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Things are about to change around here. Each week, we catch up with Hollywood's hottest girl posse Keltie Knight, Becca Tobin and Jac Vanek. Hello, hello, hello, welcome to LadyGang and Becca Tobin here with Jac Bennett and Keltie Knight. Hello. Hello. How are you feeling, guys? Quite a whirlwind from exhausted my fake eyebrows on Zoom allows you to put an eyebrow on. I can't see the funniest thing that was happening as we've recorded this episode already, but Keltie was looking down at her notes and her eyebrow, or her fake eyebrow from Zoom was moving all over her front. I can't wait to see that anyway. So good. It's time for a good week. Yes, it is bad week. Oh no. All right. I'll start Beccause I have a follow up from a really. A great moment in a couple episodes back where Jac was telling me about his ailments, right? Yes. So I didn't think it could get much better. I didn't think he would give me and a morsel so tasty to share. Hmm. So this is my most recent bad week. I look at him the other day and he's looking like not, not his best. He's looking like something's wrong. So I said, Hey, look, what's going on? He says, I don't feel great. And I'm like, This is the worst still in COVID times. So when you say, I don't feel great. Yeah, there's there's it's more weighted than it usually was. But even before that, it's like that means that you feel like you're coming down with something, whatever. And I said, Well, what's wrong? And he said, it's just so hot. It's just so hot outside the heat and this is really bringing him down. But again, that is not. I don't feel great. Yeah, that's it's just hot outside and I'm sweating. Yeah. When I asked him the first, what's wrong, his answer should have just been, it's hot outside and I'm miserable. Not I don't feel great. It's just so crazy that he exists on this planet. Oh my, good week. My good week is this we took our first fight with Ford. Yes, I know. How did it go? It's wonderful. Until and listen, I still consider this a win. He we did the whole thing. You know, you give him the bottle when you're takeoff and landing. Help with their ears Beccause the sucking on the bottle helps with the ears. And he pretty much slept and we were bad parents and let him watch hockey on Zach's screen in front of him Beccause we noticed that he was captivated by the scream in hockey's great. So, yeah, OK. And you're not supposed to show your kids a screen until they're like two or not. You're not so much in the past minute. Yeah. Christ, yeah. So the recommendation is really like to keep your kids away from screens until high Beccause of the redevelopment. Interesting stuff. So anyways, you know, much to our pediatricians sugar on this week. Does that mean that I shouldn't even have the TV on now? They really shouldn't. I mean, here's the thing what does does a baby do then? I know how to read books all day exhausting. I mean, mostly babies are sleeping, but on a plane, you know, he was starting to get really fussy, and I noticed he kept turning his head toward the little tiny screen in front of Jac. And we were like, Huh? I mean, he's quiet. Like, you were going to do, baby. It's better than like a screaming baby. The entire flight, like you got to do what you can. Exactly. So that was fine. And then also I on on our flight home, he s**t himself and I had to take him into a bathroom and pull down the changing table above the toilet seat in the bathroom. I never noticed that before. Didn't know existed. I mean, I guess I knew it had to have, but I never was looking for it. So there it is. Pull it down. Change him. Bring him back to the seat. And Zach's like. It still smells like poop. And he like, touches the back of his onesie. And he had like poop that shot out the back of the diaper and so was on the onesie. So we had to get him nude at our seat and change him. But I still feel like in the grand scheme of things, of all the things that he could have been doing on that plane as long as he wasn't screaming, crying, it was a success. Absolutely. I mean, babies should themselves, you know, it's just like a given humans, and we've been so like, OK. Yeah, he's just one of us now. I think it's a mom win for you back. That's a huge mom win. Congratulations. Thank you. And I'll go next. OK. So my good week is pretty simple. I have finally started the first step in wedding planning. Finally, I've been, like, really dreading it Beccause I just don't want to do it. It's just seems like too big of an undertaking. So I keep putting it off. But now I'm realizing if I want to get married next April, I'm actually starting to run out of time to begin planning. Mm hmm. So I started talking to different Villa companies that are in Mexico. One is called my locks and one of those exceptional villas or something, and they have these amazing ten bedroom beachfront villas. So we're on the up and up. And then once I do that, then maybe I'll be inspired to maybe pick out a dress one day. So we have begun 10 bedrooms. So you're just you're doing 20 people. No, it'll just some people will stay there and then some people will stay. Maybe or maybe I could get like villas next to each other or something like that. Team stays with you and the B team like rolls in from the Hyatt. Yeah, yeah. Hopefully there's a Hyatt around that's probably looking to you. Just, oh, I can't believe that didn't even come to your mind first. You're not even thinking where the lady is going to say, I know I'm not in the park. Yeah, that's fine. Like, I got to find Becca. We're going to get our own. That's fine, but we subtract. The least you can do is just make sure whatever villa you go with, there's. A nearby decent hotel. OK, fine, see this these are the things that I don't want to deal with. Can I help you? We're going to help you. I'm proud of you and I'm really excited Beccause I feel like I. Behind the scenes, I think Becca, I don't know if you've seen any Becca, but Jac was here and I saw a couple dresses that she tried on, and it's a real fantasy. And so like, I can't wait to like jump into the Jac Vanek bridal fantasy. But this is the problem. Now this is what I always I always come into this problem with clothes. It's like I get an idea of what I want and it does not exist. So that's what's happening with this dress is I want to kind of things that go together that don't usually go together in a dress and I can't find it anywhere. So. And rhinestone chaps and a wedding dress, I actually just wanted a bikini. What are you looking for? Well, I can't. I don't want to say OK, but custom. But the thing with COVID is now I don't even know if I have enough time to do a custom dress Beccause we'll see. Fingers crossed. Well, I have great news for you. Well, you're not going to care after you wear it. What it looked like, or even when you're wearing it, while you may actually have. You got to do four dresses so you can get everything you want in the span of this. Yes. Leaving and changing sucks. No, no, no. But like Stacy just did, she had like her rehearsal dinner dress was definitely a wedding dress. Yeah, and then she wore like a cup. Just wear a couple of wedding dresses. Well, Jordan, I want you like private vows. I think like the day before the wedding, so I don't have to be like nervous about that for the wedding. So I want to do like a dress for that. And then a wedding dress that'll just be like the dress of the day. And then I leave the courthouse outfit question. What are you doing? So you're are you going to do private vows or an entirely private ceremony? No, just private vows. Beccause the the thing that I learned about my very public engagement is I don't want eyes on me for like a very intimate kind of brief ceremony with an audience. Yeah, but like five minutes got super brief and very unconventional and like, yeah, easy and nothing crazy. I just don't want that pressure for the actual wedding day. I just want to have fun and have it be a party. So anyways, that's my good week. We're starting wedding planning. So whole thing. My bad week is something that Keltie has done and that is posting a TikTok of her using a tongue scraper. Oh my God, showing the entire world all of the g**k that came off of her tongue. And I am scarred for life culty. But you know, I know you guys yelled at me. It's polarizing, but I feel like my job as an influencer is to sometimes let people know about the embarrassing bad things about lady hood and tongue. Scraping is disgusting, but nobody told me my whole life. You know, it's so gross. I'm 40 and my colonic lady is like, Hey, so do you like to scrape your tongue? And I was like, What? And then now that I do it, if I don't do it in the morning, I feel like I haven't put on deodorant. Like it must be done. So I agree. I mean, I tongue scrape every day as well. But like there was no. How did you find out about it? Who told you to tongue scrape? My dentist? Oh, well, I guess I have terrible dentists, but I think that you could maybe have done that took Tik Tok without giving a very close up shot of all the s**t on your tongue. That's what it is. It's like you could have held it up and been like, Hey, guys, have you not tried to tongue scraping? It's cool. I was hoping that that's where it was going when I saw it, and then it went in and then in closer and closer and closer in high definition, and I was like, No, no, I just don't need to see anybody's bodily fluids. I agree. It's not like I enjoyed it. I mean, you know, being satisfying. But no, I understand. And but this is my thing. Jac is like, I'm trying to try less. I always try to try more there. I don't know the answer to this anyway. I'm very sorry and it didn't go viral, so I'll probably take it down. Well, you said that you were going to take it down when we texted you about how disgusting it down, it's still up there. I took it off the Instagram video on Instagram, where all the bots are perfect. OK. Well, I had a good week mouth scraping and putting the scraping online and how much? I think it's great. So I'm going to use that as my good week. I just do think that tongue scraping is amazing and there is our sponsor, guru Nadia, who does like the coconut oil kind of like mouthwash. Yeah, oil paying. I'm telling you guys it's game changing, like you do scrape and you pull, and it's like, Oh. My mouth is clean like you not scrape your tongue at night. I scrape mine at night. I feel like that's when all the ships are. This is why I had to do the video. No, you're supposed to that you're supposed to scrape it in the morning Beccause the tongue is where your body detoxes from your armpits, your feet and your tongue are the main detox points. So when you wake up in the morning, everything your body is trying to get rid of that it can't get through. Your digestive system is sitting on the top of your tongue, so you're literally scraping off germs and makes me want to barf. Well, anyway, OK, so I my bad week. My bad week is that I had a bubble ice machine delivered to me in February. It is now me and I've only had one day of bubble ice. The bubble ice machine has been broken. Well, actually, it's not broken. The bubble ice machine has been incorrectly installed three times now. I don't know if I'm so new money that people in L.A. don't know how to install a bubble ice machine. But I'm on my third plumber and I can't get the bubble ice to work first anyway. I'm not going to go into detail Beccause it's stupid how story that people are going to be bored with. But anyway, the water wasn't right, then the power wasn't right, and now it won't get cold. So I'm just dreaming of a summer with an iced tea bubble ice at my pool. And if I don't get it, I'm going to f**king rage. Night. Our thoughts and prayers are with you at this difficult time. I need you. Thank you. OK, coming up. Watch Krepon. Are you ready for warmer weather? I know that I am, Brooklinen is, too. We love Brooklyn and kick off the summer with the home of the internet's favorite sheets and their Memorial Day sale happening this week. So every Brooklinen product is on sale soft sheets, luxurious towels and robes, snugly weighted blankets, lavish silk eye masks and pillowcases. They offer everything from snuggly sheets to cosy towels. 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Watch what happens where they praise, ridicule and basically talk all things housewife ridicule, ridicule, you know, bringing the cool back to ridicule and whatever other crap Bravo throws at them, they mock Beccause they love truthfully and we can relate. I mean, Sutton had the French designer and everyone was putting out fires. Please welcome to the LadyGang. Ben and Ronnie from Watch World Cup. Thanks for having us. It's a long, long time waiting, a long time. I know. I'm excited to finally meet you. We see you guys on tour in the same places. We are either like right before us or write us. We're like, there's like Sam Cave. There's a below deck. Watch what happens, LadyGang episode that needs to happen. Like, Oh, go on a boat together and just cause ruckus. I'm so down for that. Like, I'm ready. So fun. That would be so fine. I don't. They don't leave the shore on those boats is what I just realized. They don't. That's true. It's Brad Gretzky was the first person to ever point it out, and he was like, There no daughter, ever the never like the open sea right now Beccause the camera crew has to like be able to go back at night to their quarters on land. And so it's like, you aren't really going on. I'm sorry. And then maybe it's like it would look like the deadliest catch kind of like a filming thing if you're on the open water? Yes. So I don't mean you up, and no one needs to go out and no one needs. I went on a cruise one time and I was like, This is terrifying. I can see why people murdered their spouses like this Beccause there's nobody to help you. I don't care if you're on a floating mom, it's still the middle of nowhere. No, there's no wi fi out in the middle of the ocean. I need to be where there's a wi fi like I would always say I would be like the worst below deck guest Beccause I would just be like just sitting there on my phone and I would like I got on a jet ski. I'd be like, No, it's OK. I think I'll just sit here. I'll just do like Weird Al or something. Checking out my Instagram is going to do something. I worked on a cruise ship for two years as a dancer and I was a lifeboat captain, and I just want to make a public service announcement. Nobody on board knows what they're doing. I was a lifeboat captain, everyone. And if, if, if we hit the iceberg and they were like, Keltie, go to your muster station and get this lifeboat in the water, I would not have known what to do. So you're right, you're not safe and carnival. If you want to sponsor this podcast, we will calm you down, but we're going to need to know what muster station and who's manning it. I just am impressed at the term muster station or something, so it's more than we do. You must I'll have to get. We all learn about it. I went on also my first cruise I three years ago with my family and we all had to learn about the muster stations and what was your closest muster station and get to the muster station you like. Wake up, think about Muster Station. Yeah, that's the thing. It's like they kind of admit that they don't know what they're doing right at the beginning as they they take you all out there and you're with every person on the boat standing outside, which is disgusting like that you have that much. Humanity should never be gathered together at the same time. And then they're like, OK, well, if the boat sinks or crashes or whatever, the only one getting off this b***h is Kathy Bates and the rest of you all. I'll figure it. Look up there, see those up there, grab those and float. You're like, What the hell? No one's going to save me. No one's going to make it out here. Nobody debates. Also, if you go missing on a cruise ship or you get pushed overboard or murdered, nobody's coming to look for you. That's not true, actually. That's what it is. I, Jac, I know you're the contractor, but I've lived this in real life on the Norwegian Sky. One of the places that was what's called the Norwegian Sky. An awkward boat, not the Norwegian Sea. No, it's like that building. I was like, Maybe your kid camp when they can't play sports? Exactly right. I also was on the Norwegian Sea, which feels like any Norwegian Sky. One of the women bartenders, fell off the edge of the deck, and no one realized till she did come up to work the next day. And so what they did is they went in and they figured out the last time they saw was in the crew bar. I'm not going to put the blame on her, but she was at the crew bar and someone was like, Oh, I saw her at like 11:30 and they went back, turn the boat around, went back to where the boat would have been when it dropped, and then kind fumbled the like tides and the ocean, and they found her find the bartender and we're still going to make an effort for the bartender. Yeah. You know, the drinks podcasters missing who was a dime a dozen? Too many podcasters. Serious questions about your brand before we get in to Bravo. Are you friends with Andy? We're not like friends with Andy, but like, we've definitely now we we do have like sort of a relationship with him Beccause we have gone on to watch what happens live. I think it's now been three times that we've gone on. So like, you know, now there's there's now we like, you know, we follow each other on Twitter. You know, we'll get we'll get like a retweet and everything like that. So I think like as much as you can have a relationship with someone who's famous, I feel like there's there's a hope that we're best friends. The other war veteran? Yeah, we're not friends with him. But. We do have an email of somebody that is so I think what's credible and is there like a. Lawyer ramification for doing a podcast like as a fan or as like a pop culture expert about a show that you don't own, like does Bravo let you just do whatever you want or have you ever had any cease and desist? We've had cease and desist, but it does get it has gotten a little weird Beccause Bravo super protective over their shows and their PR and what they let people do. And obviously we don't care Beccause we don't work for them. And so we started this Beccause we're we were bloggers, and the whole point of it was to make fun of things and not really give a crap what anybody thought. And so we've just kind of continued that and we've had a couple of pushback things like where people have told them, Oh, we're going to go on, watch a crap ends and then they're not allowed to. We don't know who said they're not allowed to Beccause it's also secretive. It's weird. It's like a secretive thing, but they've always been kind to us when we've interacted. It just kind of depends on who you get Beccause all the shows have different producers and some of them, like some of them, don't. Yeah, access varies. That's very, very interesting. And then the last thing I want to ask before we get into specifics is do you have like a favorite and least favorite each of you Bravolebrity? Well, for me, for many years, I don't I haven't revisited this in a moment, but like, I've always loved countless low and below steps Beccause her journey is so crazy to me that she was a countess and she was all about cla*s. And she really believes the book about cla*s. And then she comes out with songs and then she's doing cabaret. But she also gets arrested and like everything she does, sort of doesn't make any sense. And yet it's part of her whole story. So I kind of just like love that I've just always been kind of an unabashed count. The wound fan. She's multifaceted. She adds, Thank you. That's a good way to make that dynamic. I would say, you know, it's kind of I've learned to look at it like life, you know, like, try to love everybody but understand they're ultimately going to disappoint you and they're not worth it. And so that's how I live. That's how I love. That's how I laugh. I love it. OK, so then just to prepare you, Becca was our original Bravolebrity. I mean, she not know Bravo lover, our Bravo lover, like she was the one who early in the podcast was like, We can get Lisa Vanderpump great. Like she always knew who the good people were to get. Now she once did say, You watch what happens live when they offered her a bartender. Oh wow. No. You know you were. Yes. Here's the thing I would have done it had I not already been a guest on Watch What happens with my guest. That's the whole reasoning party. I was being a twat. And what didn't they offer us for leading TV to all be bartenders? She's that's what she is. Yeah. So I myself, as I was going to do it, I was like, I'm an outfit ready. I'm ready. They're like, I've fallen off a boat for this gig. I yes, I am the truth bartender you've ever met. She would skim her way into being a guest somehow anyways, as she was the bartender. So tell me what happened. Oh, I was already a proper guest, and so I wouldn't. I didn't want to be demoted. I wanted to just be a friend of. Yeah, I feel that's fair. Exactly what you know. Would would Ramona come back next season as a friend of. Never. Wow. She's desperate. She might be. That might be. That might be her lot in life now. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, I feel like once you're on glee, you're not a bartender. No, I kind of am from Glee. So I guess you need a job as a publicist Beccause I think that no one's ever said it better. Yeah. And this is the greatest show on TV, and I've been on Glee, and you're going to try and make me be the bartender. You're right. We were lucky Beccause we went on during COVID. Yeah, COVID was so lucky. Web mix got messier, but we were lucky Beccause they were doing a lot of at home stuff, you know? So and you try and get people who are actually on these shows. We've all seen them tried to do the internet. They just can't do it, you know, like with their cameras and ratings. Yeah. So they reached out to podcasters and stuff. So we've lucked out in that way. I'm sure that now that it's back live, you know, they probably wouldn't even make us bartenders. They probably have us like passing tuna rolls or something. So we would be opening the doors in the front of that building on the first floor be like, Come on in Mr. Cohen, you know, like, that's our new position, really? And you referred to this? Yeah, you were. OK, so Jac, I believe you never any. Don't you want s**thouse Jac? Yeah, I watched I watched Vanderpump and I watched Summer House. I was never a housewife. Fan, so that's like I'm a fair weather Bravo fan, that's fine. Just so everybody knows, you know, it's weird Beccause you have kind of an Ariana vibe to you, but you look kind of like her and you also have her like, Oh, like, I don't care, like you have that kind of. And I mean that in a good way. I love her. I feel very complimented by that. Yeah, it's like, that's totally a compliment. It a of her last person like she gives. No. She's like, Yeah, television. I don't care. When can I drink? Yeah, it's my favorite time. Yeah. And then I'm a newly Bravo lifeguard stressful. And I found that my anti-depressants were not the only thing making me happy anymore. What I needed was a nine p.m. viewing in the bathtub of Housewives. So I am halfway. I'm only watching. I know I'm such a dick. Salt Lake City. Oh, see. Beverly Hills. A little Atlanta. But I'm behind and I haven't gotten into below deck and everyone saw me sailing out sailing. I don't know if I can welcome new friends in right now, but that's where I'm at. So we just want to be fully with you. You know, work on the basics. You know, do do you're like, Do your Real Housewives? And then you start to layer in things like you can layer in a below deck. You can bring in Summer House if you want to do a really great deep dive, you maybe even go all the way into the archives and do some gallery girls Beccause that's really like dollar girls as an amazing gem. When the Bravo, it's it's do you know I remember this the art girl, the girls who were all running the gallery York. It was they were from, like 2011 or 12, and I just followed seven seven girls in New York who worked in the art world and they all, like, hated each other and were so mean to each other. And the show was like, it was so brilliant in so many ways, like you just can't understand until you watch it. Ladies of London also really? Oh, yeah. Also, from that time period that the yeah, that was from that time, well, Bravo. That's three different phases, right? So they have they're like, we're going to be like HGTV now and have home shows, and then they do that for maybe a year and you never hear them again. You know, they go through those phases and one of their faces was like, You, there's people change. And so they tried to get, you know, these young shows. And so they got gallery girls and they got princesses Long Island with with these disastrous late, you know, these disastrous girls and they both of them were canceled. No, they have followings, but no one really appreciated the brilliance. And I think they went to young and now with like Summer House and stuff, they're like, Oh, there's younger. Like, you don't have to go young, you can still just go younger than housewives and it still works. Do you guys find that with Summer House, there's still too old to be drinking the way they're drinking? Yeah. Yes. I mean, it's getting sad this time. This year made me sad. I was sad. I was sad for Kyle. This year I was like this. This was so cute five years ago. Their they're they're like late thirties, right? Yeah, Kyle's probably going to be hitting 40 like this year or something like that, you know, but like early thirties, well, they have a mix all over it now. Yeah, they have a generational divide in the house Beccause you have like Page and Sierra and Amanda, who are late 20s and then you've got everyone else who like mid to late thirties and which I think is actually kind of cool Beccause they kind of like, you know, butt heads in subtle ways Beccause of that. And I do think it's like it is, but Kyle is definitely too old to be drinking the way he's drinking. But if he stopped drinking the way he was drinking, that would be a problem, too. Like, that's like the big conundrum with Bravo is that like if you ever start to like, mature, then your show gets really screwed. Yeah, yeah. Totally screwed up. You either need to lack self-awareness all at all times like us, even when you're sober, like a Ramona, or you have to have a substance abuse problem where you do lose the ability to have self-awareness. I mean, I'm going to be a high functioning substance abuse problem, whatever it is for the entertainment of the masses. I think that really what you have to do and listen, I'm completely behind substance abuse like I'm not I'm not judging you about it. I love it. I do what you got to do. I've had my issues, you know, so I'm not throwing stones. But you know, it does get to be a certain point where, you know, I remember when you know, I'm older and I'm older than them, OK? I do like that. I'm making it sound like I'm the same. Yeah. You know, like being late 30s, I'm all older. And I did hit a moment in in L.A. where I was like, How many Saturdays in a gay bar? Am I just kind of be wasted? I'm like looking around like, how old am I? I felt like I was Kyle and get up in the bar. You know, I was like, OK, this has been enough. I need to find a baby. I need to do something. I just have to just find a baby. Find what actually has. I will say the below deck formula is smart Beccause they have one or two returning cast members, but it's always going to be a new one. So if you ever have. 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But I can see her being like, Victoria, how do I? How do I call the FBI? Victoria, how do I do that? And you like winds up calling like Williams-Sonoma by accident, you know? So I think I would say I would lean more towards Caroline Manzo than cousin Kathy WikiLeak. I used to think Caroline Manzo, but she's got her own history with with, you know, her family has their own history in crime and stuff, but I don't know if that would be pro FBI. Look what I've learned. The point is I learned later on in life watching Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. You don't really call the feds like they don't have a line that they're like, Hey, if you see something, say something, I give a s**t. If you see something, they've already seen it, OK? They can listen to your Amazon. OK. So I don't think anybody called them. I mean, I think Teresa told on her own a*s walking into furniture stores and whipping out wads of hundreds to pay for a $100000 worth of furniture. Yeah. You know, people who work in the FBI also watch television. Yeah. Well, this is crazy. So this is a very spicy topic I want to talk about. It's Beverly Hills and Salt Lake. So the question was from our girls, why is Erika a villain when she wasn't even a partner in the law firm and Jen Shah mostly gets a pass from viewers when it was her company in the same vein, coach Shahs in the clear, but Erika isn't. They're both the spouses of an alleged lawbreaker. OK, so my hot take on this was Ronnie, do you want to go first? You raise their hand. I'll go after go first. I just raised my hand Beccause I do want to go, OK. My take is that Erika is like very much like her. Story's always changing. And like, she's very slippery with the truth, and she has these fantastical tales of Thomas driving in a car you saw there driving off a cliff road, saw a ghost in the Gulf Coast. All of a sudden you go back to Christmas past and you're like, What? I like, please be honest with me, but with Jen, it's kind of like, she's so obviously guilty that it's almost just like fun watching her. Just be like, it was my fault. Like, I do everything. It's families I don't know. I feel like there's just no question with Jen. So I think that we're just like, Let's just have fun and enjoy this. Let's enjoy what we have. Yeah, exactly. And Julia, while we have also Erika just never instead of coming on and what she should have done was been like, I can't believe my husband was this monster. How can I help these victims and turned herself into a martyr saint? But instead, she came on and kind of started saying things that would get Tom off like, Oh, now Tom suddenly has, you know, dementia and stuff, and he can't even testify, and she starts throwing all this stuff out there that looks like, Oh, OK, so now you're going to divorce. You can separate your assets, not pay anybody back. And then, you know, also kind of give him an excuse. So I think that that hurt Erika. Also, the difference between couch cushions for the housewife. We don't care. Everybody knows Tom is guilty. No one has ever suggested Tom is not guilty. It's more Erika's behavior after also coach Shaw isn't going on TV. Like, You know what? We need to do, spend a s**tload of money. You know, we need to downsize, you know, and how can we downsize? So I think people get that people are like, Wow, he's trying to get cheaper mortgage. And also, I think a very, very important thing here is that on Beverly Hills, all we had to focus on was Erika and whether or not she was guilty on Salt Lake City. Jen saw Jen Shah potentially committing like a nationwide wire fraud was like the third craziest thing that is happening on that five percent. It was like on Drag Race, which just like looking for there, like it was like, I mean, it was it was so wild that I was like, this. I can't believe that this person. And just for anyone that doesn't watch Salt Lake or like, follow Jen. So she has a company allegedly where she has a company, and allegedly she would sort of prey off the week. She'd find those people, like grandma and grandpa, who might be at home, and she would sell their personal information so that people would sign them up for these, you know, cards or, you know, payment plans or whatever for you're going to. I'm going to make you rich or I'm going to fix your whatever, yeah, website stuff I can help you. And then they would get on the roller coaster and they wouldn't be able to get off. And then she, like, just took all the millions from people. And it was it was. It was really going after people who were maybe not in their right mind, which is what makes it so sad. So I'm just letting everyone kind of know that's what. And and furthermore, her assistant that was she was like inseparable with on the first season and a half pled guilty. Yeah. So like, yeah, you're like, Oh, no. Like. I think that, like you know, it was you just was, it's just so it was just like so over the top and so ridiculous, and she was also in a way sort of like upfront about it. That was entertaining, but like you also had Mary Cosby, who was like, Does she run a cult? Do we have a Real Housewife who runs a cult and like, this is going on simultaneously? And then they the thing that they seem to have the most drama about was whether or not Meredith Marks had a memorial on a Monday or Tuesday. And so we just and then we all caught up on everything. Well, I never had a conversation in around what name the memorial was. And so like, that's what we focused on. And Jen also came in as the villain already. I mean, Jen was a monster. She's always like, ever since that show has been on, she's been the villain. Whereas Erika was, like, celebrated, you know, like Erika would walk into a gay bar and they just lift her above their heads got like, You just hear you, Gossip Girl for like three days straight going through the streets of West Hollywood. Right? So it was a bigger fall for her. Also, we all get calls from scam likely. So it's like you feel like it's kind of your friend in a way. Well, there is. OK. And we're going to move on to something else. But there's a piece of me, a tiny little piece that does believe that she was not in the books and the birds enough to know exactly what was happening. No way. Stewart would not have abandoned her like that. No, but Janet, yeah, no, no. I mean, she knew that she was in this marketing and she knew it was like highly successful. But like, you know, if if you were to come to me in three months and you're like, Keltie, you have to go to jail Beccause the only person that downloaded your podcast was a donkey like, I wouldn't know any better. You know what a strange law. You never know. All right. Jen is actually really good at what she does. I mean, she's a real business person. She's been doing this for a long time. She was working for a huge Utah company and really moved up the ranks. And if the crime hadn't happened and she was ever honest about what she really did, I mean, when I was researching it, not Beccause I could obsessed with this s**t. OK, like I will read all the Reddit threads. I will research it for days and days in this case, months and months and years and years. But anyway, she was really good at what she did, and she sort of took what she learned from these companies and spun off her own businesses. Stewart was a nobody, you know, like she's even said it, I think, on the show or somewhere. Stewart was a nobody that she decided. That's my guy, you know, and kind of check this guy who was being abused at the office and called a loser and all of this, according to the the streets. And she kind of took him and built him out. So I think Jen is actually kind of the mastermind of all of this. She's the top of that pyramid and she's the one that they've been going for and they've been getting all of these other fish to take this, you know, the crack in the crack and down. Yeah. OK, so the next spicy topic that just it just happened was the robbery. And so someone wrote in the comments. The robbery was an inside job faked by P.K. and Dorit. The only reason she's getting so emotional is that she brings up the idea of her children getting her Typekit, which triggers a response. I don't even have children, and I get emotional when I think about bad things happening to her. Is this true? Gosh, I think that if it was an inside job, I don't think you knew about it either. She looks like to me, she looks really, really rattled in a way. I'm like really someone who like had no idea what was going on, you know? So I don't think that at least I think that I'm going to give her a pass at the very least pick. And when I first watched, I thought the whole thing was real. And then over the past week, as everyone's like, Well, there's no doubts. And well, you know, like, you can probably arrange it. I'm like, Ha, maybe I don't know. Like, I don't know what to believe anymore. And for those of you who don't watch Beverly Hills, do you know she's been in her amazing closet? She's like one of a kind. Bergen's like, she's crazy. And she was home with her children. P.K. was in London and people robbed her at gunpoint, took all of her stuff. She begged for her life back for her children's life. And then, yeah, it was. It was really intense. I we had her on our television show and I thought she was so lovely, and I feel like she's just not someone to go to. Kyle Richards house in a sweat pant. Mm. Well, that's what I said. Very strict. You know, we're suckers, too, Beccause I keep I keep going back and look. First off, I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt Beccause that is so terrible that if she is making all of this up and using that and playing like this victim card and like using the victim shroud is what I call it. But if she is doing that, it takes so much guts to do that. My hat's off to her anyway. You know, like for you. But you could pull that over on me. That's hard Beccause I'm very cynical. I don't believe anybody or anything. I go to church and shake my head like, Oh, this, this s**t was changed 20 years ago. You know, I don't believe anything, so I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt Beccause she didn't wear makeup and she wore sweats, and that was my deciding factor. You know, all these robberies on Beverly Hills, it's been happening a lot in Los Angeles. You know, you guys are there. It's been happening. But really, it's like Kyle, Dorit, Erika, Dorit again. Vanderpump's restaurants are always burning down. What are they like statistically? What other cast has all of this happening? Literally every season? For me, it's a little bit fishy. You know, it's just a very, very like a just a a criminal who loves Bravo. You know, criminals can also love their on reality TV. Also, you know, that's OK. I, one of our listeners, brought up a really good point to us, which was that they just didn't believe that PK would be able be able to put together some sort of like inside job plan. And I sort of I agree with that. I mean, do we really think PK is able to have a freakin dateline? Let me tell you something. Call smart people. I'm so sick of this. Like, they're not smart enough to be a criminal. Listen to in 2020. Are you kidding me? They're not smart people. OK. All right. Criminals on just summer house. OK. Oh yes, OK. We have a crime and our question. As for Kim and Kyle and Amanda from Summerhouse. I think the show shows so much of their drama and not enough of the good. My wedding photographer was her wedding photographer almost and sign an NDA and said the same thing. I think it's all for the ratings, but I don't doubt they have issues. However, I think in a weird way they're right for each other with similar interests. He just needs to grow up thoughts. Yeah, I mean, I we do think that they're right for each other in the sense that they both obviously are. They consider hitting each other's trigger points in a way that, like two pieces of a puzzle, would work out well. You know, like I don't they? They look like a totally dysfunctional relationship, but they've been together for several years. And I mean, of course, Bravo is only going to show the bad stuff Beccause why do we just want to see Kyle and Amanda just like sitting around, you know, watching Netflix in their room? You don't want to see a happy couple? Well, and also exactly people couples in that environment like don't make for good TV unless they're fighting like you really have to work hard to be kept on in the cast of Summer House. If you're already coupled up and you're not like having one night stands and making it exciting for the viewers, right? So kind of that couple from high school that we all knew or a couple, you know, a few of them where it's just constant drama and everybody has to be involved in this couples thing. You know, the girl goes to her girlfriends, a guy goes, just guy friends. They all b***h about each other. Everyone has an opinion about it. You know the girl, once you tell the girl to break up with them, she's like, How dare you tell me to break up with him? What kind of advice is that? And then they dump that girl and then everyone hates that girl all my life. It's just constant, constant drama about when these two people's relationship. And I think that in that way, they're good for each other Beccause they both seem to me that to, like, go through life. Yeah, and they're a good comedy team in that way. I mean, it's not funny, but it's like they're a performance, do well. I think they do well. Yeah. And I was going say, at least they I mean, the good part about them being so dysfunctional in many ways is that it's like more entertaining to watch them being dysfunctional than it is to watch that couple that thinks that they're like America's sweethearts. I mean, just watch like, that's just like the worst to watch. I'm like, You don't know s**t. OK, I have one final question to the boys before we call it a day, which is back to Housewives. Sorry, but something we know nobody knows anything about. They are showing ads for the Housewives of Dubai right now, and I am so going into this ad. They are all dripping in gold. Gowns look like they're at the g*****n. There's more red carpet realness on this ad for Dubai than there was at the entire awards season this year. So memorable. Do you guys? Do you know any insider information like are we really going to see these like I? I mean, I don't know. I mean, the trailer only the actual trailer only dropped a few hours ago, and I was personally a little disappointed Beccause speaking of Ladies of London, Caroline Stanbury is back for Real Housewives of Dubai, and she is barely in the trailer. Like, I was just ready for all the Caroline Stanbury moments of her just berating people, dismissing people, sending people away, candy, eating candy just like it being like I am love candy. And there was none of that in the trailer. So I like maybe once I got over like my Caroline Stanbury expectations, I will be able to embrace the rest of the trailer. Yeah, I don't really have any idea what to expect as far as having any kind of insider information. How I mean how you got in Dubai, like how you had a friend of a friend of a friend of Andy? I don't know. Can I just selfishly ask one question? Yes. Did you guys love New Jersey this season? Oh. Yes. I thought it was like or whatever. So that's great. It's one tops. It's the one off the top, no matter what anybody says, you know, but I did. What did I start the internet to? I mean, it's so good. And Syriza accusing somebody like, now she's trying to accuse somebody of making up stories about her fiancee. But their true story, it's like she's accusing somebody of going to find ex-girlfriends to make videos that he made himself. I mean, so here I am. I love that show, and it's so good. It's so good. Well, thank you for allowing us to, you know, be indulgent with you. Yeah, we loved it so much. So you can watch, listen to watch what happens every single day, and then they have a Patreon, which is just patron.com/. Watch what happens, Ronnie. Ben, you're in delight. Oh, this was so fun. 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