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Hello, and welcome back to Even More News, the first and only news podcast. My name is Katie Stoll. Hi, Katie Stoll. Thanks for well but welcome No. That's good. Keep going. For welcoming me and me specifically to the podcast. I'm doing great. I'm speaking clearly. I'm articulating. I'm enunciating. We're doing great. We're just getting started that you're just warming up. It feels like it's been forever since we've been here, but it's only been a week. It's only been a week. I'm warmed up from last week already. But it has been a minute since we've had our guest on, and we're very excited to welcome back the cohost of the podcast, You Are Good, Alex Steed. Hello. Hello. What a delight to be here with you. The last time we talked, Nikki Haley seemed like she might be an option. And now we're in a much different place. But it's also Isn't that the same place. It's the exact same place. Same place. Anyway. We're gonna talk to you about that right after the holidays because that's literally something I we wanted to to bring up. But we do have some holidays to celebrate first. Goodness. Thank goodness. And, honestly, kinda into both of them today, so buckle up. Okay. May 10th. Friday, May 10th. This is National Shrimp Day. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. National Day calendar can be used researching. Food. Yeah. Oh. How dare you? It's the vegetarian. We like we like How dare you? Our short kings. Our shrimp good kings. That's right. National day calendar continues researching the origins of the seafood holiday. No matter how we celebrate, though, we won't skimp on the shrimp. Wait. Is that it? Yeah. Continues researching? Yeah. This is a weird sentence for sure. Been doing that? How are you gonna be researching the origins of this day? Also, don't they get to decide they have to do? They're excavating the library of Alexandretta to try to find the origins of National Shrimp Day. Don't be discouraged if there are any things. When it proclaimed it. So look. Yeah. Yeah. I used to be a vegetarian for a long time and then started introducing some protein. And I'm mostly pescatarian at this point. Mhmm. Mostly plant based, but then I'll eat seafood. But and I I feel great. I don't need people chiming in on my diet. But, I my sister-in-law told me to do this, and I find it to be an incredible hack as I buy a bag of the cooked frozen shrimp and keep it in the freezer, obvi, and then defrost some when I'm making a quick dinner. So, like, a a shrimp pasta or a stir fry or something like that. And I have found it to be very easy. Okay. Go out there and get a big bag of shrimp, folks. So make a maybe I'll make some thawed Maybe shrimp tacos. Kamala was celebrating early. Shrimp and grits. Shrimp and grits for shrimp and grits day. So we all saw that. Jonathan, it doesn't look like you saw it. You saw it? No. Alex, did you see this? No. It's fine. It's fine. I already talked about this earlier. This week on a different podcast, so I'll keep this very brief. Kamlo came out of a restaurant, and she was holding a bag. And she was asked about Gaza, and she said shrimp and grits. I would argue that's not how it happened. She came out and immediately said, I I got tripping grits like you asked me before I went in. And then as she was saying that, somebody was asking a question. She didn't answer. She got in the car. She went away. It's funny. The person who was asking that question was Eric Garcia, which is funny too. We've been on our show before. Oh, that's I'm confident. Full circle. Full circle. I wish you heard the question. And then May 11th, National Dog Moms Day. Oh, good. So I'm expecting the flowers in the mail, everybody. I'm I'm assuming I don't know. Check that the day before Mother's Day is National Dog Mom's Day. It's like, the amount of times not okay. Not all the time, but I've certainly heard the comment, like, me doting on my dog, you know, pets aren't the same as children. I know that. People know that. People know that. Know that. Some people do. You would be every time I meet and because I have a a son who's just over a year old, and every time I talk to someone about what he's going through, someone who has a dog will be like, yes. They're at about the same intelligence level as my Muffy right now. They're doing just what Ruddigur is doing. And I'm like, stop comparing your dog to my human being. And I love dogs, but it's made me become a One of those types? It's be yeah. I'm coming from someone who doesn't like dogs because everyone's trying to compare them to my flesh and blood. I will never do that to your dog. Do that. Although, my dog Although, my dog. I mean, he is a human trapped in a dog's body, so is Maggie. Mhmm. No. Benny's a dog through and through. Anyway, I you maybe are confirming my suspicions that maybe some moms out there might be a little resentful that us dog moms claimed the day before The day before. Yeah. They're first. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Okay. Are we gonna talk about queen of dog moms? Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. We'll talk about her later. Really good dog momming on there. Okay. Alex, as you brought up, the last time you were here on the show This show? We this one. Yeah. This one. Recap the first republican presidential debate. Yeah. We were talking about Ron DeSantis Mhmm. Tim Scott, Nikki Haley, and Vivek rhymes with cake. Rhymes with cake. Kamashwami. Was it a waste of time or an extreme waste of time? I like, if you just now were were if part of that intro is like a quiz and you were like, who was at the debate? I would have gotten 2 names, maybe, correctly. I I these these have already burned out of my what is Vivek doing? Is he is he boiling animals somewhere? Like, what is he up to? I don't know if he's vying for VP. Out there. I he's still vying for VP slash podcast on Daily Wire. Yeah. He I'll just read I'll just read this tweet that he tweeted yesterday about his his podcast or some podcast he's doing called Truth. Unbelievable, Vivek. First of all, pathetic name for your podcast. What is it called? The Truth Podcast. Oh, I thought you said truth. No. Truth. As in as in the president's, the president's, like, social media whatever. It's truth. All caps period is their logo. Pathetic stuff. Really silly. Anyway oh, god. Okay. So he had Ann Coulter on, and, here's his tweet about how that went. It's his pinned tweet, by the way. Ann Coulter told me flat out to my face that she couldn't vote for me because you're an Indian, even though she agreed with me more than most other candidates. I disagree with her, but respect she had the guts to speak her mind. It was a riveting hour. The truth podcast is Yikes. That's what I said. Yeah. Yikes. But you know, he's been having the important conversations of whether or not in culture will vote for him because he's Indian or because he's not Indian enough. I don't know what her opinion is about that. That's gotta not feel good on some level, man. Probably. I mean, a lot of the voters during the time when he was pretending to think he could be the president said the exact same thing about him. And, you know, it's gotta be tough to hear and, to be in a party that, like, really accepts that kind of, like, viewpoint. But at certain points, like, look around, Vivek. What do you, like, what do you think you're Respect. Doing? I don't know. Is he worried he's gonna lose his podcast if he calls her a racist? Like, is that what his concern is? Because otherwise, why not just call her a racist? Weird. I don't know. I think that it probably he's gotta play to the audience, and I think his audience that he's chasing here would like to be let off the hook for saying something that most people would consider quite racist. You know? Yeah. It's very odd because also, like, who's really, like, wheeling out Ann Coulter to, like, get her opinion on stuff in 2024? So, like, it's okay to not respect Ann Coulter for saying out loud that she's racist. What's the line calculus? I mean, we've learned recently that it's don't brag about shooting a dog. But, like, what is like, what do you think the calculus is when people do this sort of thing? Like, who are they worried about burning? Who are they worried at coming coming at it seems like no one is really worried about whole a whole lot aside from, again, bragging about shooting dogs. But, like, I don't I don't what is the line calculus that you think people people typically do in this case? Yeah. I mean, I think for, like, Vivek, specifically probably, and a a lot of people, about this kind of stuff, Sadly, it's kind of like Twitter blue stuff. It's like it's like online stuff. Because I feel like whenever I see anybody in that camp, like, point out just, like, this is kinda racist or, like, I don't like this. The Babylon Bee every once in a while will post something that's like, Nazis are bad, And their comments get flooded with like, hey. I thought you were, on the right side or whatever. Like, this sort of baffled response of, like, wait a second. I thought we were all saying the same thing. And I think some of this is just sort of, like, avoiding that kind of backlash because it can't be like like, oh, good. Ann Coulter was on and was racist, and he didn't, like, tell her that. So now you get to have Steve Saylor on your podcast and or, like, what's the yeah. What is the goal there? But I don't know. I'm not sure there is a line calculus. Yeah. I'm not happy about any of the people who are going to be president, but I'm happy he's not going to be the president. He's not. Yeah. He's someone I just want to see. He's like a twerp. He's like a classic eighties eighties movie twerp. He's like a like the like the sex pest brother from like an eighties movie. Although he exudes none of that. He just he has a different kind of twerpiness and I I The energy. Yeah. Yeah. He has that energy and I just want to see him fail. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I do think we get to, but we'll see. No twerps in our White House or our podcasts or whatever he's gonna be doing. Our our Twitter circles. You hear that? That's a learning sound. You know, the human mouth can do a lot of great and terrible things. Recite poetry, eat mice, and everything in between. But if your mouth can only speak one language, well, that's a real mice eating shame. With Babbel, you can skip pricey tutors and classes and use their language learning app instead. 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I would say it like that. Okay. Well, I suppose we should do the thing that we are all gathered here today to do. Get married. No. Okay. No. No. No. No. It was just the sentence gathered here today throwing in a joke before we get into some heavy news. So there's no okay. So we don't have to do that. Okay. No. None of you I mean, did none of us got a fish became an efficient. So or prepared or wrote vows or anything. I didn't back in there. That Universal Life Church. Oh. Yeah. Okay. Good to know. Mhmm. We're gonna start off talking about Gaza, a few different stories, and talking about the protests some more. So, Jonathan, throwing to you. Yeah. There are a lot of updates here. Israel, earlier this week, seized the Rafa crossing on the border of Gaza and Egypt. It is initiating its, assault in that area, which we've known is coming for a long time where a 1000000 Palestinians have sought refuge. The WHO says that the city's health care facilities only has a few days of fuel left. The largest hospital in the area has ceased operations. The WHO as well as the UNRWA are begging Israel to reopen the border crossing so that aid can get in there. Meanwhile, president Biden, who has, I guess, to his credit, said that an incursion into Rafa would be a bad idea for a while. He withheld a shipment of yeah. Do you wanna Use some moss. Use some moss. No. It's a ma*s. We know that now. Keep going. President Biden withheld a shipment of 35100 heavy bombs to Israel. In response, in a CNN interview, he admitted that American weapons have been used to kill civilians. He says if they go into Rafa, I'm not supplying the weapons that have been used historically to deal with Rafa, to deal with the cities, to deal with that problem. It's just wrong. So I'm sorry. But we have been supplying them with weapons. I mean, of course, they're still using our weapons. Still using our weapons, just not Not the new ones. Specific ones. Also, like, it's so interesting hearing him talk. The phrase, I'm not supplying the weapons that have been used historically to deal with this. Like, historically. You mean, like, for the past 6 months? Like Yeah. He does need that. It's like it's like very like, just the language is very distancing, and I wonder if that's purposefully distancing or if that's just how he talks, but, it's an odd phrasing. Much like with Trump, it feels like you're trying to interpret what he means to say. Because when you because that struck me too listening to him say this to to Aaron Burnett on CNN. It's like, his what do you mean by that historically? Oh, you're just talking. Right. He's just talking or is it a calculated, like, no. I need to distance myself from this rhetorically for, you know, whatever secret reasons he has, privately stewing in the warehouse. Is a interesting move that is unpopular with everyone for different reasons. Yeah. There's no wedding in this guy. Maybe he's likely to appease the people who have been calling for him to with all withhold aid for months because we don't know if he's gonna continue doing that, if this is part of a broader trend. And, of course, all the pro Israel people are now like, Biden's Hamas. Biden's a Hamas lover. Yeah. I've never seen I've truly I mean, it's not surprising, but, like, I just truly have not seen someone less equipped for a moment. Oh, yeah. And I understand how I understand that, like, to make every there is no make everyone happy in this situation very obviously and very sort of understandably considering the the the history of factions of support, etcetera, that exist. But I they are just so out of their league right now with regard to making anybody happy with any statement. And it's it's, you know, as a person who does not want Trump to win, this is a lot to watch every day outside of the existing obvious horror of the situation. It's alarming. It's concerning. Yeah. He is very uniquely, just god. Just god awful, here. And, it's wild to see because also, like, you know, how long is is he gonna cave? Because also, like, the response to this, from Netanyahu seems to be, like, f**k you. I don't give a s**t. We're doing it. Right. And, you know, whether, like, that could lead to withholding more or just like, okay, I guess it's gonna happen anyway. So I guess we'll help you. It'll be interesting because if this, you know, there's if it does deter at all, you know, it would have been nice if this happened 6 months ago. Right. The the But if it doesn't, like Lance. Yeah. Then it's also like, well, see, you were wrong. We should he shouldn't have done it at all. Like, there's no world where this is, like, gonna I don't know. At this point, it's largely symbolic because we've been supplying them with weapons and aids. It's largely symbolic unless we do this full divestment that so many people have been asking for. They already have all the weapons. We talked about how for various reasons Netanyahu needs to keep the war going because of Israeli politics. He's out for some reason if he can't keep this war going. I think he's out anyway. So but right. Well, that's the thing. If the war is if there's no war, then he can't like, he he is out. Right? And he will have not accomplished the thing he's been wanting to accomplish the whole time. Yeah. So, like, obviously, it's good that we're not giving him the £2,000 bombs to drop on this place. It's still awful what's going on there, and it's But we've also we didn't give him the that this specific shipment, give him plenty, and we've also given Cover for the I'm saying, like, the whole thing we've allowed, and we are continuing to allow it to happen. And they're whether we give them the bombs or not, he knows that Biden's also not going to do anything to stop him in any capacity. Like, basically, give him permission. I saw like, obviously, the pro Israel people aren't going to be happy, that they're not getting all the bombs they want. I saw someone say, maybe this was Ari Fleischer, but, Cody, you might know who who's who wrote this that or maybe it was Jonah Goldberg, I think, who said, well, if we're not giving them these, like, these super precision bombs, they're just gonna use the non precision bombs, and that's gonna be even worse. Isn't it? And, of course, to understand that, you have to ignore the last 7 months of of super tight precision in terms of targeting. Exactly. Yeah. I'm pretty sure those are a flash here. I did see the exact same thing. There have been a lot of very interesting, tweets from people, reacting to this in totally normal ways. Well, because now it's too late for him to, like he can't, like, play both sides anymore. He can't say we still are supporting Israel and my position isn't changing, but also we're going to withhold a few bombs here and there to appease people. Like, you're into deep man. Right. Yeah. Like, you're because you're not and you're not appeasing anybody. Yeah. You're genocide Joe or a Hamas lover. And, also, like, it doesn't seem to be like, it's not necessarily in even in response to, like, the protest because he's been signaling privately, for a while that this might, be something that he would do, to some degree. So it's not even, like, protesters, I hear you. Because, like, even after, in his speech about the protests, he came out and was asked, like, has this changed your position? And he said flat out no, and then he left. So it's not even addressing that. It's just this little, like, little move that won't really do anything, and then we'll probably end up giving them to them anyway. Yeah. It is it it is it is a surreal moment for sure, a continued surreal moment. My my, brother goes to USC. He just finished his freshman year, and USC is one of the campuses that is, you know, struggling to deal with protests, I would say. Yeah. And he says the attitude right now across students that he knows of any sort of ideological, perspective is that they're that they're they're the president is not handling things especially well on campus, and then the president overall is not handling things especially well. Yeah. It's wild. Like, just from the top down, just like no no part of this is being handled. A lot of radicalization happening this year, though. Yes. Everywhere. Yes. We love election years. And, of course, this, assault on Rafa is hugely impactful for the civilians that have been told to go there to be safe and now are about to be under attack without access to aid. And people are continuing to starve and not have medical treatment or it's f**king bad. Yeah. But they were told to go there. But they were told to go there. That's something I'd like the president to point out sometime. Mhmm. Not that that these weapons have historically been used. Like, like what a what a guy. Yeah. I guess that's kind of my it's like we there's very little mention of that or concern about that element of this from the president. Well, that's I mean, in a way, I mean, that's the frustrating as anyone, you know, who is interested in ideological consistency and is annoyed by hypocrisy, these moments are especially difficult. But, like, the watching the fact that the biggest issue right now is student protesters. Like the largest issue is students asking for bad things to not happen elsewhere. Right. I'm all for the pro I'm 1,000 percent for the protests. And also, I know that cynical sort of careers, hypocritical politicians will use those protests as a means of saying, like, this is the problem. This is the problem. This is the problem because it's immediate, and in front of in or sort of on the news, not the thing that we are enabling by way of foreign policy. And I don't I never know what to do with that. I don't know what to do with that. It's frustrating. It's like you kinda have to, to a certain extent, ignore it and, like, let to hope that it gets drowned out because that's always gonna be the case. There's always gonna be this, like, this distraction used to to distract even more, to point to, like, oh, again, you know, they've obviously written for years years years since the, like, dawn of time, college college campuses or 2, whatever they called woke in the 19 twenties. Highfalutin'. Exactly. These highfalutin' Libs on campus. But, yeah, it's like, it's always gonna be used like that. And at a certain point, I'm just like over it and like tired. Like, I'm not even gonna engage with this and argue because you're not here to argue. We have all these, like, people going to protests being like, why are you here? Look it up. It's available. That information is available. There's no like mystery to why these protests are going on. But it's just used to Yeah. Dismiss from everything else. It is. And I want everybody to know that I agree completely with the things that are said, and I recognize that. I do I'll just be honest to everyone, say that I struggle sometimes. I don't wanna dismiss that there are some there may be some incidents for certain students where things are heated and they feel uncomfortable in some capacity. And I'm tentative about even bringing this up because I don't wanna contribute to a narrative that is, you know fall into a narrative that is meant to dismiss the protests. I am so 1000% behind them. And but, you know, I want to create space for the fact that I've I do have friends. People on here have heard me reference conversations to people. I did it last week. And this isn't somebody I'm talking about who is very bad faith in their arguments. But people who are very pro Palestine and anti Netanyahu and what's happening, and genuinely feel kind of scared with the stuff that they're seeing shared. And I think that that is also the media playing it up. You know, there was this one article, I saw this morning in the LA Times about, you know, you know, are you a Zionist? Checkpoints at UCLA, Encampment Provoked Fear Among Jews or whatever. And there's some dishonest framing in there. You know, I think that one of the students maybe was provoking, but I don't I mean, so many of those are dialysis. I just don't wanna outright dismiss the fact that there might be some isolated some incidents where things are getting carried too far. And in fact, the s**t that's happening, us, our leadership not engaging with the facts of the situation, gaslighting us, continuing to escalate this conflict, not doing anything to all of that does feed into antisemitic acts that we see happening, not just on campuses, but around the world. And I don't wanna pretend like anti Semitism isn't real in some capacity. And I don't think our listeners do. I do. I don't think our listeners do. I just think feel I think, like, the frame because the framing is, like, taking these isolated incidents. Right? And and saying, like, look at this antisemitic protest because of this instance or, you know what I mean? And I think we I think we can acknowledge that those incidents are bad. This is an issue that this is an issue I have I have been to Palestine. I've been to Israel. This is an issue that I've I've been paying attention to since 2004 when I was young and and loud, and I would say, learning nuance. Mhmm. And and I do not doubt that there are people who are new to the issue who don't know that they're getting information from from clunky or bad sources and have some growing to do. And I and I and I don't doubt that there are people who who understandably in in particular situations feel feel threatened either by just by way of the elevation of of tension and just by way of the messiness of sometimes people are learning here. I I think that everyone in this situation would be better served if administrations were like, we hear there's an issue and we wanna think about and engage this meaningfully and thoughtfully with you and not just, like, shut the f**k up. Yeah. Because that is what shoves everything underground. That is what makes things sort of feel more elevated. That is But I absolutely have had wrong headed in coming to maturity in my ideology, have got have had wrong headed ideas that were elementary because I was just learning. When tensions are high and it's multiplied by that, it's it's it's problematic. But then, conversely, what happens I know that you're not saying that this isn't happening, Katie. I know you're acknowledging this. But, conversely, what happens is then because there's that clumsiness, people will take that and amplify and be like, this is the whole thing. So we're all trying to be so careful in in in a nuanced and beautiful way of saying, like, there are legitimate concerns about safety and sort of clunkiness, but there are also these amplifications of saying that the messiness is the whole thing, and that is enabled when administrations at schools try to address things by shutting it down. Exactly. That's perfectly said. You know? Because it I don't want them to stop. I I'm proud of these students, and I'm proud of everybody that will not accept this. I just also all the things that you have said, and I understand that some students on campus might be overwhelmed by this. Yeah. We're we're attempting to have a shared language here. Right? And we but, of course, there are huge factions that don't agree what being anti Zionist means. Right? So if we can't agree on just what these people stand for, even when they're standing there saying it and right. They have, like, a leader who's saying, I'm the one who's talking to the media. I'm saying it. But, of course, there's thousands of people there. They're college students. Anyone can say whatever. So this LA Times article that that you shared, Katie, that I read, I think it tried to do a good job because it did talk to people, in the pro Palestine encampment who were willing to speak. But then it shared and it used as the basis for its article. Well, one person was called a Zionist from far away, but then buried in that article was but then they went to go engage even though the people inside the encampment have been told not to engage with anyone from outside who wants to, like, debate them. And the stories that got told were of, oh, well, this person was just ignorant of the history, and it ended up that they were in fact a Zionist, or this person didn't know about that. And it couched it in a way so as to, I think, dismiss what the what the encampment was there to do. Totally. Now does that mean that someone didn't go up to this person and say, oh, Hamas was good? I'm not saying that. I'm not doubting their story. Yeah. That's the thing. There's a I I saw somebody tweeted sorry. Referencing a tweet. But, like, so many journalists and, media, like, publications are treating this not like an organized protest, like you're saying with, like, speakers and, like, goals and this. They're treating it like a music festival where, like, they just sort of go and they're like, hey. You. I wanna talk to you. Like, what do you think? And, like, they just they're looking for these things to amplify and frame it in this way. And I'm sure, you know, so many don't mention, like, all the, like, the various attacks, like, you know, the, at UCLA, there was, like, a bunch of violence from pro Israel and, like, counter protesters, who went there to, like, basically be violent. That did get a lot of coverage, though. It did. And they mentioned it in this article. But, like, it you wouldn't know after finishing it that, like, the only violence has been perpetrated by the outside people who came in to start something. Problems. And so when you read it, you're like, okay. I've read this 1500 words or whatever it is. And then you're like, what were the actual examples of, quote, unquote, antisemitism? Or what what were the, what is the anti Israeli invective that got, like, thrown at these people? And you say, okay. There was, like, some graffiti. Maybe I don't agree with that. Maybe they should have left Royce Hall alone. That's a nice, like, kinda sacred place to UCLA students. And then some unnamed people who we will never see or hear from maybe shouted something. One thing that stood out to me, which I don't know what's true or what's not, are people not being allowed to cross into the library or something. Like, shut down. To go around to get around the encampment. But I do think there's, like, a difference between what we have we're closing off this area. This is the Encampment area for the time being, so you go around. I do think it's different than, like, we are, gating off. But I but I agree. Like, I might not like it, and it's and it's Absolutely. I don't disagree with this. I I right. It's just, like, it's impossible to acknowledge one framework for that. As like, they're not letting Jewish people into the encampments. Like, that's not it. And that's not so much of, like, what I see. Yeah. Superpower and super flaw, which is I do I Flying? Maybe lying? No. It's like a flying. Sorry. Go ahead. Flying. Yeah. My flying. It's my biggest strength and weakness. No. I genuinely I can sounds like such a brag. I have empathy. No. I understand people. I listen to I can understand unless you're, like, truly awful, create I can hear what you're saying and imagine coming from your perspective. It doesn't change my perspective on what I want. And so sometimes when I'm hearing all of this stuff, I just want to acknowledge that this is a really messy, complicated thing for a lot of people and that yeah. Well, and I think, frankly again, frankly, the thing that makes it messy and complex like, I went to school I went to school, to college, in a place where, like, we talked. We had big uncomfortable conversations. We talked about s**t. Like, buildings got occupied. We did this sort of thing. It it all it all happened. And it was uncomfortable for a lot of people, and I think that that was important. I do think that, like, a lot of the problems come from when all this nuance is when an administration says that the way to handle this is to send a bunch of cops in. Yes. Yes. That is when things get Because of discomfort. Right? Like, how do you feel? Because of discomfort. Because of just because to save face. Because they don't, for some reason, all this stuff has been happening on campuses in a heightened way for since the beginning of time, and they still don't have a protocol for when this happens, about bringing people together, about sort of having like, I I don't, the the all of the nuance, I think, is extraordinarily important. It's important to think about where people are coming from. I do understand different people feel uncomfortable for different reasons. I assume, especially in sort of like with heightened antisemitism, that that comes from people. On top of all this, in addition to all of this, who who intentionally and will willingly and willfully are using this to perpetuate particular, like, right wing stereotypes. Totally. Like, there's all sorts of stuff that happens here. But the second that you start to deal with people who are making social demands by sending in a bunch of cops or shutting it down, It you you turn off what we're doing here and you make it an extremely black and white thing. Yeah. I agree. I agree. I think this feels like a good opportunity to go to a break for advertisements advertisements. Good. Good. Listen to these ads. Hey now. Call me yourself. You're experiencing an ad, but not just any ad. This is an ad for the some more news merch store. Thank goodness. You can relax now knowing that you're still in our protective hands. Close your eyes and listen to me describe our products, which you can find at shop.somemorenews.com. Are you picturing it? It's beautiful. So many shirts and magnets and tote bags that you can wear or hold or burn for warmth. That's right. You can burn our merchandise. We don't care. You bought it already. It's yours. Legally speaking, we aren't responsible for anything you do with our Warmbo magnets. 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So the first thing that everyone was talking about once the press got advanced copies is this passage where she once killed her own dog, Cricket, who was 14 months old since it was aggressive, untrainable, attacked a neighbor's chickens. She said Cricket behaved like a trained assassin. She also tells a story about killing a goat that smelled, but people haven't been at I guess it's we just consider it more reasonable in our society to kill a goat and not as much to kill How'd that baby dog become untrainable? Also well, real quick. Watch the goat. Well, it was scaring the children. It was mean to the children. It wasn't just Mean is children. Okay. It wasn't just dirty. Okay. Yeah. The untrainable is odd because dogs are trainable. And also her story seems to have slowly, like, morphed away from, like, oh, it's untrainable and, like, it was aggressive. And then at certain point, she she was like, no. It, like, was attacking the kids or something. And it was threatening the children. Threatening the children, which is not what was in the boat. A lot of threatening animal a lot of animals threatening children in her orbit between the goat and the dog. Yeah. So this the the so the the idea, right, was the idea here. The idea was to say, like, rural real Americans have to make hard choices sometimes, like shooting puppies, and you can count on me. And just this happened to be the one and only time someone tried to lower the bar, and everyone was, like, there is still like, surprise, there's still a bar. Is that is that what happened? It really does. Yeah. Well, because also, she does wanna be the vice president. And Trump does have a long history of you like, saying, like, shoot him like a dog, fired him like a dog. Like, he does, like He does. Just rhetorically seem to have contempt for dogs. But, yeah, it's like, yeah, I make tough decisions. I'm a real American out in the country, and I shoot dogs, or puppies in this case, and I throw them in a gravel pit. And I think it was just yeah. This miscalculation of, oh, you don't want that exactly. You want, like, oh, he was like this dog. He was old and like or like, you know, like an old Yeller situation. I even saw people being like, it's just like old Yeller. That is not like old Yeller. This is not the same thing. It's funny because it is it seems like even the right wing is like, well, we can sacrifice this person for our fun because Jesse Waters is going after Stuart Varney on Fox Business is like, was that a puppy that you killed? You know? But that's kind of the interesting thing, like, you I'm sure you all have covered this over time where it's like every once in a while, like, what was the what was the the the guy who said there were orgies happening? He was the the kid The Madison Cawthorn. Madison Cawthorn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, every like, once a year, they have one to sacrifice. Mhmm. They have, like, a bloodletting. Right. In order to go, like, look, guys, we do have I know you say we don't have standards, but we do have standards. And they have someone who's such a like it like in a fete near do well that they're like cut them so we can let them know that sometimes even even we have standards. We have standards. Yeah. Yeah. We they got rid of, Dennis Hastert. Yes. I mean, that's it was shocking at the time. It's funny that, like because to me, going through this Kristi Noem stuff, I thought the the fact that she made up that she met Kim Jong un and then appeared to that. That okay. So she in the book, it says, I remember when I met with North Korean dictator Kim Jong un. I'm sure he underestimated me having no clue about my experience staring down little tyrants. I've been a children's pastor after all. Oh, yuck. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. Yuck. Then she's asked about this on Face the Nation, and they're like, did you we would've known about that. You didn't meet the dictator of North Korea, did you? And she said, well, as soon as this was brought to my attention, I certainly made some changes and looked at this passage. As soon as it was brought to my attention Did you not write the book? Right. It's like, are you not even pretending that you wrote the book or pretending that you read the book before a bunch of copies were sent out? Like, we all know that politicians have ghostwriters and stuff. Of course. She probably maybe she read it, but didn't expect people to react to it. But also, like, here at this point, you gotta know. As soon as it's brought to my attention, I made the changes about my lie that I that somebody else wrote in this. You're going on a show to talk about this. Work on your phrasing ahead of time. Be able to know what you're going to say. Don't be like, yeah. I didn't know about it. And then somebody was like, hey. Did you write this and I changed it? Like, no. Prepare. She said it's she should've blamed an editor who cut the line the phrase in my mind. I remember in my mind when I met it like some some version where it's like, yeah. I wrote it. It was like a a fantasy, like, section of the book or something like that. And they took out the premise, and so now it just reads as fact. She couldn't have even read the book for like No. It was like going out on a a book tour. I already know this story. I don't need to read it. It's so funny. The miscount also, like, just that, you know, because Trump, we'll see what happens with that guy. It really does seem like the only way to get rid of him is for him to die someday soon, maybe. I don't know. But he historically has pretty much gotten away with it all. Like, if Trump wrote this in a book, he would handle it so f**king smoothly. He'd be like, yeah. I said it. I don't know. Who care? Like, he would not he would brush it off and it would be fine. And I feel like so many people in the realm of politics, especially in the Republican party, think that they have that juice, and that ability to be Teflon in situations like this. And not everybody does, not most people do. And she certainly doesn't seem to. And it's just funny to see that sort of, like, just like not a care in the world. Like, oh, yeah, I'll write about how I shot my puppy. And I'll write about how I my fantasy of meeting this dictator and it's not working out. And it's just funny to see when that calculation really comes, like, comes back. And it's like, no. You're not you're not this guy. A lot of these people were, like and I'm not giving Trump any credit. I need that to be clear. But, like, he was, like, forged in the fire of being a scumbag his whole life. Mhmm. Like, he was like he came from a family of scumbags and like that. And they do things a particular way, and they operate by way of, like, literal mob rule. And, like, they understand how, like, he speaks scumbag. Like, he knows it. And it's not just style. It's not like his his style and the things that he says. It's like he kind of just like he operates almost like sort of a mythic like, a mythic, like, evil machine that just, like, walks through. Like, that's, like, what he does. Always moved through the world in kind of a bubble. He's always Yes. He has met his dad. Graciously rich people tend to live in a different world than the rest of us. But add to it his predisposition and his family and his background and experiences. He there is it is hard to take him down, but not everybody can rise to that. Christie is not Donald Trump. Yeah. It's not like they they think they it's his they think it's the things that he says or the ways that he says say, and he's so good at that. But it's not. And then when sometimes when they try to do it, they're like, oh, it's not gonna work for me because I don't have the zhoosh. Exactly. Yeah. He should brag during one of his speeches. He should be like, I could kill a dog and they you know? Like Right. Like, he could. And, like, you'd be like, I would have shot I would have shot the dog better. 5th Avenue. I would have been better at shooting that puppy, and, there'd be more puppies in that gravel pit if it were me. And they'd be f**king on board with that. Anyway, she's canceled or she's been canceling a bunch of dates at the end of the tour. Never met Kim Jong un. There are there are some people like, yeah. I guess he never met him. I don't know. There are some people that genuinely don't think it's bad to shoot your dog. Well, that isn't and I'm not look. Again, there I do know I do know that. But, like, there was an interesting I think it was, like, in time where where they went to, like, go talk with sort of, like, dog specialists in rural America or whatever. And someone was, like, yeah. Like, sometimes, like, in in rural situations, like, people aren't gonna take their dog to a vet. They're gonna shoot them. They're gonna sort of do it in theoretically in a humane way. And the person was, like, the thing that's weird to me though is no one who has to do that gleefully celebrates. Right. Like, that's it's just not a surprise. Completely difficult decision to make. Not because you're It's not like I'm putting it on your campaign website. Like, you you know, it's like this tragic thing I had to do. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Maybe she's, you know, a hunting dog can't put and doesn't matter. And just, like, train it better. Do better. Train it better. Train it better. What do you need on your training wheel? Hunting dog or whatever the f**k. Yeah. Anyhoo. Also, as a bunch of people point sorry. A bunch of people pointed out too, like, in terms of, like, rural, living and, like, dogs and stuff, your you you know, your dog, it's a hunting dog. It's trained to, like, yeah, kill chickens and stuff. Well, actually, they want, your hunting dog to not be destructive to the chickens. Well, so here's the thing. Soft mouth on the chickens. I've seen a lot of people just sort of point out, like, if you have this dog, don't let the dog out near the chickens. Exactly. Like literally just like That's what I'm saying. Don't let it be that kind of dog. There. Right. And I've still like seen a lot of people who were like, no, I had a similar problem and I stopped letting it near the chicken so I didn't have to shoot the dog. Her ghostwriter must have taken a story about her going from South Dakota to North Dakota and been like, but what if that was Korea? Is there a do the Dakotas have a demilitarized zone that people meet in? He must have had this, like, grape or shingle. That is great, concept for, like, an interesting life and added it in there. Why would the governor of South Dakota need to meet why? What would be the purpose? So funny. It's such a funny thing. Right? Let alone that one. Right? She meant, like, him? Like, or like Like, I haven't read the book, so I don't know what the funny It is pretty wild. It's pretty out there. Democratic People's Republic of Dakota. You know what else is wild? RFK junior having a literal brain worm. Apparently, Jonathan, what's happening? Is it alive, or is it dead? Oh, the worm? The worms gotta be dead. They don't live that long. R f k junior is alive? R f k junior alive. Worm dead. Worm almost certainly existed. Worm doesn't eat brains. Anyway, okay. So the thing, though. So a worm in somebody's brain is gonna make that person say that the worm's dead. That's all I'm gonna do. Right. That's exactly what a worm would say. Time like, is the worm puppeting him? I don't know. Crang. That's what I'm doing right now. More like yerks for all the Animorphs fans and, listen and listeners out there. Okay. Well, here's the let me before, you know, what These are 3. Alright. Go on. Here's the actual story. So, Robert f Kennedy junior, running for president, independent, doesn't matter. He told The New York Times that in the early 20 tens, he was experiencing memory loss and mental fogginess. Doctor thought he might have a brain tumor, but, ultimately, one doctor and then, I think more doctors, this this article describes, settled on a dead parasite, a worm in his head. He says the mental fogginess is gone. The memory loss is gone. A bunch of experts that the Times talked to said it's probably more likely that he would have had those symptoms from mercury poisoning, which he also had from eating tuna fish every day. He ate tuna and perch all the time Pretty much. Which are mercury rich fish, and that could have caused the symptoms. They said a dead parasite in his head would have been unlikely to eat literal brain. Yeah. They don't really do that. Right? They, like the goal is to, like, live there and survive. And they think he they and, again, these are people that haven't treated him. They just, like, read the story, and they're like, well, it's probably this, a a pork tapeworm larva from eating undercooked pork, and then the worm made its way up into into the old noggin. Ugh. Ugh. Horrendous. So he's just eating he's just eating undercooked pork and tuna, shoveling it into his mouth every day. It's very sad because he has a lot of health problems. It's wild. Atrial fibrillation. He's got a lot of, issues. He does not seem physically fit for the job, for the office. Well, he lifts a lot. Like, you can see him. He Sure. Does, like, these videos where he's, like, skinny. Lifting your stacks of paper from your desk. I don't know. He's, like, a decade younger than the other guy. Yeah. But it's not good. Also, just it's national shrimp day. I wanna say that I did reading about mercury poisoning. Check it out. Shrimp, very low. Very, very low. Risk of eating too much shrimp and getting mercury poisoned. So Everybody's safe. Can just breathe a sigh of relief on national shrimp day. Eat more shrimp. Can I give a quick shrimp recipe? A very quick shrimp recipe to go with your to go with your shrimp desires. Can you I mean Please. You cook them what what if we're doing a through a defrosted shrimp, I'm just literally making Defrosted shrimp? No. I'm telling and tell I wanna give you a recipe. I wanna suggest this is what you do with that. You were asking quizzing meat. Please, I got my pencil. No. I wanna I wanna judge your shrimp. I think it's some more the, the with the defrosted ones that you're talking about in the bag, you could do great things with them. You just put some oil in the pan, fry the shrimp until they're almost cooked. Put good like a like 2 tablespoons of good tomato paste. Finish some chopped garlic in there, salt, pepper, stir it until it's good and then sprinkle a little cilantro on top, and then squeeze a full lime on there. Delicious. Absolutely. That's so easy. That's a meal that I have just standalone a lot of the time. I love that. I love that. I'm trying Let me try that. A shrimp recipe from me to you. It's a I appreciate it so much. I just I'm putting it down. Happy shrimp day. Happy shrimp day to everyone. I mean, honestly, everyone go make that shrimp and tag it on your socials. Go do it. Tag your brain worms on social. Okay. Is anybody familiar with what happened to his voice? I'm not. I'm asking when we ask about his. That's a whole other thing. Oh, it's a condition. I forget what it's called. Spasmodic dysphonia. It's a lot of stuff he's been dealing with. Yeah. He's just, got a lot of ailments, which doesn't necessarily mean that he's he shouldn't be the president, but, the the short and long the short and long term memory seem seems to be not It says they're all the memories. It's not. He does say that that's fixed, which is good. But Maybe he forgot that it it isn't. Yeah. It's just one of the things where it's like you hear, like, oh, short short term memory loss and long term memory loss. It's like, well, that's both of them. Yeah. It's all the memory. Those are all the ones that you can have. So not great, but, it's god. I don't know. Yeah. His decisions on the issues are pretty clearly why he shouldn't be president, and he won't be president. He'll Yeah. Exactly. Siphon some votes. It appears from Trump more than Biden if the polls are to be believed. Yeah. I think so. Totally. I mean, if you're anti vaxx, that would be I know. I answered it as I was saying, you think? I was like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Think he'll pull from him more. Alicia Silverstone is a big fan of his, I think. So it's gonna pull the Alicia Silverstone vote, which is a bummer, and a bunch of Trump votes. Well I mean, if you're talking brainworm if we're talking brainworms, we should talk to, somebody who feeds their kids like baby birds. Right? Anyone remember that? Alicia Silverstone feeds their kids like baby birds? How dare you remind me of that. Yeah. Sorry. I've never heard that. Dang it. I love that. She, like, chews up the food and sticks in her mouth. Okay. Hopefully, she's moved on from that. Probably not worms like real like human food, but, that's what she said. So Very good way to connect all those things. I'm I'm impressed. That's so gross to me. Yeah. Probably to kids too. Yeah, you would imagine. Maybe not. They're used to it probably. That's all they know. If all you know is Baby Bird, then you're fine with it. -I think we maybe did it. I think we maybe arrived at the end of our show. What do you guys think? -We could talk about the Office reboot, but, like Oh, Cody wants to talk about the office reboot. It's just silly. What? So they're doing office reboot. Well, they're not. But But they're not. And the why is because TV's just there everyone's just struggling out out there. Streamers, they're just struggling. They gotta have something, And they know that people love watching The Office on their, terrible app, by the way. I need to an aside. Peac**k of all the streaming apps, it is the worst one. Functionally, terrible. There goes our Peac**k sponsorship. Peac**k, if you fix it, we'll sponsor and we'll say, look, they fixed it. Look how much they listen to their users anyway. So that we could have the menus. Read an ad. That would be great. I would love it. So this Office reboot, I'll just it's about, allegedly, a dying historic Midwestern newspaper and the publisher trying to revive it with volunteer reporters. First of all, I you know, a fine idea, I guess. I have I maybe have we'll see how they portray it, but, like, volunteer Yeah. What? Reporters is, like, what? And, like, I don't know. Kind of just, like, dismisses, like, the value of journalism a little bit. Like, oh, just volunteer. I don't know. I don't know what they're gonna do with the show. Who knows? That's not The Office reboot. No. That's a a different show. It's a different show. The newspaper or something. The only connective tissue seems to be that it's the same documentary crew following them. It's supposed to be in the same universe, but have nothing to do with the show. Camera people. Is it is it the is it the boom operator that tries to f**k Pam? Probably not because he got fired. Right? So, like No. It's just so they can say this is connected to The Office, and then once a season, they can have Toby show up or whatever. Like, that's a great way. Strangler just murders you. Make some reference to it. They'll have someone show up and be like, oh, the thing we all liked, but, hopefully, this is a good show on its own. I mean, it's created by Greg co created by Greg Daniels who created the US version of The Office, starring Donald Gleeson and Sabrina Impacciatore. They're good. Could be good. It's just, like, they're they wanted to make a new show, and Peac**k was like, is it The Office? And he's like, no. It's a different show. And they're like, let's connect it to The Office. Could it be The Office? A way to get it. Right. Like, sure. Why the f**k not? Let's put it in the office universe. If we if some more news was gonna be and they'd be like, can Spider Man be here? We'd say, like, sure. If we if we can make the show and send it to 100 of millions of people, Spider Man can be now. Yours. Let's do it. Yeah. But, yeah, who cares? Yeah. It it also, like, implies, like so, like, was Parks and Rec, like, a reboot of The Office too? Is Abbott Elementary a reboot of The Office? Because they have offices at the school. It's just like an absurd thing to do. Did you guys see I'm I'm I'm only thinking about this because I'm accidentally wearing a Ric Flair shirt right now. Did you see the Ric Flair news? And I can't believe I didn't introduce this to to when you were asking for news. So Ric Flair, who I love, who I is it is as a human, a scumbag, but as a character, in wrestling, amazing. And, he he had a viral, what's it called? The Instagram post, that was putting, Paisano's pizza restaurant in Fort Lauderdale on blast, telling people not he just spent $1500 in cash at Paesano's. Gave them a bunch of autographs, and then he was disappointed with them because he had to wait too long for a manager to use the bathroom. So he, came after Paisanos in Fort Lauderdale. And I love everything about that. I love that this man who's like in his seventies is using social media to turn people on a restaurant called Paisano. So it turns out from management reporting or people who are related to management reporting, that kinda not surprising if you know anything about Ric Flair. He might have been the problem. Maybe. That'd be my guess. He was. He might have been. Someone did ask, like, what do you think someone spends $1500 on paisanos? It's like, well, if I know Ric Flair, probably, like, 30 pitchers of beer. So I think that maybe that had something to do with it. Maybe. It was it was a joke with this is that everyone was sharing this with, like, a Tim Robinson character above it because the way this is phrased sounds like a Tim Robinson character is, like, yelling it, like, to to camera. Like, he bought an ad. Like, I spent $1500 at Paisano. Right. Something that is something that is perplexing about Ric Flair is his his, like, typed out narrative is every every word every like, it's like a headline. Like, every the beginning of every word is capitalized, but not the whole word. So he has to put in so much effort to capitalize every word. Right. It's not natural because you're not getting the caps lock. You just have to capitalize every the beginning of every word. Oh my god. This tweet is incredible. Can you read the title of I'm curious to read text like this. Oh my god. The tweet just so everyone has context, and then we can it says stop this. I spent $1500 at Pizano's SFB to be disrespected more than I ever have in my entire life. After taking 20 pictures with customers and staff, I was asked to leave because of an issue I had with the kitchen manager taking too long in the bathroom. I would highly recommend that anyone who wants to enjoy a relaxing time in Gainesville at a nice restaurant to never visit this place. Woo. This is wild. Incredible. Incredible sweet. Because, like, what kitchen manager taking too long in the bathroom. Dude, back off. The best part. Like, what? How do you think that that interaction played out? Doing in there, man? The issue I had with the kitchen manager taking too long in the bathroom is an incredible phrase. The kitchen manager having the worst night of their life because they're just, like, they're in intense guttural pain, and then Ric Flair's yelling at you. Right. And now we know that put this on a shirt and sell it as merch. He's so good. I totally do that. s**t. Yeah. Can we put this on a shirt because we don't have merch? Tweets and put it on a shirt. Any lawyers out there confirm that we can take Ric Flair's tweet and put it on a shirt. Just take out Paisato's and put in the name of the show. I spent $1500 at even more news to be just for spending. More than $1500 a b***h. I'm sure that it's Fun. There is a community note proposed on this tweet. I am the community notes community. The proposed note says a video has come to light. Show Ric Flair being drunk, disorderly, and abusive to staff, including offering a waitress $1,000 to tell the manager to kiss Rick's a*s. He was asked to leave multiple times. Okay. At the back of the shirt should have the community note. I'm gonna rate I'm gonna rate that note as helpful. Oh, so good. My god. Thank you for reading it. It really brought me joy. This was fun. Thank you for bringing this to our attention, as a fun little treat at the end of this episode. And now I wanna go eat at Paesano's, to be honest. Hell yeah. Be very nice to their staff. They deserve it right now. And, honestly, I'll let everybody go ahead and be in line because I'm chill like that even though I always have to pee. Bring a bag of shrimp. Shrimp for everybody at Paizano's. Parole. Paizano's, p I e, Sano's. So it's like pizza pie, but also Piesanos. Oh, no. Pretty cute. Alex, thank you so much for joining us. Please tell our listeners where they can find you, hear your projects. You are good. A Feelings podcast about movies is available wherever you listen to podcasts about movies. That was good. Thanks. 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