no control about. That's so hard. Yeah. Like, yeah, especially for me, I'm Stu. I get anxiety when, you know, if Joe takes me or calls me randomly because we don't speak unless we have. So when you see that you're like, Oh s**t, what happened? Like, what was going on? And usually it's probably like a beef, you know, because I'm just so and same thing for Chris is like, Chris doesn't call me unless there's something, some some issue. And so I have like anxiety about it, but not. Or like when someone's like, Oh, I need to talk to you, but I don't want to talk to you until five p.m. and then I have anxiety all day. It's like, f**k you. But it has nothing to do with them. It has to do with me. Like, I can't control whatever. Literally, you know, that happened to me this morning, actually, and I was like, You can talk me right the f**k now, or I'm not talking to you later. Well, how do you like that? No, I get that. I'm the same way. So in life, you're saying that the one thing you could unlearn is not worrying about things that you can't control. You start worrying about things out of my control. OK, cool. That's a good one. I mean. And because if you really think about it like that has to do with everything in life. Yeah. You know, no matter if it's school work, you're inside businesses. Your kids love your vehicle, your sides. Just kidding. I'm against it. I'm against guns. Someone said, Could you please describe your friendship? Our friendship? I can't stand this b***h. No, no. Our friendship is more like it's it's family for a lover to death. I'll do anything for honors. You do the same. We've, you know, helped each other. I hope each other's families out. So it's all love is and by going to where we're not going. Not at all. Someone wants to know everything about you. They said, You are so hot. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. I mean, I wish you were a library. I could, you know? Is he single and does he want my number? Well, maybe we'll see. Maybe I'll get it. I'll yet you're telling me, just hear me down. And there's so much said, Is this man married? If not, then you need to lock them down ASAP. Oh, that's OK. We should play. f**k, marry, kill. Really quick. Here. Can we welcome Mary? I'm going to get some for y'all. All right. Zendaya, Kim K and Teyana Taylor. Is it Tay on our? I think it's too young to think so. f**k merry. Go f**k America. And. I procure why she's so fine. She is fine, she's very beautiful. You know, I like pick a woman, you know? You know what I mean? I'll let you know, just not so my cup of tea. OK, so we got Mary and f**k Kim or Teyana Taylor. Hot marriage, Seattle, and I'm f**king grotesque. Really? Yeah, tell me why. I've written what I've been saying to Onotole on, you know, since 41 of the birthdays for the show, she was on the birthday, my sweet 16. She was on that. Yeah. And look, why was she like, why were they? Yeah, hold on. I know she does for you. I don't know. She was on there. Yeah, that's how she. And she was like a tomboy. Then when she sort of grew up, you know, when she grew up and, you know, she's beautiful. She's loyal to her husband. She's a free love that, you know, I mean, she's a great mother. You know, I'm sure Kim Kardashian knows, is that as well. She's just got too much baggage as much as Bhatia. I mean, I mean, you are you are now onto another competitor. But we all do. You're right. We all do. But you know, it's just be a one quick time for feel about the the Kanye stuff. He dressed up from what I say, allegedly dressed up as a bush like shrub. I do not see that. No way. Yeah, he did. Well, you know, he bought the crib across the street. So what do you say to about us? I actually just saw a post last night saying, like people were thinking Connie's trip and he's fighting for his family. He's bugging out blah blah blah. But if you think about it, that is all. Those are his kids and that was his wife. And he just wants to. He's doing it. Yeah, it's out of pocket. It's extra bulls**t. It's like if you want to be in your kid's life, yeah, do what you gotta do all of this while he keeps women with women, right? And which doesn't make sense to me was does not make sense to me. Like I said, if you're doing it for the kids involved, the kids, that's it. Don't, you know, don't keep him trying to have the old relationship or get back with the mom. Just do what you got to do for your kids and keep pushing if you're going to be with other women. Here is the article that Kanye was. No way. He was I mean, nothing you've ever done in a relationship or during a breakup, what is the craziest thing you've ever done to a woman? We're about, we're about a woman. Let's hear it. Got it to you. I stood outside the window throwing rocks, trying to get the attention. That's not that bad. Oh, I mean, I'm not. Wait, where are you guys going through a breakup or what? Oh, yeah, like, oh oh. So it's like, kind of like stalker. Yeah. Oh, OK. You know what I mean? You know, like, I'm watching you say, Oh my god, that's terrifying. f**king terrifying. How old are you? f**king 20, 19 20. Yeah. Another video this time. OK. But give you a pa*s. But because I've also done some crazy s**t that's not healthy. So let's we're going to work on in 2022. We're not going to do crazy s**t. No toxicity. No toxicity. I'm with that. We got it. We both. We all. We we both have to do that and on woman's side and on the men's side and or don't stand up to it. Because I feel like. It's weird because if you have your with somebody that's like does crazy things like that, if you stand up for yourself, it's a reaction. It's a reaction. And they want and they want any type of react or what it no matter what it is. So you defend blocking and no changing you. No, but you freak out and anger or respond, say, stop texting me, that's still a story. You're still getting to you. And so I'm kind of stuck between like that. My thing is, I can't shut the f**k up. I can't like I. Somebody gives me bulls**t. I got to give it. I got it. I got to give it back. Yeah. And then in their hand, if you're silent, they keep doing it because they get away with it and you're not seen and you're not standing up for yourself. Where I'm at right now is like, I it almost feels like. So you're buddy buddy with me when you feel like it, but you're saying all kinds of off the f**king wall set to me, and I can't defend myself because when I defend myself, it's a problem. It's the reaction. And when I don't defend myself, you feel like you can pretend to be my friend and then cast me out and then be my friend and cast me out. And it just goes back and forth because you get what I'm saying. That's what we call it. Narcissistic behavior. OK. It's not me. So that's what I struggle with now. Yeah, I get it. I'm going for it because I mean, I just don't know how. Like, what do you even do with that? Have you ever put a. Did you and your previous significant others ever share locations and you're wondering where each other are? Do you think that's healthy or not healthy or does it depend? I think it all depends on who is a person and what the relationship is about. That's that's what I don't think. But then again, I don't think it's right because it's like, you don't trust me this much that you got to stalk my location. So you got my location up all of the work, you're right there in the parking lot waiting on me, and I'm like, What the f**k I do? I'm just saying as if you were actually going to work well, you don't. You don't trust me that much that I'm that you got to stop one job. You know what I mean? I don't. I don't believe in it. I mean, not send them location. You went to Sharon. I think you have my list. I'm sure do. Let me go. Look, that's because I'm your protector. That's the difference. That's the difference. So have you have yours in the last year or so? I'd have to get a private jet and go out there immediately. My mom, my mom, and kick my a*s if I didn't imagine. I think your mom has my location, too. I just like, never know. Like what's going to happen? What exactly is it? It's better to be safe and sorry. Has has he ever had to push or fight someone away or any crazy incidents as your bodyguard? I can't recall the first time the VMAs a girl tried to grab your hair and pushed you forward. You probably don't remember because she lost as you were what you were on the record. But you were walking. You were walking. And she tried to like, like, just like, try grabbing a gun. And I just pushed her and we just kept pushing. I do not remember that you're the first. You met Mo to write monies. Oh s**t. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Huh? Yup, yup. The first that was the first one in New York. 18 Remember this. My memory is awful. I do remember that was probably the same one I got. And. Oh, f**k. An ex-girlfriend. Yeah. You met her. Yeah, you did. You went there. Yeah, she pulled up. And you were like, what the f**k? Was this this is the one when I had the really super curly hair? Yes, because the second one, it was me, you and only. That the second one, when you were with me and Leo. Yes, I got really sick, know strep throat. That was not a fun time. I was miserable. Let's see. OK. This is kind of a touchy subject trigger warning for anyone who has been in an abusive relationship. Someone wrote that they want to know the truth about me being abusive. You being abused? Yes. I never knew anything about that, and I don't see that coming from you. I'm not in, you're not on your part described kill in one word. I'm scared. I'm nervous. I don't know what you're going to say. Yeah, that's good. Because it's like, Oh. A handful in a good way, in a good way. I get. OK, I was going to say chaotic, but that's not really I mean. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's fair. I feel like that's fair. He just got a wild life. Yes. It's just is. That's why I'm like, because you do a lot. I need my own. Damn right. But the people in my life, like everybody, would have to be on it. Yeah. And to putting all this s**t out there, because there are it's really hard for me when I want to be transparent about something and I know that the other person doesn't want me to or vice versa. Someone wants to put my s**t out there, but you want to. And so if I was to have my own show, that would be like one of the biggest things would be getting other people to commit, commit to selling those things and like just letting it out. Had they came over yesterday to drop Isaac off and they saw the house and stuff like that, and they talked about it and we were kind of thinking like, maybe we should just produce other shows. Well, maybe we need to take a step back from like not putting our s**t out there because I feel like we're on one hand, we're growing away from that. But I'm the same, and I do feel like we still have enough going on that we can have our own show. Do you watch, like you said, I think you just you just have to. Everybody would have to commit to doing it because, you know, if you're going to have everybody involved, everybody's got to be involved. 100 So for sure. Do you watch Euphoria? I don't know why people want to know. You know, it's crazy. That's the only thing. It's only show I haven't tapped into. I haven't. I haven't watched it. You know, so funny that you said Zendaya, but that's so funny. She's in it, right? Yeah. And that's I. I saw like a little clip and I was like, You know, I'm not watching his bulls**t. I feel like everyone's talking about it so much that now I need to watch it. But I have cable and internet right now. Once I once I get there. So I want to binge watch the one where you are, Keith. He's a pretty dope dude. So you must know her. Appreciate it. That's nice. You ain't so bad. Don't don't believe everything you hear. What are they hearing? I need to know. s**t. I only know. You guys go, OK. Common interests. What do we have in common? We like the way my girl, Kathy, is, she likes all the good foods. I love it. We still got a good place. We ate was Toba, which is like Asian, like sushi. When was I was like a couple months ago, like a month ago? That's a good one. Maybe we should do like eating food review podcast, the old techniques or new oil we get, or we can record going in different restaurants as well. Yeah, we do the first impression of each other. My first impression of you was, who the f**k is that man to your voice? You're tall and everyone who looks like he's losing you? I still, I don't discriminate. So you don't see, though. But I I was like, that you were. You knew everybody. Right? So if I saw you on campus, you were. You could talk to anyone. And you're just like, Who knows? Who is this? Like, Who is that? It's a regular do from Newark, Delaware. No, I had a really hard time in college because I felt like I was. I'm only three years older than you, right? But I had so much and like, I had to keep going on. Then I got pregnant, and then it was just like I was. We definitely did not have the same college experience. Thoughts on no strings attached hookups. I feel like men do that a lot, and women have a harder time with that because because emotions like they can compartment is like a waffle. And then, like the brain is like a waffle, they can put something in each little pocket. These pocket and just women's brains are like spaghetti, and it's all this is all in one, right? Oh my goodness. Have you ever hooked up with a woman where you are like, this is just for a hookup? And then one of you ended up wanting a relationship? Yes. Was it you or was it them, or have you been in both situations? More so, it was both situations, but more so in the report. And then what do you do? Try to establish what's what is what it is like. How do you do that when their emotions are already invested? Communicate that. That's that's really the man. Communicate, communicate, communicate to let them know like, Yo, this isn't what this is. Or if you think there's some potential in it, don't lead them on. But, you know, like I say, grow into those milestones. Hookup culture is not all that it's cracked up to. It's not. It's like I went through a small phase in my life and it was just very, very small things in my life, and it was not like it was fun. Sometimes, you know, you're like, Why don't I just do it? Yeah. Also, I've never like done like a one night stand type situations like that where I feel like on one hand, I'm like, Maybe I should have experienced that. And then on the other hand, I'm like, it's not really probably shouldn't certainly went through the air. It's not all. It's cracked up to be at all. Someone said, Were you sleeping with Keith and Chris at the same time? That's interesting. That's a really interesting comment, because no, no. Like, I think we already went through that. But let's see. Trust me, she wouldn't be going back down. OK. How long have we been friends for a while? I met you when we graduated in 17, 2017, 2017. Posting about it over also yourself, known as Chick for 10 year like my whole life. That's crazy. Oh, bulls**t, OK? I think that's OK. Can you cover toxic relationships and PTSD? Have you ever been in a toxic relationship? Damn right, I have, actually. Did you love it or hate it? Hated it? You hated it. It was stressful. It was. Wood was draining stressful, draining, annoying all in one person. And it's like if you could really focus on myself, for sure. You know what I mean? And in PTSD, it'll give you PTSD. I think that's more like, see PTSD, right? Like, Oh yeah, yeah, you know, it'll change how you view relationships. And I agree. And it could basically f**k off future releases because you see other people the same way if something triggers you or they just did the same thing, that. And I'm not this person. Abuse physical abuse, but like malignant manipulation, mental, emotional and mental is like. And then there's also I don't want to call it like a phenomenon, but like when? Not in a physical way, but an abuser that's manipulative or emotionally or mentally abusive. Sometimes when? The victim gets out of the relationship, they then become the abused abuser because the relationship, because what they went through and you know, and so that's really hard and I don't think people ever really talk about that part of it. People are going to realize you're going to communicate and really talk about. If you want to get over and you want to understand more like communication is key, for sure. For sure. What's it like to? What's it like knowing the truth, what people don't see and seeing people crucify kale? So if you know the truth about a situation and then I mean, honestly, because you all realize, you know, I know a lot of people, a lot of people that know me, know of you or know that we are cool and people always ask me, Oh, she did. This did. And it pisses me off because I know you're my dog, you're my friend. And that's and I and I know the truth. And you know, when it's nothing that people need, if it's business, people are going to know, I correct them. And, you know, do you because that's a social elsewhere? Or do I swear because it's like, it's like when it's busy? If they ask me questions and I and I know I can say, you're correct, whatever, and I'll defend you. But even if I don't say what the correct the whatever is going on is, I still, you know, get on people's a*s like to it. That's not it. You should stop listening to media. That's the main thing I see established in the media. I don't know how I would feel if I saw headlines about my friend that weren't true. And I mean, I've definitely had people come to me and be like, Oh, this is true about someone else. And like, if I don't know, I genuinely don't do don't know. But most of the time, it's not true because you know them. And like, if you know, I know you and you know you're not your girlfriend, you know the person. So you know what they're going to do and whether or not this is true. What's the craziest thing that you've ever seen as a bodyguard? It's not just mine. I've seen people get shot. That's terrifying. I've seen that. You see, I've I've been in the middle shoot outs and not even like in other cities and those people get stabbed. I've seen, too. I mean, funny, not funny, was said, I've seen people shoot themselves. I mean, that's kind of funny. But yeah, like there were worse things, as you see in someone's life being taken or attempted. That's sad. And that's why that's why, you know, before I started doing armed security, an actual bodyguard, things I you know, you got to get training, you got to really learn the game because you can't just put on a vest, put on a gun and think you're going to be able to stop something right. You got to be able to pack wounds. Gabrielle, stop bleeding. You got to be able to do CPR. You got to be able to assess, you know, get people away. You know what I mean? Like, there's a there's a lot of things you go that go into, and that's why I want to keep training and keep learning every day, every week, every month, every year. You have to. It's because the world, you know, the world is changing. Someone asked, Have you ever had a fall out or been romantically involved? No. Two romantically involved and fallout, I think also is no. No. You know, we never thought about anything, but you did hit me something. I was talking s**t, talking s**t on Facebook, and I was like, I said, No, that's not what I was say, and I wasn't meaning to like that. You're like, Oh, okay, that's not really a fallout. No, no, no, no, we're not. Yeah, we've never had fall off. We've probably argued once and not even f**king know you just you, but you probably just pushed me all those guys to piss me off. Right? Everybody visits. Kill off. No, you are. Yes, you're right. You're very right. OK, let's see. How do you deal with your kids acting out when you're not present? That's not really related to you, I would say. But you've corrected my kids. Yeah, right? You've corrected. Yeah, I'm worried because I know what you know how a kid should be respecting their mother or respecting an elder. And you know, even like I know, Kill would allow me to correct their kids. So I wouldn't just say anything that anybody's random kid. And, you know, so it's basically like, Oh, I see what needs to be fit or what needs to be done. So I do whatever. I was just telling my new neighbor about I complain a lot about my kids. Dad's not teaching them how to like mow the lawn and like certain things like that. And I'm like, That's what I really need to work on. This summer is like getting better life skills learning. Yeah, but like things, I don't know how to be like. I need to get your help, his help, like, you know, help learning how to do these things myself. So teach teaching kids. Yeah, just because I don't want future women to create actually. And that came from someone who messaged me and was like, I listen to your podcast and you complain a lot about men and like, what your baby daddy said didn't do. But like, what are you doing to fix this for your kids? And I was like, Wow, like, that's the constructive criticism. That's a new one, right? And that's like, Thank you. Yeah. And I said that. Wow. Thank you so much. Because now I'm going to talk to my friends who know how to do s**t, like changing a tire, mowing the grass, like doing like different s**t around the house. I just told some of my friends how to change a tire in the past three or four years and really in their. You know, I've been doing that to those I learned in high school drivers. I think I ever needed to have them do it then. And then I had remember when my I was supposed to go to a wedding and I broke down on the highway. I didn't know how to ask where where I was. I go over there, which were far enough. It was like our school and I didn't know how to change a tire. Like, I don't want that to be my kids or to work on that. Then when we get it, I think that's it, though I think that's that's the conclusion of this episode, and I hope that we can get you your own podcast. I think the I think I think we're going to do that very soon. And that's what I want to do on your podcast. Damn right, you'll be. You'll be the first episode. Yes. All right. What were some juicier topics? Thanks. Yeah, yeah. I'll be the interviewer. So you make your Instagram on private or is it still private? It's private, but I will. And probably you don't have to. It's up to you. I was going to say, where can people find you or follow you? Keith underscore splash in my business pages bare arms security on Instagram and Twitter. If you guys want kids to have his own podcast, let me know. Yeah, what's the let me know what you think I'll ever try, you know, trying to get her to talk her into it? I think I could do it. I think it could do. I think I can. Saddle up and get ready for Westerns weeks on Pluto TV, all for free. We're coming in blazing with favourites like True Grit and Once Upon a Time in Mexico, or immerse yourself in binge worthy series like Yellowstone and Walker Texas Ranger. Plus, Pluto TV has hundreds of channels with thousands more movies, TV shows and more. The best part? It's free. No credit card, no Santa, no fees. 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