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Alright. I'm gonna keep this simple. Welcome back to Straight Up with Stassi. I'm Stassi Schroeder Clark. Let's do this. Y'all, let me just let me just say, I wanna get into this football talk. I have Kelly Stafford here. Okay? Everyone knows Kelly Stafford, wife of Matthew Stafford, but she is just like such a force in her own right because you started your own podcast the morning after, which I think is so genius. Because as someone, Kelly, who Mhmm. Doesn't care about football, like, I don't I don't care about sports. Like, I've never been a sporty girl. I do, however, always wonder about how is life for their families, for their girlfriends, for their children after a game or the next day? Because I know just as, like, being married to a, like, Rams die hard fan that, like, my night and the next day is dependent On the game. On the game. So I couldn't imagine what that would be like for you. So genius move. Genius move. Well, thank you. But that's honestly why I called it the morning after. It did entail, like, morning after games because it's always, like, the toughest time, especially our 12 years as a Tory. I feel like every morning was tough. But, no. And then I was like, you know what? It can be anything. Because I feel like the morning after also has a stigma of, you know, the typical morning after situation. Mhmm. But I I love that I did it. It's turned into more than football, which I do love because as your husband probably knows, and I don't know if you know, but my husband's on the tail end of his career, so it's not going to be much longer. But no. I I honestly love doing it. It's it's been something that's my own because as you said, you know, you become the significant other of somebody else, and they're constantly in this limelight. And you're always kind of in the shadows, which is totally fine, but you have to find your own it'll get there. That's what I do with my podcast. Yeah. No. I didn't mean I yeah. I I I I totally I I know what you mean. I mean, look at Gizelle. Not not that I think you guys are gonna break up. That's not what I meant by that. She meaning she had to quit. I took it I took it as look at Giselle, like, top mom. Like, thank you. I appreciate that. I'll do that. That you guys are one and the same. You guys have to put aside some of the things that you wanna do in order to support your significant other. And, like, that's also, like, how relationships work. Normally, in general, it always ebbs and flows, and someone's having to be more supportive. The other person has to, like, you know, and and I just think that yes. And I think that starting a podcast and the name of it and just, like, talking about all of the things and and humanizing you and your family, and not just, oh, like, the wife of a footballer, I just think is really brilliant, and it was very smart. Well, I appreciate it. It was honestly just to have some fun. It started out, like, in our back house, in a guest room, and kind of turned into something that I love doing. But at the end of the day, I mean, I do feel like people look at anyone who is in the mix a little bit or known and say, oh, well, they probably have it like this or like that. And it's kind of nice to humanize it. I mean, I'm still a mom of 4 girls trying to figure that out every day, literally trying not to yell all the time, Trying to make sure I'm dating my husband, keeping that, you know, keeping fire there. So we go through the same things as every other marriage, all other parents. So, yeah, I think it was something also just like get it out. I started it again just to I feel like with Instagram, social media, all these things that you put yourself right, like as a parent, as a wife, you're looking at all these things like I'm failing when really none of that's real. And you have to humanize it all and, like, make it, hey, this is what is actually going on here. I had a terrible f**king day at being a mom. I made all my girls cry or something. You know, just like getting out there, normalizing things that are actually normal. So, again, I love doing it. I actually brought a co host on. He's great. He's from Detroit. But it's been it's been a whirlwind. It's been fun. Well, I love how you're just so honest about everything, like, when it comes to like, you already just said it yourself, but dating your husband, postpartum life, how you felt about your body, issues with your children. You're super honest. And the fact that you just said also, like, on Instagram, we always feel like we're failing. Like, this has been the theme of, like, this past year for me where I've realized that, like, we can't have it all. We shouldn't want to have it all. We're gonna have it all at different we're gonna have things at different times in our life. But why are we striving to just do the most all the time? Because social media is also a lie. Like and we know this. It's a it's a photo album, and you're not gonna put up the ugly parts of your life on a photo album. Do you know what I mean? Oh, I'm yes. It's like a a mental health journey once you get into that, either Instagram or TikTok, whatever you're on. I mean, I feel like you have to go into it just trying to remind yourself that what you're seeing really is real. It's crazy. Yeah. But it's so addicting. It's so wild. I know that it's so bad for you and you're still and I'm still, like, on it, which drives me crazy. But it is what it is at this point. But I do I mean, I hope by the time my girls are old enough to even know what social media is, it's gone. But, I mean, I know that's not gonna happen. Yeah. No. It won't be. Girl, I feel like it's gonna, like, pop up in your mind, and that's gonna be social media. I know. Literally. So I wanna talk I have, like, all of these things that I wanna talk to you about, the things that you have been honest about, like, especially, like, postpartum stuff and things like that. But before I get into that stuff, can we just take a moment for the WAG renaissance, the WAG revival that's going on because of Taylor Swift? The way that I want Taylor Swift to be on a reality show or become a podcaster though so that she can elevate me. She is elevating WAGS everywhere. They are now y'all are our new supermodel. You're at now y'all are everything that we wanna be. Do you hate or love the word WAG? I mean, do you care? I'm in I'm indifferent to it. It's kind of whatever. I mean, that's what we are. We're wives and girlfriends of of whoever. Do you call yourselves that? No. No. You're never like, hey, fellow wag. No. No. No. Absolutely not. No. No. You don't have a group chat entitled WAGs with all the other ones? No. But I'm really old, so maybe the young girls do. But I am very oh, I am No. I'm like Are are you 1 year younger than me? I'm older than you. This but Oh, I'm too old to be a WAG. Are you 30 what are you? 35? I'm 35. Okay. I'm 34. I'll be 35 in August. So we're the same. I'm too old to be a WAG. Girl, I'm one of the oldest I think I'm probably the oldest WAG there is. Okay. It's really sad. No. That is, like, really dark. No. I'm not joking, Kelly. Like, that's dark. So Welcome to my life. Being the old b***h in the room. Yeah. Okay. Well 4. Do you feel Taylor Swift is 34. I love her. She's she's she's me. I mean, I wish I was her, but I can call her me. Right? She's a 34 year old wag. Yes. We're both we're basically the same person. Do you feel like she is like like, from the outside, I'm seeing the WAG Renaissance. I'm seeing the WAG revival. Do you feel that? No. But, again, I'm old. I don't know. No. You can't use that excuse anymore. You're Taylor Swift's age. No. I know. I know. But she's, like, young and hard, and she's got boyfriend, and it's all fun. They're going to Super Bowl, and it's all great. And I'm over here. I'm old. I got 4 kids. I got a new dog. Dumb. Shouldn't have done that. And I'm just trying to survive. So I don't I mean, I think for the younger girls, it's amazing. I do think it's gonna bring to light some things. Maybe, you know, if she does come out and say what goes into it, what he does, you know, all those things will bring some light into that. But otherwise, I mean, now we gotta keep up with Taylor Swift. Hell, we have some vials on the sideline. I'm like, guys, can we get some little chicks? No. See, I feel like no. It's it's good for everyone's, like, group average. You know? You only want you wanna surround yourself with the coolest people. So it, like, it brings up the WAG group average. They do bring it very far up, especially Taylor. I mean, come on. You're also already up there. Okay? Let's be real. You're very sweet. I'm again, I'm just there. But it counts. Okay. So I wanna talk a little bit about the fact that you spent 12 years, okay, in Detroit. Okay. So y'all met in college. Mhmm. Then he gets drafted to the Detroit Lions. Yes. Then after 12 years, a little switcheroony. A little switcheroony. I wanna know, Did you guys mastermind a switch to the LA Rams so that you could have better weather and more things to do? I mean, I wish I was that smart. No. And I wish it works that way. That happen? Like, how does, like, how does how does that even It was just It was actually kinda crazy. Have you ever been to any of the Discovery Land properties? I don't know what you're talking about. Like, Nozler Ranch or any of the telco I think I've I've heard about, like, where you you go and do work on yourself. Correct? Well Inner work. Inner work. Know. No. There Spas. No. Are we talking No. No. I don't know what you're talking about. Never mind. They're just like properties that they there's certain properties all around, the US, and then they have them in Mexico. And they're anyways, long story short, we are trying to go to one of their properties in the Bahamas because we're in Detroit. So we're close to the Bahamas. Oh, like a resort. Yeah. It's yes. It but it's, like, privately owned, houses and, like, a what is it called? Like, almost like a country called the girl. Yes. You can have your privacy and not have to totally. Okay. I understand that. Yes. Got them all. No. No. You're not. No. You're not. Listen. You don't know who you're talking to right now. But so the, anyways, supposed to go to the Bahamas, it got there was a hurricane or something that happens. They're like, we can put you at Chileno Bay, which is in Mexico, Cabo. We're like, can we go to El Dorado, which is also in Cabo? But anyways, they're like, no. We only have Chalano open. Went to Chalano, ran into a few football players, which you won't know. So I'll just We never just we never run into football players because we're not going to private bougie a*s resorty things. That's why. Okay. Well, after this conversation, I'll fill you in on all of it. But, anyways, we ran into a bunch of people, including the head coach for the Rams, actually, at the other location that we're supposed to go to was the head coach for San Fran, which was a possible for us. Yes. So it was kinda like, if we went there, I think we probably would have ended up a 49er. Wait. But we telling me hold on. You're telling me that you just go on vacay. And then all of a sudden and like the butterfly effect, you could have gone to a different we stayed in a different place and just, what do you mean? Like, you could have just ended up how? It's honestly I think coaches, when they talk to Matthew, they see how kind of brilliant he is outside of his talent. And so immediately, they're like, we want this guy, which is a lot listen, he's great. He has his flaws, but in that aspect, he's great. So that's kind of like literally kind of just went down like that. The Rams and the Lions started talking, worked out a deal. I mean, we were still in Cabo when we found out we were gonna be a Ram. So he found out, gosh, we you know, I play well as well, but, no, when he found out. So it happens that fast? It happened quickly for us. It happens quickly for us. It does not happen that way all the time. It was kind of a surprise because they had just, given Jared a big deal. We didn't even think the Rams were like as we were going to Kabul, I told him, I was like, we gotta get out away from football. That's literally I was like, let's get out of the country so I can take your mind off it. To get to be in somewhere for 12 years and then to ask for a trade and not know where you're going Yeah. That's is it I mean, it was really hard for him to ask for it too. He loves that city, but we just knew, honestly, for both parts, for them to get where they needed to be and for us to get where or for him to get where he wanted to be, it just needed to happen. So when he asked for, I was like, alright. Let's get out of here. And then we run into 9 1,000 football players in Kabul. I'm like, well, this didn't work. And then the trade went down there. So it was, honestly, it was wild. But, yeah. We went from cold to warm. So yeah. Cold to warm. Do you ever, like, talk to other, you know, wives or girlfriends of players, and they're like, man, we just got drafted in this town, and, like, it's so f**king cold there. Like, couldn't even draft it to this place. That I bet that happens a lot. It does happen a lot. And, also, like, the trades when someone's, like, from LA to Minnesota. Not saying but it's just, like, weather wise. Yeah. I'm not saying it's, like, there is a bad city. It's but there is something to be said for being used to California weather or liking California weather over Minnesotian is that a word? Yes. Weather. Like, it just like, let's call a spade a spade. Why do people say that? I don't know. But it is what it is. Spade. Yeah. No. I no. I totally agree with you because I feel like everyone whenever I'm so pro about LA or weather, whatever, I feel like I get Detroit backlash. And I'm like, okay. Hold on. Like, it's not it's just different. And I LA weather is great, especially with children. There's no putting on heavy coats to take them off right when you get to the car to put them back on. I mean, I did that with 4 little ones and wanted to rip my hair. I didn't wanna leave the house because it was too hard. So and you're sitting inside, and it's it's it was a nice different trade off, I would say. So, yes, now we're outside a bunch. We're happy here. We have great community. It's been and obviously, Matthew got what he wanted, and he's gonna keep trying to get your husband another one. So, hopefully, not for too long. But tell him that. He's upstairs, but he's like I was like, is there anything special that you want me to ask on your behalf? And he's like, no. It's okay. It's, like, it's okay. I'm like, you can tell me. Like, I know he's upstairs. Giddy as f**k right now. You have no idea. Well, tell thank you. That makes you feel so special. Makes you feel like Taylor Swift. Oh, I'm gonna tell about that. Have you ever been friends with someone who, like, you guys got really close because you were, let's say, like, in Detroit for 12 years, so, like, another wife or a girlfriend, and then they had to move and you guys, like, had this their husband or boyfriend got traded, and then it was, like, heartbreak for you and your friendship? Yeah. It's really rare for a player to stay as long as we did in one place. And so it was kind of like a little carousel. But, like, they would come, they would leave. So then how do you prefer? I wouldn't want to make any friends then. I'd be like, no. Because you're you're just probably going to get traded. Yeah. And it started to get that way, especially towards the end when I was like, I feel like I've done this a 1000000 times. I don't want to get too close to someone because they leave. But then again, it's like getting the dog versus knocking dog because of the heartbreak at the end, but you still end up getting dog for the time because it's, you know, so special. Alright. Then I've never thought about it. Okay. I mean, that's kind of how I told myself to look at it. You know, if I closed myself off to everyone in Detroit, including teammates wise and so like that, I would have been I would have had no one. So you kind of have and there are great people within the football world, especially significant others. I mean, I feel like we're all going through some of the same thing, just praying our guys don't get hurt and praying we stay in one spot. So we're not picking up and moving families and doing all this stuff. So you have that commonality to work relation even though we're all from different backgrounds, we're all different. It's nice. But now I'm just really old, so people are like, I don't wanna hang with the old b***h with 4 kids. I mean, I remember coming into the league saying that about other girls. I okay. I I it's the kids part that ages us. Let's be real. I know. It's not our actual age. It's not the fact that I'm 35 and you're 34. It's the fact that we can't because I would say that we could pass for our twenties for twenties, some somewhere in there. Okay? So it's not about our age or the number. Totally agree. It's that our lifestyles are different and there we have different responsibilities that we cannot control anymore. So we're just not as cool and fun and hip. That's what it is. It's not the age. Yeah. I and I totally agree that. I also feel like I told Matt the other day. I was like, I feel like I'm in my prime. I don't know why, but I was like, I feel good. Our kids are at, like, an age I know you have 2 little ones. Our kids are now at an age where I'm like, they can kind of do everything on their own in a way. I mean, the little one, basically, her older sisters will do, like, shower her and get her whatever. So it's kind of nice. I'm at this, like, stage in life where it's before they become mean. Right? Because I Well, my daughter's mean already. But, you know How old is your daughter? 3. She's mean to me. Mean to me. Oh, she's daddy's girl? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, I have 4 I I have 4 of those, so that makes you feel better. No. So I wanted to ask you, when does life get easy again? And so that's funny that you just said that you feel like you're in your prime because I only have 2, a daughter and a baby boy. And They're 2 more away. Thank you. Like, as much as I say Hartford's mean, it's it's more like a joke. She's not actually, like, fully well, yes. She is. No. Yeah. She she belies me 100%. But she's the best thing in the entire world, like, the most amazing f**king kid in the world. She just knows how to get to me. But I've been wondering. I feel like Bo and I are, like, ships, like, just passing in the night where it's, like, one of us is on the baby, the other one is on Hartford. And it's like, when do we get to be us again? And then I look at you, and I'm like, you have 4. 4. Like, how do you, like, the like, I Well First of all, how do you even what car do you drive? Do you drive a bus? Like, literally, the way that I don't even know what car to drive with 2 kids. Like, what car do you drive? Well, remember, I have 2 in boosters now, so they're fine. But I have an extended Escalade, so big. Okay. Okay. And that's that fits everyone? Yeah. Do It fits everybody. But, like, these are, like, real things that I think about that I'm like, how do people with more than 2 kids get from a to z? How do they get anywhere at all? Because the cars okay. Let's just say you have your car, your your big Escalade that's long and feels like a bus Mhmm. Where do you put all of their their stuff? Because, like, is the trunk that big? Well, the trunk yeah. And the extended, it's big. Oh, so you really are driving a bus. But I am driving a I legit am driving a bus. I will say, though, with the dog now we have a dog. And you bring your dog everywhere too? Well, he's a well, I we just did, like, a little family trip to Manhattan Beach. We had to put the dog in the car, and that was a disaster. Like, we looked at each other, and Matthew was like, this Matthew was good with 2 kids. He was like, listen. We have another one. We won't fit in a 4 top. Like, that's a box top table. Not he's thinking of all these things. That's true and so smart. And yeah. 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Nutrafol.com spelled nutrafol.com, promo code straight up. That's nutrafol.com, promo code straight up. You know? At least you just said just now, you're like you feel like you're you are now getting to your prime. Like, your your the older ones can help you with the younger ones. So so how many years did that take? I'm asking for myself. Yeah. I mean, my youngest is 3. And I will say she's still somewhat a lot to handle, but she's got, like, a serious attitude that I'm working on. You know, when you get to the 3rd, maybe the second, I don't know, you get kind of lazy when it comes to parenting. Like, with that one, if she wanted something and one of her little sisters had it and she's screaming, like, give it to her. I mean, I did not care. And now it's catching up to her. She is not nice. She's a she's actually a bully, like you were saying about your daughter. So I'm having to reparent that one a little bit, which is kind of a struggle. But I told Matthew, I said, when she's 4, which is June, we'll be in a good place. But Matthew has to get a vasectomy because I can't this is I I can't do it. I feel you because then you're gonna start having to take 2 Escalades out. I mean, really, the the way the car thing the car situation is like my Roman Empire. I think about families in their cars all the time. Like, how the f**k is, like, the whole world just going and living their days with multiple children in, like, cars? I just don't get it. It's a to be honest, I don't like riding separate cars. Whenever he's like, we'll take 2 cars. I'm like, no. I don't wanna take 2 cars. I wanna be able to talk to an adult and still yell at my children. So I don't then we do have a sprinter, that is taken on certain yes. There you go. There you go, Kelly. You got you got a sprinter. That's what I mean. That's that's the a bus. That's the answer that I wanted to hear because thank you. Because I've been sitting here wondering, and that's honestly the only possible reasonable answer. Yeah. Now I've only driven the Sprinter a handful of times because it's kinda terrifying. My mom's a bus driver, so I feel like I come by it honestly. But yeah, she just she's bored. You know, she was a school teacher for, like, 25 years or 30 years. I was like, I'm out. But then got bored and went back. But I it's hard and it's also terrifying. And the fact that I can't get back to my kids is kind of a problem. So a lot of the times, like, Matthew will drive or we'll have someone else drive, and we'll be in the back with the kids. Yeah. Which you also don't really wanna be back there either. So it's kinda like, no. Which way do you go? I feel you. The struggle is real. So, basically, what you're saying is me and Bo aren't really going to, like, be, like, a full blown couple for, like, years years years. Try to date each other. It's all I'll say. I mean, it's hard. You know? You are. You're passing you're literally just, like, making it work and making whatever the best scenarios for those kids to make either of them, like, you know, be obviously healthy, all these things, and just to not cry, to get good rest. You're doing everything you can for them that you kind of forget about yourself and your significant other. And Matthew and I did that for a long time. And we had a really tough start with the children. I got some health stuff that kind of gave us a little pause and reset in our marriage and in our family life. Not that it was like our marriage are like terrible, but we weren't like communicating. We weren't dating each other. We were just kind of like getting through it, surviving the days, if you will. And then you look back at it and you're like, what do we do for each other during that time? We didn't do anything. And so This is a really important conversation to have because it's this is a universal conversation for parents everywhere. I feel like everyone can relate to this, making time for your significant other. And and not just, like, time, like, special time. Like like you say, like, dating your significant other. And I was reading about how you were really open about your postpartum experience and how there was, like, a really long stretch of time after you had kids where you were like, I did wouldn't even be naked in front of my husband. And the way that that hit because that has been me. Like, I'm over that hump now, but, like, the first couple months, maybe sometimes 3 months, like with Hartford, it took longer. I like when we were intimate, like, I had to be wearing, like, a corset thing around my stomach because I felt so insecure. There were there were ways for me that, like, I just couldn't be myself and I because I didn't feel comfortable with I didn't recognize myself that Yeah. It made me not the best partner because I'm like, no. I can't be naked and vulnerable in front of you. Yeah. And I agree, like and not having confidence when you're being intimate or when you're with your husband, it they can tell, you know, and then it plays into the intimacy and all this stuff. And I just like you. I mean, your body's changed so much. And again, this is something that everyone tells you to embrace, embrace, embrace. But it's really hard. Yes. And it's and I and I hate to sound shallow about it that you look in the mirror and your body looks completely different than it has looked your entire lives. And you're so and unfortunately, we live in a world where a lot of things are based on outer appearance and all of a sudden your outer appearance is not what it's been for the first twenty over What you're 30 something years of your life. Yeah. It's just not what you're used to. And it it feels like it's overnight because, like, at least when you were pregnant, you had your baby in you. So it's like Right. It's it's still hard, but you have that that reason. But then once your baby's out, it's all of a sudden, like, who is this person that I'm looking at in the mirror? And I'd like, I will die on this hill, like, and say, like, this is not shallow. And, like, I just, like, cannot I can't possibly agree with that. I know everyone like, the trolls will come out and say that, and they're like, all you guys focus on is, like, your weight and what you look like after birth. Like, you know, your body just did an amazing thing. Yeah. My body just did an amazing thing, but, like, this is something that every single f**king mom has thought about and worried about. And, like, even the ones that are typing saying that we're too shallow, they themselves had the same insecurities and thought about it just as much as we were because you just don't recognize yourself. No. And there's no way you look at a mirror and every time when you see all this stuff going on. And and it's boobs, stomach, everything. Right? It's just everything going on. There's no way that you don't look yourself at least one time ago. Wow. This this is I got to figure this. This is a lot. Like, this is not what I expected. Everyone's thought it. You might not have acted on it, but everyone's had that thought. And it is a hard thought. And not only that we've social media playing into the women that bounce back in a month. Yeah. A f**king 6 pack. I'm like, great. That Yeah. I mean, that makes me feel better. Awesome. I also know that my husband is seeing women bounce back. I mean, it's all over the place. Right? You see it on billboards. You see it on TV. You see it everywhere. These women that have babies and are immediately a size 0. And you're like, well, my husband is is my husband expecting that? Yeah. Is he thinking exactly. Because he's being s**t not like he can't help it. He is being served that content as well. We are all being served the same s**t that, wow, look at these women who look a week later like they were never pregnant. So when the men, the fathers are seeing this Mhmm. Like, they how could they not be a little influenced to think it, like, oh, it just must be like this for everyone, so therefore, it'll be like this for my partner also. I mean, I feel like I was influenced by like, I had to go through the thought, like, oh, I'll bounce back. And 8 months later, I'm looking at them, like, the hell? And then another one's in there. And I'm like, oh, great. And then that I'm like, my body is just completely different than it was. And and and I know that's what happens, but we also have to give each other space to, like Feel our feelings? Yes. Like, let us feel that without being, like, you should feel this way. You should yeah. I can't help how I feel. That's how I feel. So you can tell me I should feel differently, but it's not how I feel. Yeah. Like, you know what? I wanna be allowed to be really depressed by the fact that it looks like I had my belly button pierced before, but I haven't. It's just saggy. Like, I should have just gotten my belly button pierced back in the day. So I I sat there being like, I'm not gonna do this because then I'm gonna have, like, a hole forever. And, like, nope. Didn't matter. All I had to do was get pregnant. That's it. Yeah. Girl, same. I didn't get my belly button pierced when my mom would've killed me, but I also she told me. She's like, you get a piercing, you get pregnant, you're on this. So I didn't do it. And now you can't even see my belly button, so it doesn't matter. All this extra skin hanging over it. I'm like, great. Cheers. Thanks, mom. Yeah. Seriously. Well, how do you what do you feel like I mean, I know this is, like, such a it's a broad question, but, like, what do you feel like is one of the main, like, secret sauces to your marriage? Like, what what is some advice that you would give your daughters if if, you know, they when they get to the age where they start looking for their partner and you're like, this is really what has kept us engaged with each other, kept us, like, feeling close to each other, that sort of thing. I mean, I would say when they're trying to find a partner, I mean, I think their dad is a very good example of someone to for example for their future. He has his flaws, but he's a very good father. He's a very good husband. And I would say one of the main things I feel like Matthew and I do well, we do a lot of things not well, is we are always openly talking to each other. I mean, we both make mistakes left and right when it comes Yeah. To about anything and everything. But we're always open to talk to each other about it and just listen because I feel like sometimes, especially, like, I messed up and I'm sure your husband knows about it. Beginning of the season, I said something that came off really wrong on my podcast. Was it about him relating to players? Yes. Yes. Okay. Yes. So I got crushed on that. Obviously, I didn't mean anything. Like, not even that big of a f**king deal. Everyone needs to calm down. I think that's, like, really normal to say, like, someone of a certain age isn't connecting as much to people that are a decade younger. That is, like Yeah. That's just, like, human nature. So, like, I'm sorry. You had to go through that. Well, thank you. Well, now it's like Gen z, which is a totally different generation. Yeah. Yeah. It's just crazy. But, anyways, at the end of the day, like, he's hearing from media coaches, all these people. And I'm sitting there going, buck, buck, buck, buck, because it's not what I meant. And the first thing he did, he came home. He was like, hey, let's just go talk about it. He brought me into this office. We sat down. I continuously apologized. And he was like, I know you meant nothing by it. He's like, but we should like, let's talk about it. Like, what did you mean? What did you think? Just like, again, keeping those communication lines open so I don't feel like I'm alienated when I mess up from him. Yeah. And the same with him as well. That's really important. Yeah. This is like your partner. This is the person you should always have your back, no one, because those are the people that know you the best. So, like, if he would have been, like, I need a day. Even if he was, like, I need a day, I would have felt I like, I wouldn't have known where to go because that's No. That's I used to have a step up. I used to have a boyfriend that was like that that would punish me with silence, and it would go on days days days. And I think that that's so like, that little piece of advice that you just gave is so important. Because if anyone finds themselves in a relationship where you are being punished by being isolated and silenced, and that person doesn't talk to you for days, so you have to live in a house of, like, true discomfort for days upon days. Like, that's just, like, not the life that's not healthy. That, like, causes illnesses. As I say, it's, like, emotionally abusive to do stuff like that. Like, I and again, that's what I would say to my girls. Just so find someone who you can always talk to, who you're never scared to tell your, you know, biggest problems to you, the things you've done wrong to, because that's the person that is going to have your back and they'll be able to tell you theirs suits. You'll always be connected that way. So that's that would be, like, my main thing for them because in this world too where s**t can be taken out of context Yeah. Like, all the time. Right? Do you ever able to communicate. Do you ever get scared when you're doing your podcast that you're, like, f**k. I'm gonna say something that, like, I that's been a fear of mine my whole like, a really long time. We have that in common Girl. Where we say stupid s**t. All the time? Yeah. All the time. And, like, you even edit, and you're still just like, yeah. It looks good. Yeah. No. That'll be fine. Like, it'll be fine. No one will care. Like, that means nothing. Yeah. And then other people listen to it. Yeah. That's good. No one catches it, and then it comes out. And all of a sudden, it's everywhere, and you're like, oh, f**k. Yes. What did I say? No. Sometimes it literally makes me just be like, maybe I should just stop pot stop podcasting. Like, maybe I should just stop. Like, can I the way that things get blown out of proportion or taken the wrong way or, like, it's it's a lot? And I feel like you Stop. You're too good. You're too good. I can't stop. But I I feel like you you're kind of new to this. So, like, what you've you said you started the podcast, like, 3 years ago. Like, that is it's relatively new, meaning, like, because I've I've done this now for, like, 9 years. Like, how did you how'd you get tough? Like, how did you toughen up so fast? Detroit. Oh, that makes sense, actually. No. Like, you're right. To be honest, I I made some stupid comments there too, and I learned very quickly. Well, first of all, I just learned a lot in Detroit, but I just learned to choose my words better. Now I still f**k up all the time as I'm sure you were aware. Most of us do. But half the s**t I mean, I feel like we're so polarizing as a society that whatever you say is gonna get taken out and just put on one side, and then the other side's gonna freak out. I mean I agree. Half the s**t I say, I'm like, wait. Really? And if you start censoring censoring yourself, then you lose what makes you special to begin with. You know? Like, what Yeah. I don't want to listen to. I don't wanna follow. I don't wanna hear people who have, like, overthought everything that's gonna come out of their mouth. Like, I I wanna relate to some real s**t. And, like, that's what you do. Well, I mean, I totally agree too. Like, if someone's trying to please every person and you can tell, it gets exhausting. And like, I feel like I tried to do that. So in Michigan, I tried to please everyone and I lost sight of who I was. I'm like, wait, what do I stand for again? I don't even remember. So I think there's something to it. And again, Matthew and I always talk about is like there's ways to say things. I talk to somebody who says masculine and feminine language, which is crazy. There is a different type of language. Masculine, you're saying a lot of buts. Well, this but and then you get that dagger. You know? And feminine is you use and a lot. So, well, I support this and, so it's more feminine. It's like a more I don't know. Not a polarizing way to say things. So we should start saying and more, less buts. Less. Well, now if you really wanna drive the point home, I would use but. Yeah. But if you kinda just, you know, on that line, I would use and. I don't know. That's what I was told by someone, and it kinda makes sense. That's like relearning a new language all over again. Like, I love that idea. Love that philosophy, the, like, feminine and masculine, but there's no way I will be able to actually adopt that. It's like when people are like, you say like too much. I'm aware. There's nothing I can do about it. There's there's there's I I if I overthink if I think about it, then I won't be being myself. I won't be able to get the normal thoughts I have out properly. So just I have to just say like a lot. I totally agree. And we're probably gonna crush for calling it masculine and feminine language, but that's what someone was told. That's how it was described to me. You guys were just repeating what we've heard. Okay? Don't come for us. 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This deal is not available on the regular website. So go to hiyahealt.com/ Stasse and get your kids the full body nourishment they need to grow into healthy adults. And I love how you said learning a new, language, because right now, I'm learning new math for my, 1st graders. You'll hit this. So impressed by you? Wait. I've already voted no on that. Like, that is one part of parenting that I'm I will not be doing. I will be hiring a teacher. I already was bad at math growing up. Why why would I torture him? I'll get a tutor. I totally agree. But this is like adding and subtracting. And they are Okay. Teaching them differently. So I am sitting there, and I'm not kidding, girl. Matthew and I were we're for an hour with our twins. What was it last week? Doing f**king math homework. They're crying. We're like, I think, sweating because we're so confused on how you don't know. So, like, that's not how you teach it. It's so wildly different. It's so frustrating. So I yes, girl tutor because it ain't worth the stress that it brings. I am I'm not kidding. Can I ask you something about this? Okay. Do you ever think about the fact that, like, school's actually really hard, and it's kind of sad that our kids are, like, having to, like, march into their classroom and be, like, handed a test. And then it's like you they were starting to sweat because they wanna do a good job, and then they, like, turn it in, and then a teacher's gonna greet it and write on it, and then they're gonna get it back. Like, I think about this a lot, and my daughter's not even in, like, the test situation yet. But I'm like, it's actually hard to be a kid in school, and I can't believe kids everywhere are doing it. I mean, but we all did it. But but it's hard. Like, they're gonna have to write an essay. Like, they're gonna have to read a book, then go in and, like, not know what the prompt is. Okay? No. They're not gonna know. They're just gonna have to read the book, and then all of a sudden, it's gonna be like, in Pride and Prejudice, what was the theme that, like, mister Darcy, and they're gonna have to write a full blown essay on the spot? Like, I don't want that for them. It's sad. Now that you say it like that, it is kinda sad. But I will say, I mean, something to fill their time, 1. But, 2, I told Matthew, I was like, I mean, am I a really bad mom? If, like, one of the twins is really good at math and one of them is really good at English. If I just like, hey, test day, you take 2 English, you take 2 math because in the end, that's how you do it. They're not going to be. No, that's how you do it. I don't even can't even say the word of mathematician if they can't do math. So like, why are we hounding it down our throat with a and we have calculators now in computers. So why do we even care? Do you have I agree. It reminds me of that scene in Clueless, which I fully wholeheartedly I know it was supposed to be comedy and it but I took this to I'm I actually saw this scene and I'm like, makes sense. When Cher goes to her dad and shows him the good grade, and she's like, well, I argued my way. And he's like, I wouldn't be prouder as if they were based off real grades. I'm like, yeah. You found a way to make it happen. Not all of us are gonna have to be good at math, but like, how genius to trick the system? That means you're gonna be good at something else, something better about tricking a system. That's what I was gonna say. Good on you for being creative. Yeah. So you're gonna go further than all the people that are making straight a's. I can tell you that much. So I know. Have your twins switch spots? What do they think about it? Have you brought it up to them? Well, neither of them are good at either yet, so we're gonna have to figure that out. I love this to death. We'll get there. We're just not quite there yet. We got there now. Day, they'll be able to cheat and lie and steal. Just not today. One day, we will know what 4 plus 4 is, but just not today. I mean, it's crazy, but, you know, it's either get there. But Well, well, speaking of your children, I was just reading about how you guys got booed, which, like, I have a lot of thoughts on this because I watched the Beckham documentary and, like, really felt some things. And I know that, like Such a good documentary. Right. Ship. It just I know it's not football, but it's just like the relationship between fans of a sport and the sports play the athlete and and how they treat their families, their children, their wives, like, all of that. It just it's so insane to me that when I heard that you're like, you walk out there, I understand, like, maybe, actually no. I don't understand you getting booed. Like, you're not the player. Like, you shouldn't get booed. But the fact that your children had to walk out with you, all 4 of your girls, and your children got booed, Like, does that hap does that happen on a regular basis, or was was this like a special instance? I mean, I think it was a special instance just because of the fact that Detroit's never hasn't been in that position in a long time for 1. 2, we were coming back. But that's also your home. That's, like, kind of your home too. Like, to be booed by your people. Yeah. And I say nothing because it's true. I say nothing but great things about that place because that place is awesome. The people are awesome. For Matthew, I didn't expect to see I didn't expect any of that. I expected him to get booed, which he did when he ran out with the quarterbacks. Everyone was like, oh, no. We booed the team. I was like, my husband ran out solo for warm ups, and that was probably the loudest boot we heard all game, which is fine. This is a competitive nature. It's a sport. But when I walked out with my girls, I think they were all booing me, which it's hard to explain to your 6 and under children that you're being rude. Yeah. It's okay, girls. They're bullying mommy. Don't worry about it. And they're like, wait. What? But why? And it was, like, heckled, kind of just, like, pointing and and things like that. And listen, it doesn't take away from all the fans that are great there, but those fans are usually louder. The ones that are doing and playing things. And the ones that are all into the game. That's that's how it is, like, in anything. Yeah. Yes. But, like, to be honest, I had 2 of them crying, because my little my 3 year old was terrified. She's kind of fearful to begin with. And then everyone was like, well, why would you bring your kids down on that field? First of all, to see their dad play. What? What do you mean? It's very normal. This is and we don't do it much because I don't really love the sidelines. There's a lot of politics, and there's just, like, a lot of things going on the sidelines. And I'm not usually the person that likes to be down there. But we're coming back. I said we're coming back home. I mean, Detroit was our home and wanted to see Martha Ford. And so we knew, like, we connected before to say we'd meet on the field. And so we got to see her and that was great. But I don't know if it made up for what my girls kind of endured down there. I mean, I had to explain certain words to them or explain around them. Oh, my gosh. You didn't even think about that. Yeah. And so and they've heard a lot of words because I'm not saying Matthew and I are very friendly with our words. I mean, they know they're adult words and they cannot use them. But there were certain words thrown our way that they had never heard before. And my 5 year old is very, very curious, and so she asks a lot of questions. But yeah, I, I was a little surprised of, I guess, the situation. But you know what? At the end of the day, you just got to move forward. And I told myself to in Matthew again, we sat down. We had a conversation because he came over to take a picture and say hello with us. And he got pissed because everyone was booing that. And he was like, I can't believe they're booing our family. And I was like, oh, you don't know the ins and outs of it right now, but we're not going to even go there. And so I don't know. We had an open conversation and we had to remind ourselves, like, yes, that was home for 12 years. And I feel like for me, that game gave me a really good closure because I held on to that place. And I and I will always love that place and cherish the memories I made there. But I was holding on to it in a probably unhealthy way, which wasn't allowing me to really live here. Like, open my heart to this place. Yeah. So you know what? In the end, it was actually a really good thing that happened. They did you a favor. It did. It gave me it gave me closure there. And not that again, I'm going to love it. I will always cherish that place, and I will go back, probably never go back for a game. But we have a school center there and things like that. So we'll go back there and see it. But at the end of the day, it was a good thing for me. So nay. Not my girls. After me, it was great. Do people treat you that way? Like, does that happen when when you're just out and about? Are people awful to your face ever? No. No. They're not. Now there has been to Matthew, but never to me. Okay. That's really good news because I would think that if you are being booed by your old hometown like, you're not your hometown, like, where you grew up, but, like, you 12 years is like another hometown. Like, I would think that, like, then that was happening on the street, and that would just that's it it's that's just dark. Yeah. Yeah. No. I honestly, no one knows, who I am besides if I'm on the sidelines. So I I fly under the radar there. But the in Detroit in general, like before the game, everything, everyone was very kind. And again, I think it was just those those fans are always louder. And so you hear those. And I felt like every fan who was saying thank you and and thank you to your family or thank you to Matthew, I would look up and make sure I try and find those people who are being so kind. Yeah. But everyone was great. Honestly, that week one was great. It was just before the game walking around, and we ended up on the wrong damn side. So we had to walk all the way around on the grass in front of the guys. Marie Antoinette being, like, paraded to the guillotine or something. Like, you had to, like, wow. But, like, I just put a letter on. I was like, yeah. I know. And you had to do a walk. That's that's that's rough. I'm really sorry that you had to do that. No. It was you know, it's fine again. And at the end of the day, it it did. It gave me some closure to to a something that I needed closure to because it's so fast. Yeah. You know? So do you feel like LA is your you guys are gonna stay in LA? Do you love LA? You can you can lie if you don't like it. I don't really it's I don't own LA. So It's okay. You know what? I had my thoughts before coming here, as everyone does about every state in general. And is Yeah. I feel our city and was so pleasantly surprised. We love it here. I mean, the weather is great, but we've found an amazing community of people that we adore and have become some of our best friends and that are, like, very much like us, young kids. They're also younger. Actually, a bunch of them used to either play or played something or owned I don't know. It's just it's a good community. And I don't I don't see us leaving. So I think it'll be here. That's amazing. I'm so happy for you. Thank you. I know. I know. That has to be a good feeling because, like, to like, the unknown, I feel like is, like, is worse than even being stuck in a place that you might not like. It's the unknown of of not knowing where your family's gonna end up. So to have that to be sure of that, that's great. Yes. It's honestly it's a really grounding feeling to to know that and to know my kids will be growing up here, going to high school here. So, yeah, it's it's it's really nice because even when we're in Detroit, we didn't know, you know, if we were going to stay there or because our kids started to go to school there. Yeah. Or if we move back to Atlanta because that was always kind of the plan because that's where I'm from, and that's where we met. But we love it here, so we'll be here. That's so great. Beau and I are gonna start hatching our plan so that our 3 year olds can can be friends. We're just we're gonna start manipulating the situation. We're gonna show up places that you're at. Girl, y'all Yeah. Y'all just you know what? Y'all just bring her to a game because I bring all mine. She can just hang out with mine. And now we haven't we haven't done that yet. No. Yeah. You need to. Well, I I feel like now she's at the age now maybe, like, where we well, next or next season, like, we would be able to. But, like, before, she just, like, is restless. I'd be running around after her that, like, it wouldn't have been fun for me. It's not worth it. I mean, Tyler didn't come Matthew's entire 1st year here, and she was too closer to the 2. And Yeah. It's not worth it. I love her. Her first her first ever football game, Super Bowl. Wow. What a boojie experience. You're like, it goes downhill from Yeah. I know. You're, like, setting her up for failure with that. Like, did you think that went through at all, or you're just, like, YOLO? I mean, I was like, you know what? Matthew might only get here once. We gotta take the whole family, which was a lot. Really good point, though. Before I let you go, I really do wanna ask you about the morning after. And I I wanna know what it's like in your house when you win and when you lose. Like, what like, does like, do the kids know? Like, like, oh, we can't go talk to to dad for a couple of days. Well, no. I will say before kids, it was Matthew would, like, put himself in his room right when we got home. Honestly, he'd be hard to talk to for a few days. That was also really tough in our marriage. So I was like, f**k. Yeah. I I think more WAGs need to talk about that because, like, I imagine, like, it's really difficult. And I understand both sides. Both side, the athlete and the significant other, like, I I get it. Yes. And what people don't also understand is, like, usually, you're moving for your Cinderella to whatever team he's playing for. So if he has a bad game or if they lose or whatever and they they just put themselves in the room, don't wanna talk to anyone or you, you're very lonely. And you're like Yeah. Well, what am I gonna do today? Now, though, with the girls, it's actually very comical, which is sad to say. But when he loses and if he loses, if the girls are there, they obviously know. But if they're watching on TV, I'm like, oh, yeah, we lost. And he'll come home or he'll come up to the suite after the game. And they'll be like, daddy, maybe you should have tried harder. And he's like, thanks, ladies. And he'll look at me like, oh, this is like I mean, maybe you should practice longer. Savage. You just I mean, you just realized right there, Mary, like, you know what? This doesn't this isn't the end of the world. This is a small part of my life. These girls are like he gets over it very quickly now. Like, he's up in the suite. We lose, and he's like, the girls come to him, and it's that's it. Well, it's easy to get over when you've won the Super Bowl. Yeah. That's true too. Right. Could you imagine? We talked to him. Like, could you imagine if we came here that 1st year and did not win it? And that would That would be that'd be depressing. And then, like, every time you lose, then and your kid looks at you and is like, you should have tried harder. I'd be like, yeah. Wow. Okay. I'm just gonna throw myself off my house right now. Like Yeah. Yeah. Like he Yeah. I mean, it is. But when we win, it is a big difference in, and I feel like I can speak on a lot of professional athletes, significant others in this way of like when you win, that week is so much better. Yeah. It's just like things are happier. It's not this looming because you have to wait now. And based on something like that, the games are so quick. But But in football, you have to wait a whole another week until the next one, and you lose that Really? Because it feels like football's on every single f**king night. But really does. Like, it was even on Christmas this year. Like, what? I was literally Christmas brunch and Bo's watching football. Like, when did that happen? I love you. Because me, I'm, like, so happy that football's on every night. Now that we're down the end of this season, I'm like, what am I gonna watch? Nothing to watch. But no. Yeah. It is on every f**king night, but it usually it's usually 7 days apart for your games. I guess, technically, yeah, the game. The the team. The team, it's 7 days apart for, like, each team. Each team. Yeah. So, like, that if they lose 1, Matthew's got 7 more days. Now if they lose another one, it's like, oh, 7 more days. Girl, I think we were, like, 36 this year going into our bi week, which talk about a s**tty buy. Supposed to have a good another language. Yeah. Okay. So bi week is the off week. Every team gets one off week. And I see here that? Oh, you mean every t every team. So it's not just like 1 okay. Yeah. So it's yeah. So each each team, like, a couple teams are designated a certain off week. So we were 3 and 6 going by. We won 3 games. We had lost 6. Ugh. By weeks, when there's a bunch of losing in front of it, It's supposed to be, like, the week to get away Yeah. Separate yourself. Oh, girl. This one was depressing. I was like, oh, man. And we've had them before, but, you know, this one guys do you just sulk around the the house? Like, cancel plans? You know, like, we're if he's winning, we usually have a great bi week. I don't know. Well, we might shoot down to Cabo for 3 days. We might we're losing. We hoard ourselves in the house. We're just, like Yeah. I would think stepping on needles trying not to mess up. I'm like, you good? Yeah. I would just think that, like, if you were losing and you have bi week thank you for teaching me something. I've never I've, yeah, I've never okay. I feel so knowledgeable. I feel so splurty right now. I would just think that, like for Beau. Yeah. The only way to, like, make yourself feel better would be to, like, go drown your sorrows in Mexico. So, like, I would say, like, go to Mexico either way. Either way. I know. I know. But something like, when they're, like, down, they're, like, don't have the energy to even go. So then we're I'm, like, great. So we're stuck in this house, which I'm always stuck in this house with the children. Yeah. So now we're just both stuck in the house. Yeah. So that's I feel you. You know. Also, do you ever look at fans and say, you guys, this isn't f**king personal. Do you know how many times I have to tell Beau this? When I hear Beau yelling at the screen, I can't believe he just did blah blah blah or whatever. I'm like, this man did not fumble the ball, I think everyone just said that, to hurt your feelings. This is not about you. This isn't about you. I know. It's tough for me to say because I don't want all these fans coming out to me, but I feel like professional athletes, they all are kinda the same. They are playing for the people on that field. They want to win the city 1 or they want to win all these fans 1. But during that game, they don't care about anyone else. But I would have been that field. I feel like that's the only way to, like, properly do your job and play your sport is to, like, not care about that sort of thing. Have to because you hear but also another thing is it's funny because people are always like, why do you throw that pic? Why would you throw that? And that is going, guys, I'm f**king pissed I threw it too. I think I'm madder than you are that I threw it. Yes, sir. I I I say this to Bo too. This this is 2 parts. 2 parts. 1, when he's like, why did he choose to do this? Like, why don't like like Bo knows better. Like, he knows f**king better. Okay? So, like, there's like that part of it. Like, okay. I'm pretty sure this athlete just made the best decision he possibly could given the fact that he's the expert here. Okay? Not us. Not us. So there's that part. But then the second part is, the way that you feel right now, Beau, he 100% feels a 1000000 times more strongly about it. Okay? So, like, we're all in this together. And also, even on top of that is Beau's one out of however many fans are thinking that. And, you know, all these guys know that. So they're like, so down on themselves and they're just sad. All the fans are like, oh, but you know what? This is what I kind of remind my husband and remind that's kind of what you get paid for. Yeah. Like, at the end of the day, you're getting paid to play a game that you love. You have to deal with what comes with it because that's that's really what you're getting paid for at the end of the day. Because those people are paying to get there. So those are who are paying you. So you just kinda gotta f**king rough it out and deal with it. Matthew does a really good job. I f**king suck at it. He can bury everything and not even go out. The significant others on the behalf of the other one. It's even like that with me and Bo. Bo get Yeah. Get has more feelings for situations that I'm in, where I'm like, I can handle it, but he gets upset on my behalf. You know, I think that's just like a relationship thing. What what I feel like you love yeah. You wanna fight the battles for the people you love, especially when you see them not fight, like, that they can't fight them, you know, that they're not allowed to fight them. So They're not allowed to fight specifically. Yes. Yes. For sure. And it's it's tough to stay silent in the news because that's literally your person. So, I mean, I feel like I'm very kind of known for probably going after people, and that's not good. I've tried to stop, but it's hard. I like it. You're spicy, and you are just defending your person. I know. I I like it. Kelly, this was so much fun. I could literally do this for, like, freaking 2 more hours. Like I totally agree, girl. Thank you so much for coming on the pod. We need to get more Rams fans. The Rams have, like, the least amount of fans ever, I've realized. I feel like it's it's Beau. That's what I said. Or or one way of that. No. I agree with you. I think the team moving back and forth made it hard. If they Of course. They're gonna stay here for a long time, they're gonna get these fans. I mean, years to come, they're gonna have more and more and more. So as long as they can continue to stay good, they'll be the fans that are loyal and LA Rams fans, but it's tough when an organization moves so much to have this. It'll be like it'll be the next generation. It'll be like our it'll be our children. Like, that that's gonna be the Rams fans. I can't even talk to you about football so much. Like, it's actually kind of wild. To be honest, part of me hates that you said the next generation is our kids gonna be Rams fans. Oh my god. Bless it. We're old. So they well, I promise I'm done after this. But at Ramsdans, when you come, they do a throwback of the decades or something. And it's always our ticket. And I'm like, we're the throwbacks? Like, we are the legit old people at the stadium. Oh, wow. When you used to go to sporting events, it would be like, I don't know, The Temptations, and that was the throwback. The song yeah. Now it's like Usher and, like, our Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. They're like they're like, no. That's not a throw that's crazy. Throwback. So when you guys come to your game and you'll bring it'll be fun. Bring your daughter. We'll all do the suite together. It's easier. They can all run around up there, but, you'll you'll, you'll hear their throwbacks and immediately just be depressed. Oh my god. My gosh. Well, you know, at least we'll be in it together. Just But and we're in our prime. 30. Yeah. We're in our prime. Keep the same. We're in our prime. I'm not there yet. I'm not there. Once Messer turns, like, maybe, like, one and a half, I feel like I'll I'll start feeling like I'm cool again. Like, I can do some things. Right now, I'm not. No. I feel like you are. I just don't feel like it. Feel like you are. I'd I'd like to go and have some fun. Yes. You know what? Your feelings are your feelings, and I can't make you feel better. Thank you for validating that. Thank you for validating my feelings. Yes, girl. Kelly, this was so much fun. Y'all go listen to her podcast the morning after. Go follow her on Instagram. It's kbstafford 87. 89. Yeah. 89. Oh, yeah. 89 because, again, you're 1 year younger than me. So there's that. Yes, ma'am. Thank you so much. I cannot wait to go upstairs and just give Beau a big hug. He's just like I know, just like waiting for me to tell him all the things. And I hope I get to hang out with you. I would love that. And tell, tell him I say hello. And, yeah, let's we'll we'll we'll do a Graham's game this coming year. It'll be fun. I would love that. Alright, girl. I'll talk to you soon. Alright. Bye. Thanks.
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