LG QUICKIE: Best of GWBW

Transcript

Let me just back it up a little bit for everyone. And if my voice sounds aggro, it's because my position is passionate. Are you are you getting like Jacksonville aggressive right now? I feel like you're getting like royalty. You're listening to pop apologists. And today we dive into it all like a nanny's everywhere. Being forced to quarantine with their bosses during coronavirus, I reveal my own nanny nightmare spent in the south of France that led to a dramatic transatlantic rescue mission by death, and a 14 year old Chandler Chan wistfully recounts her L.A. life and identity coming to a close this week. We offer our thoughts on vPro and I offer a potentially unhinged defense of Jax Taylor, followed up by our reactions to the Tom Girardi Hottentot poll on Instagram. Buckle in, baby. Whoa. Whoa, whoa. We're here. Episode eight. You know what? We have to stop doing. We have to stop saying, Oh my gosh, we got to episode eight. We got to episode nine. Who could have thought? I mean, it doesn't then still very much faith in her audience that we're we're shocked that we even make it to this episode. Totally. And it's like, Listen, folks, we're committed where the pop apologist. We're going to get to episode a million, OK? We will defy death. Let's not get ahead of ourselves, but we're going to certainly try. We will defy death to bring people up apologists. We will bring people pug pathologists from beyond the crematorium. You heard it in your house from beyond the grave. Yeah, exactly. Well, what are we talking about this week? I know. What are we talking about this week? We've got we're trying to mix up the content, you know, keep you guys on your toes. We want everyone to be able to enjoy what we're talking about. And we also don't want to talk about shows if the vast majority of our audience doesn't actually watch them because I know I have suffered through being around conversations with friends where they're talking about a show that I have no idea what they're talking about. And anyway, we're thinking I'm just branching out, going broader with our topics. Yeah, I think Bravo isn't the only thing we're interested in and isn't the only thing we call each other at 9:00 a.m. every morning to talk about. So we're just going to keep it open and just sort of chat about whatever's fascinating to us that week. Speaking of calling at 9:00 a.m. Channeler, you called me at 7:30 a.m. this morning. I I'm sorry that I called you at 7:30 a.m., but I had already had a full day. By the time I was 7:30 a.m. I currently have two children sleeping in my bedroom. I'm currently in my childhood bedroom and Courtney is here visiting and her two children are sleeping in my room. It's a delight. It's really fun. But it also means that I wake up at six a.m. and take care of a six year old and a three year old. So I already had a full day. It didn't feel like it was the worst. Also, I was calling you, for the record, everyone I was calling Lauren to see if she wanted me to bring her a Starbucks. I wasn't just calling her to berate her about something. It was literally just asking her if she wanted a free beverage. Courtesy of Courtney's wallet. Did they give it to you for free? Yeah, but it was free to you. So it wasn't currency. It was courtesy of Howard Schultz, his wallet, not Courtney. Well, Courtney did pay for the original drinks, which led to the free drink. So if you want to split hairs over free drinks to buy long past those days, I will just say I ate so much food yesterday, and so because so much food, I had the most glorious sleep and 7:30 a.m. I'm knocked out still like I had taken 10 Ambien. I mean, I don't even take Ambien, but I assume this is the level of knocked out I would have been. I felt incredible and just was in the deepest slumber. And then I just hear this and I and Cagan sleeping next to me. Yes, we do. You know, we are living in certain people. And so I pick up the phone and Chandler's like, Hey, what's going on? I have an iced coffee. Do you want it? And it was it was a nice offering, but I can go see me next thing. So I was like, what? What has happened? And it really sounded like a mouse across the country. You sounded like you were under hostage. You sounded like you were being held hostage by some sort of kidnapper. And all I want to do is bring you a free iced coffee. Sorry. Well, I just thought, if you're calling me at 7:30 a.m. because generally you're not awake, then like something has happened. What emergency has happened? I literally picked up the phone because I was like, What if something happened to Lewis? I'm so sorry. I know that that's actually a very big trigger for our family, and we can't actually ever text each other. The words Call me, call me, Oh my God, because it sends me myself, Courtney and Lauren into a full spiral that something bad has happened. Totally. Just the two words Call me, just call me. It is like, what is going on? What is like, who is in the emergency room? Who has a. Threat against them, who has cancer, your mind spirals, definitely, or on the lower end of the spectrum, it's like, Oh, you're super mad at me, in my opinion. Yeah, or super mad at me, which is honestly probably where we go first. Yeah, one time either you or Courtney texted me and said, Call me 9-1-1. And it was not a 9-1-1 situation, and I think I have never been more upset. And just like sent into more of a blind rage by a text message in my entire life, that is actually one of the cruelest things you can do to a sister to call me 9-1-1. They better be digging a grave to put someone in it, because that's how the like Miranda Bailey says there better be a tag on the toe before you. This episode is a lot of death for, like the first ten minutes. So, yeah, so anyway, how have you been this week? I have been great. I have been doing very well. It feels like COVID 19 is over for me. It feels like California is basically reopening with masks. I have this feeling like it's over, so I'm hoping we're getting back to normal life. I'm hoping I can go get dinner with Kagan and with friends. I mean, it's really sad. But honestly, like I saw that South Coast Plaza is reopening on June 1st, and I'm just I felt like I was getting physically turned on like my body was having tingles with the idea of standing in line at Nordstrom in person to return something. We're back to returns or to purchase something. I'm so excited about being in public life again. I will never take it for granted. Truly, you should not. I'm so sick of my only retail experience being target. I've seen everything there is. I've seen everything that store has to offer six times. I've looked at the same shirt and thought, maybe I should buy this and then refrained, luckily, because I've just realized that I'm doing it out of desperation because I miss shopping so much. I don't think of myself as like this shop til you drop shopaholic. Yeah, I am. I am. I love to shop. I love to run my hands across some crop tops and Brandy Melville. I like to look at the chokers and look at the stupid graphic tees I love to shop, and I'm just ready to embrace this about myself. Now, obviously, COVID 19 is still very real and out there, so I don't want to come across as insensitive. But I am excited for when it's safe to do to return back to shopping and the retail experience. If you have any guess as to who is the better person on this podcast, it's the person who issues the politically correct disclaimers. You know, once every 10 minutes. So thank you, Chandler, for bringing us that message. Yeah, no. Of course, I'm happy to keep this podcast from getting canceled. Yeah, no. Coronavirus is still a thing, but public life is beginning again. And I think that what's interesting and I hope we can take this with us is just the joy of just being able to be around other people all the time. I used to consider myself an introvert. I actually don't really think I am anymore. I think like the joy of just being able to go to a public place to stand in a line, to grab dinner with friends, to like, swap saliva, essentially with society. That is, I think that it's kind of a cringy thing, but that's essentially what we're doing. We get so close to strangers all the time. And you know what, if feels good, it feels good. While I can't wait to do it again. Swap saliva with society. That's something I hope I never did. That's like your 20s. Let's be honest. Definitely, you're. That's definitely my 20s. My 20s are almost over, but it's definitely my 20s. And I would say, What is yours? I mean, I'll be honest, I have slops liver with lots of most of society, but that sort of phraseology is just something I will never own up to ever again. That's what we're doing when we're sitting a foot away from someone. I mean, never again will will we underestimate the power of a droplet, right? Like, I didn't realize that around me, people were spewing droplets at times. But now that's what I mean. Like, I understand this. Now I am walking through a rain of droplets on any given day. I had to say to tell you that you're a little too close to me because I can feel your droplets totally. Well, I also want to say I think that we won't take for granted normal life anymore, which actually is a gift of coronavirus. Another gift of it, though, is I think it's fun. It's fun to have times that you know you won't forget. Like, I know, I'll never forget walking into target, standing in line to get into target and then walking in, and it feels like a graveyard. It feels like a ghost town. There's just all these people with their masks on and giving each other furtive looks and suspicious glances. I just feel like we'll never forget how eerie and surreal. Coronavirus the coronavirus experience was, and that itself is special because most of your life just blurs together. So it's cool that, you know, we just went through a couple months that hopefully will be super iconic and we won't have to live through anything similar again. Heard it here first, guys. Coronavirus iconic. My TED talk is over. Sorry. I am glad that you are have already started to romanticize the past couple of months. It's good to see that as your sister, that that's where your mental health is at. I'm ready to forget this completely. I'm ready to not even romanticize it. I just want to get back. I just want to start in 2021. I would like to be sedated for the rest of the year. Now I do have to start a new job, so I don't know how that's going to work, but I'm just ready to stop talking about it. I'm ready for it not to be the only thing that is occurring in my life. I'm just ready to resume, you know, as a twenty five year old living in a big city, swapping saliva with society. I'm ready to resume. I don't want to go back. Let's get it going again. I'm excited for you. I can't wait to Chandler when you move to San Francisco. Well, tales of dating be in store for the pop apologist because I want them and I think they want them to. We'll do a poll. Yeah, we can see, you know, I I definitely kiss and tell anyone who knows me. I basically, Oh my gosh, this is so funny. I was at a UPS store and I was mailing keys back to. I was mailing keys to a friend of mine who needed her plants water, and I wasn't gonna be able to water them, so I was mailing her keys. Anyways, the woman at the UPS store said to me, Are these for an ex? And I kind of, my gosh, I kind of chuckled. And then I had this little moment where I'm like, Should I open up to this person? I was like, No, but I do like, I'm feeling things. All my exes, you know, like, this is a weird time for me. Romantically, I went on dates, but like, there are people that I'm talking to. And then I was like, Oh my gosh, this woman does not even know you. She acts like kind of a fun, innocuous question, and you're really ready to open up to her. Like, slow your roll. You're like, No, it's not there. Not a case for an ex. But I do want to say, if I see that f**king guy ever and I hear from X, Y and Z ever again. Why have you seen X? The lady at the Laguna Hills UPS store was not ready for the sob story I was about to tell her. And so did you refrain. I refrained, and I was honestly very proud of myself because I do tend to overshare as a way to relate to other people. But really, I just end up like talking to them about private details of my life that they don't care about. I never wanted to know, Yeah, so anyways, I'm like, But I will. I will overshare and make you all uncomfortable on this podcast. So stay tuned. Stay tuned. Isn't that essentially what we're doing on this podcast? Just like giving private details of our life out to people who never asked for it in the first place? Yeah, you've got a voice, I guess. I'll just, you know what? Screw it, I'm not a person with boundaries. I have no boundaries. I'm not going to put them up. Now's not a time for me to install any so fine. No boundaries. Let's go. It's truly it's like me and my inability to play it cool with anything in my life. I cannot not tell someone everything. Like, if someone asks me, it's like someone asked me, So how are the past couple summer months? I cannot be like, Oh, it's good. I have to. I have to tell them, Oh, well, actually, I did this and this and this, and I got this. I got this thing done. And this was the experience. And here is a seven thousand word monologue. It's been 30 minutes. I haven't taken a breath. You haven't said a word, and I still have more to tell you about the story. And it's not over. It's not. It's doing over. OK, well, on that note of oversharing, we definitely beat that dead horse. So Lauren, how was your week? My week was fine, but I have nothing crazy to report. Not actually. Oh my gosh, I do have something to report Chandler, and I think I am just going to do this because I think I'm just going to spill on this issue. OK? Speller This is EPP's related to U.P.S. items. One I went to a UPS and lake forest. I think that was the up's, not Laguna Hills, one that anyways, my incident happened at the one freeway. Yes. The one right off the freeway by Guitar Center? Yes. I walked in and I returned to books because I am Amazon's worst nightmare and an enemy to authors everywhere. And the lady had never seen me before and was such a delight. I realize what it's like to be a virgin at UPS, and it's incredible. I bet it was the same chick who was not even, oh, great. She's like, I wouldn't want to read these either. Now she just knows naughty attitude, which I just really appreciated. Marvelous. Shout out ups and El Toro. They're killing it. They are killing the game. The other U.P.S. related news is that I came home and there was a notice on the door that ups had come and that the package had to be personally signed for and so they would be returning. OK. We know. We don't. Well, I know what that means. I don't think anyone else knows what that means. Did you order like, you know, some dumbbells or something? Yeah. I ordered dumbbells that were injured. No, I. So I think I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch. But I think I'm we're entering into proposal zone with Kagan and by I think I mean, I picked out a ring and I think he bought it, and I think it was deliberate. They tried to deliver it. So I am feeling really excited. I literally said to him this morning. Did you see the notice on the door? And he was like, You are way too on top of this, like you are way too dialed into this a so maybe now you're just totally go dark and you just it's happening. And now you let it be a full surprise. Yeah. Yes, totally, totally. It's going to be as much of a surprise as I can be at this point. But honestly, it could still be months before it happens. Yeah, months. I know he wants it to be kind of a big deal and he wants it to be a fun thing where we maybe go away. So he's not going to just walk me to the shore and propose it's going to be a party. And so it literally could be like six months away right now. God, Grant Lauren, the strength to accept the things she cannot change patient is not my strong suit in this situation, and I will hold the full engagement story, not the proposal story, because that is risk that's still unwritten. Natasha Bedingfield would say you can't schedule when you're going to tell the full paparazzi how the man proposed to yet, but I like thinking ahead. I'm just going to say I can tell this. I'm going to tell the full story. No filter on how we got to this day. We're a UPS truck driver came with the rain at some later date. OK, there we go. Excited about it anyway. So that's a great example of someone. Asked me an innocuous question, and it's 20 minutes later. Seven thousand words. How is your week mention? I'll keep it short. The week has been good. I have not been working because I don't start for a few more days, and this has led to me feeling fairly unproductive, but not that mad about it. And I actually packed up all my stuff in L.A., and I no longer officially live there. And what's funny is some very, very bad timing. Basically, on Thursday morning, Packer showed up at seven a.m. and ladies and gentlemen, I've never had a packing company before. I've never had that luxury of having a packing company. And it's a joy. Unlike any other, I literally didn't lift a finger. I listen to a podcast. I pretended to help. I wasn't helping out. All these gentlemen packed all of my belongings, and the only finger I had to lift was to sign for said belongings, which was supreme and pure joy. I mean, I'm so used to literally putting my stuff in trash bags and then stuffing it into whatever broke down car I have and then like making other friends move me or, you know, with the promise of me buying them dinner. So this was a moving experience, unlike any other for me. It did take a turn because at some point. Oh no. Well, it did take a turn because as literally as the moving truck is pulling away out of my apartment complex driveway, I looked at my phone and I see a Wall Street Journal notification that says Zuckerberg plans on initiating Facebook work from home for the next decade. This was some. Terrible, terrible timing, as I slowly started to realize that I had literally just moved my entire life for nothing but no need to fret upon further inspection, it's only going to apply apply to more senior employees. And it's not like, you know, the offices are shutting down. It's just going to be like more of an option. And I'm still moving, but I want to say no one. I told you not to sign your lease. And I said, you never know what the next year is going to look like, but I will say I was wrong about that. You should have signed your lease because you do need to move to San Francisco because you probably do need to go into work like within the next three months. And so it's not going to be a situation where you're just working remotely. Number two, though, before we dig into that, Mark Zuckerberg said that if you are employed by Facebook and you decide to move from a less more expensive city like San Francisco to Austin or something like that, Facebook will decrease your salary because salaries are always geographically inflated and so they will adjust your salary. So it's good. It's good that you sign leases in San Francisco. And honestly, you need to start your new life, and I'm proud of you for making the executive decision and defying me. Thank you. Yeah, I definitely got a lot of flak from you and mom who wanted me to live at home indefinitely. And I'm sorry, I cannot live in my childhood bedroom for much longer. My little sister McCall, who's sometimes our intern, but right now she's really slacking. We share a Jack and Jill bathroom that she literally told me that I should just use another bathroom in the house when there is a door in my room to use this bathroom. Anyways, basically, this house is no longer set up for me to function in it, and working at my dad's office just makes me feel like it's the summer before my junior year of high school and I'm getting paid ten dollars an hour, so I need to get out and start moving. OK? Anyways, that's how the week's been. Let's move forward. Let's dig into nanny during coronavirus. There was this really interesting article on the cut, where they basically interviewed a series of nannies and they just took snippets from their stories. And it was a good mix of positive and also negative experiences, which I appreciated about the article. I love the cut. But one thing that was interesting for me, it was that I follow this prior to reading this article. I follow this like wellness healthy eating workout. I don't know if she's kind of like a just a general wellness person. She is like an app, and she runs this app with like a small team of girls who are about my age. And when Kronos started, she actually moved to the Hamptons. Totally fine, not mad at her for moving to the Hamptons. Her house seems gorgeous, but one of the girls who she employs went with her, which I at first was like, OK, maybe she's going to be there for like a few weeks. Like, you know, she tells stories with the girl, and they seem to be like, really good friends. But what has been interesting is to see how the girl kind of has to be a little bit of a nanny as well. And I don't know if that's like a part of her job description. And so this girl has been with them for, like the past three months, like she hasn't really left. And I see her like kind of taking care of the kids and the mom. The lady I follow will post like, they're cute. They're all really sweet and good natured, but like videos of her being like, This is what working looks like when you're in quarantine. And it's like the kids are like climbing all over her. And it just sort of struck a chord with me about how hard it would be to be employed with your boss or to be quarantined with your boss 24-7, even if you do have a really good relationship and they treat you really well. That would just be so, so hard because you never get to take a break and just like be a person by yourself or, you know, disconnect from that like mode that that working mode that you're in. And so I just have a lot of sympathy reading about these nannies who are stuck with their employer around the clock. I think it would be an actual nightmare because again, like you said, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how chummy you are with the people. You're still an employee. You're still on the clock. And even when you're off the clock, you're still considered the employee and you could just never really, truly be at ease. Never relaxed, never. Were there any other stories that stuck out to you that you thought were interesting? I think I was just hearing that the employers expected their their nannies to and their house workers to drive out into the city and in cars with other domestic workers where they were like really in close contact with other people. They said that people were constantly coming in and out of the houses like maintenance people, other workers, and that they were just interacting with so many people, so many random people throughout the day and had to by virtue of their work in these huge grand estates and how one woman said that she's Haitian, I think, and that a bunch of people in her Haitian community had passed away with super sad. And she basically said it's because we are forced to still be going out and potentially infecting ourselves with this virus. And I. She talked about how her employer insisted on having all these special groceries, and so she had sort of like three or four different grocery stores to make sure they had the toilet paper, exact brand they wanted and then the exact brand of something else. And it was just it was all very unnecessary and not thoughtful. It just seemed like there wasn't any real compassion. But the worst part to me was when they basically insisted that this one nanny hand out to the hamper and babysit, and she said, Well, I can't because my son is out of school and now I have to take care of my son. And they said, No, it's fine. Bring your son. And so she says reluctantly, OK, I'll I'll come. I'll bring my son. And you know, this woman would rather just not have to go out there, you know, she would rather just hunker down and not have to go work and potentially be exposing herself. But anyway, she brings out her son and because she took her son. The woman said that her pay would be deducted by three hundred dollars from her seven hundred dollar week for room and board for her son. I'm sorry. Feed it. How much? What child costs twelve hundred dollars a month to feed? That's ridiculous. It's absolutely money. It's almost half of her weekly take home. It's absolutely sickening. Yeah, it's horrible. And so you just think about like being in a situation like this and how stressful it would be and then to also be forced to go to work, to be forced to put your health at risk. And you know, most of those people, if they don't have that job, it's not like most of them are probably undocumented. So they can't get unemployment, they can't get any sort of assistance. And if they don't go to work, they don't have the money to feed their families, which is just so, so horrible and really sad. Hearing about the special groceries is so maddening because it's clear that these people aren't actually seeing this as a serious situation and which, like, they shouldn't be taking unnecessary risks. It's like we need to have the exact same type of life that we've always had. And even though that these times are unprecedented and you know, we have to be, we even though like these times are different and scary like that shouldn't affect us. We should still get to keep living the life that we want to live. Exactly. We're not going to sacrifice any part of our lifestyle for the safety of the people who we employ. We are going, Yeah, we cannot be inconvenienced whatsoever. And the other interesting part of the article was the one of the nanny said that the dad was complaining so much about how hard it was to have all the kids home. And she just thought, I do all of the work. I'm the one taking care of them like, you're not doing anything. How is this so difficult for you? Yeah, I mean, I am. I'm not going to get into it now because it's too long of a story. But one day I will tell the story of when I was a nanny in France because it truly was an epic disaster and a tale not for the weary. So we'll leave that for another day when we have more time. I could be an entire episode. Yeah, honestly, that that rescue mission Chan. I just have to tell you, I woke up in the middle of the night last night with a little bit of anxiety. I had half an early bird gummy and I swear to you within 30 minutes, I was peacefully dozing off. Early bird CBD gummies are magic. They're truly magic. They are literally magic. I don't want to travel without them. I don't want to be without them. I think it's the twelve point five milligrams of CBD, two point five milligrams of THC. It's that little c**ktail. It gives you the warmest Julius fuzzy best feeling. It feels so good. It's so light. Also, one bottle last so long, it's a lot of product. Also, I feel like I prefer it to drinking at this point. Absolutely. You guys go to Earlybird CBD. Com Use Code Pop Apologists 20 for 20 percent off your order. You will not regret it. Earlybird CBD Icon Use Code Pop Apologist 20. You know, I actually you know what? I'm just going to tell the story right now. Do you have time? Do you mind? You know, I got all the time in the world for you, baby. Wow. Thank you. OK, so I was a nanny in France, and the one positive part about being a nanny in France was that whenever someone asked me if I've lived abroad, I can say, Oh yeah, I've lived in France, you know, like over for, you know, maybe a year or so, I'm not here. So I'm going to say this was 90 days abroad, OK? That was I definitely was trying to trigger channeler because I lived there for a solid four months. But she's always, always busting my chops. Whenever I tell people that I was there for four months, she's always like, No, it was two months you didn't live there. It was like an extended situation. It was like six weeks. You were their nanny and one of those weeks was like in Laguna Beach. So more like a month. This just speaks to your early onset dementia. But the reality is, as I was I, I was hired as a nanny for a French family in Laguna Beach. I got a call. I was 19 years old. I was working at Peet's Coffee. I thought my my life could not have been better. I had a super hot boyfriend and I was working at Pete's Coffee and I was 19. I mean, like, I had my dream job, my dream guy. I could work. Get me out of the situation, like what could get me to leave the in golden sunshine of Laguna Niguel, Dana Point, Peet's Coffee in the arms of my brawny boyfriend. Well, maybe the siren song of southern France. Yes, indeed. A friend called me and they said, Hey, we have this family friend. They are looking for an Opare pair in the cell to move with them back to the south of France. So the deal would be that you would nanny for them through all of August, and then they would move you back to Provence, where they live and you'll manage for them for the school year. And so, you know, I I was a adventurous gal. I thought of myself that way. I definitely thought of myself as a European at heart. This wanderlust that you had been searching for in Laguna Niguel slash Dana Point and it was finally being handed to you on a twelve fifty and our silver platter. Absolutely. I, you know on my, you know, $800 a month salary from Pete's, I wasn't exactly making the kind of money to take European vacations and liberation cafe lifestyle. I thought I was born to live and I took this opportunity by what's a good metaphor? By the bulls, by the bullhorn that feels a little Spanish. I feel like you. You really took it by the kerchief or like the next calf. Let's just say I said yes. You took it by the stripe tee and long cigarette. I don't know what's Parisien? I ordered a beret immediately, OK? And I was ready to go. I cannot. I cannot wait. This was pre Instagram days that my date me. I'm showing my age. This is my Instagram. Yeah. Imagine if you had had an Instagram and just like the post that you would be crafting like a small life update. I'm actually moving to the south of France. Ex on parents. You may have heard of it. You may have probably seen it and movies throughout time, but it's the small French village outside of Marseilles. And oh, you would have just had a heyday with this on social media saying day, I would have probably gone viral or at least annoyed everyone who likes me for who knows me. Oh my gosh, Lauren, you literally would have been famous by now. Yeah, I wouldn't have to be starting a podcast at post-surge. OK, gosh. But you know, hindsight is 20 20. Maybe. So what ended up happening, Lauren? I remember you getting the news and talking it over with mom and dad who are apprehensive, of course. And I feel like mom insisted on meeting the family and then they had their meet and greet. And then I feel like it was like a month later you were off. OK, so this is what happened. I was pitched this gig, and what they said is when you move in with family in Laguna because they summer every year in Laguna, you're going to be with them full time and it's going to be a pretty full time situation. But once you go back to France, it's going to be super chill. The kids go to school every day from eight to three, and so you'll come over for a few hours in the morning. Help get the kids off to school and then you'll come over for four or five hours at night, five days a week. And I I this sounded incredible to me. I mean, we were no strangers to domestic labor, having grown up as daughters of blood. So. So for me, this sounded like no sweat off my back. I, I would be there in a heartbeat. No problem, listeners. Please see child activist diaries if you want more context to that joke. Yeah. To give you an idea of how many chores our mother made us do, our uncle one time for Christmas got us all t shirts that said Servant on them. Yeah, like servant. No servant, no. One Servant number two. We worked. We met our mom, worked us like rented mules. And anyway, so I got to their house in Laguna and the first month, it honestly was pretty brutal. I guess it was very brutal. There were four kids. There's an 11 year old, a 12 year old, a two year old and a four year old, and the 12 year old couldn't even make his own toast. That's how pampered these kids were. And I wasn't. I wasn't watching the children. I was actively engaging with the children at all times because the mom and the dad were always there. So it wasn't like I was just paid to make sure everyone's good that they have their staff overseeing the I wasn't an overseer. I was like a lion on the floor playing with the two, and the four year olds are actively cleaning or actively cooking from sunup to sundown. I remember going to bed and waking up exhausted every day like I was so tired. It was just such intense work, and it just started from basically the moment I woke up and didn't stop till, like 9:00 at night. Did you move in with them in Laguna? I can't remember. Yeah, I did. I did. That's when I just felt like you were gone so quickly. Yeah. And that's I moved in almost immediately. And I remember one time we went to three hour trade at the beach and their house is probably a mile and a half down the beach. And the one of the kids have forgotten something. And the mom turned to me and said, Lauren, will you go back to the house and get it? And we had, I think we had been dropped off at the beach by the dad, and so I had to walk on the beach a mile and a half. It was so hot. I just remember being so miserable like it was just it was just utter misery. And that's really the only way to explain it in my mind. And what stopped like, why didn't you say I don't want to go to? I mean, actually, I don't blame you for being like, Let's see how Frances. Well, they said, it's going to be really hard when you're here, but once you get to France, it's going to be so chill. That's right. And so, yeah, and so I was kind of forewarned. And so I just thought, OK, I have to go to France, have to get to France, have to go to France. This is my warning to people. If a situation isn't good in your life, don't try to replicate that situation or continue that situation in a foreign country. It's just not a good idea. So I remember I landed in France, so the family goes back and I follow them like a week later. So I I landed in France. I remember I took a train to Excel Provence, which is three hours south of France, and this was another reason why I had three south of Paris. Excuse me? Yes, this is the this is another reason why I was sold on this journey. They had told me that the village they lived in, some German guard was the same village that Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt had a villa and Johnny Depp had a place like it was supposed to be iconically gorgeous and just a very rich town. It was. It was stunning. So I remember again in I Take the train ride three hours south of Paris to some Provence, basically. Yeah, the Newport Beach of the south of France and actually picks me up. And because I was on a red eye, I got there at probably one o'clock in the afternoon and I thought, OK, like she'll drop me off at the apartment. I'm going to stay in because the deal was I was I was not going live with the family, which was kind of uncharacteristic. I was going to live in an apartment in the center of town, which also really appealed to me. And then I would have a little car and I would go drive out to their house every day because they were living in their pool house while their main house was getting remodeled. So generally, the nanny lived in the pool house while they lived in the main house. But because they were living in their pool house, their pool house, by the way, was four thousand square feet. So that should tell you about the kind of situation they were in. It was incredible. Yeah, because they were living in the pool house. I was living in the dad's apartment in the center of town, another red flag I should have picked up on, but I didn't. So I got there, I figure she's going to let me stay in the apartment that night and I'll pay your report for duty the next morning, which still to me is kind of intense because jet lag is pretty rough, but I figured whatever, that's what it is. Nope. She picks me up. We go back to the house. I've been traveling for 17 hours and it's active duty time, and I just remember I couldn't believe she was having me help with dinner and having me do all this work. And I was I was deliriously tired. I'm not a person who can sleep on planes. This was three days where I didn't actually find out about like uniform and Xanax, and heavy medication wasn't a part of your life, which is probably for the best. You know, in the scenario that you didn't have access to those types of drugs. Yeah, I don't have any sort of access or know how to how to self-medicate a little bit to lubricate travel and the travel experience lubricate. So anyway, I was exhausted and I get there. I work a half day. It's probably I got there, probably one 30, and I don't leave until seven. And now it's this story makes me sound crazy because what I'm about to say, people are going to like, Think I'm totally a liar, but I swear to you this happened. So the dad had a little car to drive and they drew me a map to how to get back to the apartment have shown me their apartment, but I didn't know how. And she'd driven me to the house, but didn't know how to get back to the house, from the house to the apartment. And it was a full three mile, three mile drive. Maybe four. So anyway, he draws me a map seems relatively straightforward, and then he walks up to the car and the the car is a stick shift, and I don't know how to drive a stick shift. So the dog gives me, I would say, a 30 minute lesson on how to drive a stick shift. And then it's like, All right, well, I think you're good to go. Good luck and waves goodbye. And I had to somehow drive that car back into the little village and back to the apartment to this day, I think a lot of the memory, but it was one of the scariest experiences of my life, and I don't know. I was just a pushover. I was very meek. I don't know. I wasn't a very bold person would stand up for myself. I wasn't very vocal and so I should have said, Hey, this is insane. I can't take this car, but I didn't want to say anything, and so I just did it. I remember I got into the town miraculously, and but the problem driving a stick shift is fine when you can get into second and third gear. The issue is like getting in and out of first gear and not stalling. And so when I got into the town in France, this town and all these little stoplights, the car was just stalling constantly, constantly stalling. I broke down in tears. A girl on the side of the road noticed what was happening, and she thought I was lost. So she was so nice. And obviously, I'm like a 19 year old California girl. I'm not threatening. So she's really nice. She gets in the car thinking she's going to give me directions. I would say she made it a hundred, maybe two hundred feet in the car, which I literally believe she got into the car with and got inside the car. I think that was also because I was lost, and so I was like lost and I was sobbing and she gets in the car. I'm showing her the map. She's she's like directing me and she doesn't speak any English. And then literally hundred feet later, because I keep stalling. She, like, fully just gets out of the car and box it and leaves like fleas because it's so sketchy. So I don't know how I made it back, I think I park the car just on the street, I didn't even park it in their underground parking because I couldn't get it in. And so anyway, I should have told me what this experience would have been like. But it was in France. It was even worse things. So did you ever end up driving the car? Because when I when I make it into the story, I feel like you were driving the car? Yeah. So eventually he gave me like a longer tutorial and I practiced more and I was able to to do it. Yeah, but but that first night, it was just crazy. And then, oh yeah. And then and then they just didn't. They didn't live up to their end of the deal. The deal was I would make one hundred and fifty euros a week and I would work thirty five hours a week and you would have the weekends. I remember it was like I would have the weekends. Yeah, like this would be. I would look, I would honestly, someone gave me this deal. Now I would do it. It's on so fun. But no, they did not live up to it. And I remember I would get to their house at 7am a.m. and then we would drop off the kids at school. And I remember every day she would have like a new list of things for me to do during the day at the house or like errands to run. My days were filled. I never had time between the kids when the kids would get picked up from school. And then once I pick out school, I was on active duty again and I worked from probably seven a.m. to nine p.m. every day, five days a week. So I did. I did have weekends. But the thing is is, and I don't know, maybe people are going to think we just have the worst work ethics of all time. But I, when you're working 14 hour days for me, I was just so tired. I was so extremely exhausted that I just I didn't even want to do anything. All I want to do is lay in bed on the weekends and I was so tired and I remembered that after the first week I thought, OK, so she's going to probably also say, Oh, here's here's two hundred fifty euros because you worked so much more this week than we initially agreed to, or I thought she would at least say, thank you so much for working so much extra. Nope. It was just never even acknowledged that I worked more than we had initially bargained for or been our agreement. And and it was just a really weird situation like the mom didn't like me and everyone always asks, like, Oh, it was something weird happening with the dad. And no, nothing weird was happening with the dad. The dad was totally just nice to me, and there was some weirdness. Not poor, do you? But like, you couldn't be in the apartment on like certain days like Tuesday afternoons through the evening were like off limits. Correct. OK. So the deal was was I was in his apartment, so the apartment was above and Irma's in the center of town. It was it was a five thousand square foot, insanely beautiful apartment. And I. I, yeah, I was living in it, but I wasn't living in the master bedroom, I was like living in the guest bedroom. There were sheets all over the furniture, so I couldn't even like actually enjoy the apartment at all. It was like very much like, Oh, this is a special place. This is this temporary that you're here? And then the other part of it that was really weird was that the mom wasn't allowed to go there. So like I remember she would say weird things to me. Like she would say, Hey, can you bring this to me from the apartment? Because, you know, I'm not allowed to go there? Oh, so, so weird. Yeah. So it was so weird. And I just remember I remember one Saturday. I finally like, of course, we can get to the weekend or so excited. And she invited me to go to lunch with her and her friends. And I don't know that you've ever told me this. Yeah, gosh, there's so many stories that are coming back to me and I'm sorry, Chandler. It's been like 15 minutes, so I will try to wrap it up really soon. Yeah, she invited me to lunch with her and her friends, and she said, I'm getting lunch with friends and she's I think she was her and her husband and friends, and we're getting lunch with friends. We'd love for you to come with us to take care of the girl. I didn't realize the kids were going to be there, so I was like, Yes, finally, you realize, like, I have a lot to offer French society, so I'm being included in this meal. No, when I got there, the kids were there and it was very clear. It was like I was on active duty with the kids at the other end of the table and something else. I'm not sure if you know this, but French people down for like three hours. They eat for so long. And so I just remember it was three hours of taking care of the kids on my blessed Saturday off. It was just terrible. She made me work so much she never paid me any extra. She never acknowledged it. And then the straw that broke, Oh, there was this one time when I was on the beach. Oh yeah, she her complaint about me was that I didn't make the bed or I didn't clean with enough joy. This was one of the things she told me, Oh, of course, I've noticed the same thing about you, and I've just been waiting. Yeah, this was before. I'm sure if I had AirPod Pro's back then and could throw on a podcast, I would have cleaned with much more joy. But you know, it was pretty much drudgery doing menial labor in silence for her all day while the kids were at school. I remember one time they lived on this house that was very much in the countryside, and so there weren't any houses, other houses around and it was like almost on a forest. And the four year old ran into the forest and the turtles on my arm, on my hip. I was holding the two year old and I couldn't set the two year old down and then run out to the four year old. So I had to kind of like run with the two year old on my hip. And it was just a really frustrating experience, and I definitely felt like the four year old was being like, specifically bratty and I started crying. And then the next day, the little boy, when we were driving the car together and the 11 year old, he was like, Oh, my mom said, you cried like a baby yesterday. So she had been watching, like the whole thing, go down. It was just, like, Tarasoff would say, a death by a thousand cuts. This experience and yeah, written that song was written for your parents. Absolutely. So anyway, my mom and my sister, my two sisters, Michael and Chandler, they were coming to visit, and our plan when they were coming to visit was they would stay with me at the apartment because it was a 5000 square foot apartment with four bedrooms. Of course, my my mom and my two sisters, they're going to crash with me when they're here because their plan was that they would travel during the week and come stay with me during the weekends. So I had offered up the apartment unthinkingly. I just thought, Yeah, of course you'll stay here. So I remember you guys were flying over the Atlantic Ocean and the monastery where you were saying, and I said, Oh, are you going to stay with me for a little bit before they go on to their next stop? She freaked out was like, You know, this is a very special apartment. They're not allowed to stay here anyway. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. It was in that moment when you guys are flying over and I knew you guys had to get a hotel and that ice just broke down. I, I, I'll take it from here. Yeah, take everywhere. We took the train in from Paris to some problems from Paris, and when we got to the train station, you zipped in in your little car and I remember you getting out of the car and like, trembling as mom like hugged you do. You were, you were just so yeah, you were just so overcome with emotion, you know, having been away from home for so long and so mistreated. And then I remember I, I rode with you, mom, and all got a taxi with some of the luggage to the hotel and I rode with you. Two like to go and I actually went to the apartment with you. And I remember being absolutely stunning. Huge, right? Huge. And then I think it was like you came back to the hotel and you're like, I'm going to send an email and I'm going to quit. Yeah, I remember collapsing into I remember collapsing into mom's chest and arms. So when she got there. Yeah, so so I I emailed her, I told her, I'm done, I'm no longer working for you, like I'm leaving. I think I dropped off the car like in the morning at their house and then I had a taxi. Take me back to to your guys's hotel or something. I kind of did it all very slow because I was such a coward and to face her. And it's interesting, though it's interesting to look back on my experience, and I know that I know that now I had a lot of power because it was it would be a huge pain to find a new nanny, to fly them out, to do that whole thing. So I could have just negotiated and said, Hey, you're not treating me fairly. And I got in a great situation, but I was when I was younger, when I would say for a lot of my early twenties and, you know, when I was 19, I definitely felt like a really powerless person. And I felt, yeah, like I just wasn't willing to stick up for myself because I didn't think I deserved it. Like, I didn't think I deserve to be treated well. I felt like I just couldn't handle what was being thrown at me, and so I had to quit. So, so sad. And it's interesting things you learn as you get older, you know, and it's just funny because every time people are like, Oh, you lived in France, do you speak French? No, I don't speak any French. The only French words I know are huts and toilet. Toilet means toilet and a hut means stop because I set a hut all day long to kids. The kids spoke perfect English, and so my role as their nanny was, I was not allowed to even try to speak in French to them because I was supposed to keep their English skills up. But then also people always assume like, Oh, I lived in the south of France. It was about the most incredible experience. Or they they react that way when I tell them I live there and know it was the most hellish experience ever. And so my advice to people, the lesson I learned is it doesn't matter like what where you are. If you don't like your life situation, no amount of beautiful surroundings will make up for it, and you can be so miserable and like a gilded cage, if you will. So there's at home for you. Wow. Gilded Age, yes. The Gilded Cage, a poem by Lauren Bledsoe another working title. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, that's my France story. Yeah. If any of you have nightmare nanny or a pair of stories, I would love to hear them set medium. We'll throw them up on the feed. We'll get them. We'll get to maybe go the fun combo going. Yeah, that'd be great. OK, so. Another news story that was everywhere this week was the call her daddy drama. I had only I had heard of this podcast because of my really good friend Kelly Chadwick Kelly McQuillan. She's the best. I met her at work and I adore her. She said to me, like a few months ago, she'd like to listen to call her daddy podcast. And I was like, No, I don't know anything about it. And she always like, highly recommended it. But I never ended up listening until all of the drama this week broke. So Lauren, do you want to take us through the facts of this juicy case with pleasure? My investigative journalism allowed me to do some digging this weekend into this case, and here are the facts for everyone out there. Essentially, these two girls, they started this podcast and they did about four episodes and they got in contact with David Portnoy of Barstool Sports, which is a media company and owns a lot of podcasts. And he basically bought their podcast, so it would be like if someone came in right now and said, Hey, I think pop apologists has a lot of potential. What we're going to do is we're going to put it on our platform and we're going to provide it with distribution. So it's like if someone said to me and Chandler for the rights to pop apologist the name and the what they call intellectual property IP, you're going to give that to us. And what we're going to do is we're going to massively distribute it and essentially catapult you to success. Yeah. So that's the deal they made. And and to get this after four episodes is like, insane is incredible. Yes. So they make this deal. They each their contracts were making seventy five K each the first year, a five K the next and ninety five K in the third year, which is kind of chump change when you think about living in New York. So you ask them to consider a podcast is probably, you know, I don't know, maybe a 20 hour a week commitment from each host. It's not a ton of work. I mean, I would actually disagree. I feel like it. Def, that definitely isn't enough money to be living a high life in New York. But I do think if this becomes your solo career, I think you have to like really make sure your content is airtight and that it just becomes and stays and becomes a really good podcast. That's true. Yeah, exactly. So they sign they're doing the podcast and essentially they get approached by a bunch of different people and are told that they have a really bad deal. And one of the people that is telling them that they have a really bad deal is Peter Nelson, and Peter Nelson is an HBO executive. And also fun fact is dating one of the girls, although she doesn't say that she's dating anyone on the podcast, I believe, because I think she will. She refers to him as soup man. OK, so I guess she actually does. Yeah, you're right. OK, I did read some drama that people were upset because she downplayed how long she'd been dating him because a big premise of the podcast. And just so I guess we'll kind of zoom out a little bit. These are girls that they talk about sex the whole time. It's just a podcast about sex. It's super raunchy. Honestly, I actually enjoy it. I recommend it if you're into if you like, a Howard Stern type podcast. It's definitely one to listen with just your AirPods in. I wouldn't put it on speakerphone, but it's a funny podcast, and it's certainly something we can all relate to, and I think it is a cool podcast. No, no shade. Yeah, pink is being thrown by it, by the pop apologists clutching their pearls right now. No. And and so they the one girl is Sophia and not Alex. Yeah. And not only is it about like sex, but it's about their dating and hooking up escapades. So I can see why she hid the fact that she was seeing somebody in a more long term way because the whole premise is that they, like, have all these different adventures, if you will. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so people were upset that she'd actually been really dating him for a much longer time. But then the gist is, is that they were being told by Peter Nelson, a.k.a. Suit Man and then a bunch of other people that they had a really bad deal, that they were getting effed by Barstool, that they were just their deal is so bad. And I think it made them feel kind of stupid and like they were being taken advantage of. And so ultimately. Well, and you know, like what? How much money to expect? Like, honestly, I mean, just getting someone to buy your podcast, it feels huge like I I can see how they were like, Yeah, done will take it. Like, That's incredible. It started off as something just for fun. Right? Totally. So eventually, their first year is up and it's always normal, even if you have a multiyear contract to renegotiate your contract at the end of each term. And so the answer to the first year they they renegotiate. But instead of a normal renegotiation, which is probably just asking for a marginally more 20 to 30 percent more, they ask for the Moon. They just asked for so much. I sent over this. This offer, that was a. Extremely ridiculous. Apparently, it was just like blue sky crazy asking for everything, and so David Portnoy, Barstool, their boss, basically said, Go screw yourself like we're not, we're not doing this deal. So they play a little hardball with him. And then eventually he comes around and he offers them five hundred k each, plus the IP for the show. After one year of being with Barstool, they could have the IPO with the show for the show and totally own it, which is huge because generally like that is the price you pay for getting blown up and getting major distribution. You give away your IP and a very something analogous to this is that your manager is right. Would you say owning your masters exactly like Scooter Braun owns Taylor Swift's music? Taylor Swift doesn't own her music. That's the price you pay for getting that major distribution. And so for someone to say, Oh, we're going to five x years, no more than five extra salary, we're going to six to seven extra salary and you can have the IP to this entire show in one year. That's insane. They got the best deal and the one with the one podcaster who did the majority of the work in podcasting. It definitely is work and there's a lot more involved, I think that we have learned. Yeah, just putting together this little podcast, it was really interesting to hear her talk about how she was actually even when they got this deal from the original deal, she was still having to do all of the editing. And like, from my perspective, I just thought, like, once your podcast got big enough, like someone else just took over and did all the like the minutia for it, and it's just totally not true. She was still doing, you know, all the heavy lifting editing ones and that's like serious hours. Lauren knows, I know it is like a lot of hours to edit a podcast. Yeah, editing a podcast. I mean, I don't know if we want to say how long it takes to edit our podcast or what and keep it on the low. But anyway, I mean, I don't. OK. I mean, I would say it takes a solid eight to 10 hours, or probably 10 hours. Yeah, 10 or 11 hours to have an episode done. Yeah, like not including recording, it probably takes us two hours to record. And then about 10 hours to edit the what Sophia said is that they record for three hours and it takes her between what she said basically eight and 20 hours to edit. Yeah, Alex said that Alex, the host, did all the work, which totally sounded reasonable to me. I mean, I also think that like, yeah, I don't know. It's fair to say that she did all the work, but she did the majority of the work. And it was very, yeah, we did all the editing, which is really which is, which is 80 percent of it. Yeah, it's the lion's share. One hundred percent to consider like podcasting really. Come up with the content beforehand. You kind of think about it and think about you're going to say, I remember totally pulling the curtain, feel behind the curtain or whatever, but and then you record. But then there's just so much in post-production that takes a lot of work if you're going to put up a good product. And so anyway, Alex, the girl who's doing the majority of the work, she was so happy with the deal she realized that it was golden. But Sophia, the girl who was dating suit man and who was telling her that it was a bad deal. He was basically what everyone believes is that he kept telling her that she knew more and to ask for more. And so it would be like if someone offered like, OK, it'd be like if someone offered me and Chandler five hundred k to start doing our podcast with their network or whatever. And Chandler or I got super greedy and was like, No, I want more than that. I want. And Hagan was just feeding you new demands task every single week. Total Kagan was like kind of driving the ship, and so Chandler and Agent Chandler knows we have a golden deal. Imagine this is her only job. Her financial future depends on it, and she knows we're getting like this sweet, sweet deal and I am completely ruining it. I mean, and I think it's also I think it's just it's it's crazy how they were just never on this like they could never get on the same page. Yeah, that girl really just had someone else in a year the whole time, and it's it's really a bummer for her. And so so what happened was Alex, she basically said to Sofia eventually, OK, well, I'm actually now for sure taking this deal, and this is for me. I'm not leaving this network, which basically forces Sophia's hand, and Sofia wouldn't be. She wouldn't be moved to take the deal. And so Alex called David Portnoy. I don't know what his title is at Barstool, but she called David Portnoy Barstool and told him that she wanted the deal and she signed, and she's going to do the podcast with a different host. And so Sofia, because she had her boyfriend's voice in her head the whole time she got, she basically screwed yourself out of the doable lifetime. Yeah, which is OK. I just want to say, though really interesting, crazy drama, I think you should. You should all watch the YouTube video where the girl talks about it because it's thirty five minutes and it's actually riveting. Kagan and I watched it. Kourtney, her sister, watched it. All of us have never had never listened to the podcast when we watched it and thought it was, like, really fascinating when she was talking about it. So I recommend that. But Chandler, I one other piece of information about this. What have you looked up, Peter Nelson? No. Is he hot? I can always think of Peter from BPR, like in a suit like at the Vanderpump Rules photoshoot. So I do not envision him as attractive. What does he look like? I humbly request that you search Peter Nelson HBO and then go to images. Or actually, why don't I just send, you know, I've honestly, I've already got it pulled up. Don't you worry, Google had filled in the words for me. He looks like a caricature. And I mean, that's the nicest way possible. I don't want to be a brat, but I mean, do you think he's attractive? I think that he's a little weird looking for sure. He's just a little bit cartoonish. But I do. I do think he's pretty hot, really. I mean, he's like, he's like, he's he's very much Don Draper vibes, in my opinion. Oh my gosh. Don Draper was like being drawn at the Santa Monica Pier. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Don Draper, his portrait was taken at Disneyland. That is what Peter Nelson looks like. So I I humbly request that all of the apologies. Google Peter Nelson HBO What if when we gateway into the Call Your Daddy drama? Oh, OK, so anyways. Very interesting read. You see, I'm excited to see what happens, and it's just unfortunate as well that a business deal and a friendship goes south and everything hits the fan. Really sad. Yep. So Don Draper caricatures aside, which actually I've been thinking, I need to like rewatch Mad Men because people keep quoting it to me and I have to be like, Oh yeah, I saw it when I was like, you know, a few years ago or whatever. And I look stupid because I'm in advertising and I don't know all these Mad Men references. And I think it like really brings down my credibility. Anyways, let's get into Real Housewives. It seems like the scenes again. If that's what really what it takes to invest more into your career. Sure. Watch the Mad Men is easy. Yeah, totally. You don't have to frickin log in to like Coursera. Just know, I log in to Hulu and watch the Mad Men. No LinkedIn Learning required. No Lynda classes. I can just binge watch some shows. Absolutely. OK, so let's let's talk about the BPR finale. Yes, I really felt like this episode signified the end of an era when all of the relationships and where they sort of netted out by the end of the EP. It was just like, this is the way it's going to be. I don't have a lot of hope for some of these lost connections. For example, at the end of the episode, Jax and Sandoval are having a conversation, you know, at the bar, at Tom, at TomTom. And basically, Jack says, I think maybe we should just take a break as friends and they've been sparring the whole season. I mean, Jax has actually just been a crazy person the whole season and driving away every single, rational person on the strip on the show, which is crazy because most people in VR are not that rational. But he's driving like the least rational anyways. So understandable. Kind of looks like a a tear in his eye, and he really did look really sad. He said. Like, sure. I guess we'll just do that. And I think to see like. Guy, friendships take breaks that makes me sad, because I feel like guys can just kind of go in and out and not really care. But it's clear that it's harmful for both of them. And I mean, I don't know if you if you have any thoughts on this particular lost connection. I feel like. I feel like the friendship has run its course, and I don't have any I I feel like it was really sad to look at how amazingly they had got along. I I feel like it's it was really sad to see the flashbacks and see how long their friendship had been. But you know. To be completely honest, I think that Arianna Sandoval, Jax and Brittany, these are all characters I do not care to continue watching at all. They offer nothing to the show to me. They're all just like sour puss, boring people in my mind. Oh, of course, boring people. People complimented our vocabulary on the on the show, which is really nice, and I think that's what I come back for. I mean, that was a low point. How it takes like that, for sure. No, I know I. Yeah, that's interesting because I mean, honestly, BPR like took a turn for the worse this season, in my opinion. But I still really like Arianna. I still like Sandoval. Jax is terrible. I have no desire to honestly watch it on TV. He feels sad to me at this point. Britney, I'm I'm like, What did you get yourself into? And but you knew you were getting yourself into it, but you still decided to do it. I don't know. And I was a celeb star, sambo, kadian shorts or whatever. I mean, yeah, when, when, when. Jack says, that's why I make the show so good or something like that till Lisa Vanderpump. He's got to get real. Like, I totally disagree. You think he's made made this show, he has made this show 100 per cent jacka*s. Let me just back it up a little bit for everyone. And if my voice sounds aggro, it's because my position is passionate. Are you? Are you getting like Jack's level aggressive right now? I feel like you're getting like royalty. I'm basically going to send some rage talks as I talk. Jack's has fallen on the sword almost season after season and suffered for his sins for the sake of ratings, while people like Tom Schwartz, who most definitely probably had a sketchy little situation like everyone, low key comments on the fact that he made out with someone when he was married. Vile Tom Schwartz while Tom Sandoval. All of these cast members have just completely like had it on easy street jokes, as has been the villain season after season. Yeah, and yet a show takes a villain, and if you notice on the Housewives, they rotate who the villain is. Everyone will eventually have a bad season. But on Veep, here it is always Jack's, and you could say you could say, Well, that is because Jack's behaved badly. Yeah, that's true. But Jack's also doesn't have to show it on the show. If you look at La La this season, we're not seeing basically any part of her real life. The only scenes she films in is when she's been volunteering for Vanderpump Dogs, or she's inserting herself in the drama of the newcomers. Jax puts his real life out there at all times and. And I think, yeah, I think he has carried the show and an analogous situation is right now there's a lot of rumors that Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin don't even live together. And if you listen to Harry Hamlin, talk to Lisa Rinna on the most recent episode of Beverly Hills, he was talking about how he was so happy that Delilah Belle or Delilah and what's what grey or whatever. Anyway, Amelia and Delilah that they said they wanted to come over and visit him, and I was like, Well, either they move back to L.A.. And why would they need to go visit him if they are living in L.A.? I thought that was because he was filming somewhere and they were like, I think they were like in New York. And so they were. And he was filming on the East Coast or something, and they wanted to. People have dissected the scene. He was really, really referring to being in Los Angeles, being at home, and it was like he was responding to Lisa Rinna talking about Amelia having moved back to L.A. and he was saying the how great it was that she and Delilah had been like, Oh, we want to come visit you. That's a really weird thing to say. If you live with your spouse, like, wouldn't they come visit both of you guys when they come, visit us? And how does most likely then, though? I'm confused. Sorry. This relates to Jax because Lisa Rinna isn't showing fully what's going on in her life, and she's not showing 100 percent of what's actually happening. And these real reality stars, a lot of them don't. They don't really show what's going on. Lala is barely giving us anything this season, and Jax has always put it all out there. So I do actually respect Jax a lot when he says he carries the show. OK. Oh gosh, I got to get off this. Honestly, I do think you make a great point. I don't know. Jax is just more shameless, and it definitely has made for great television. Mm hmm. But I also think that it is Lisa Rinna show. I don't think that she's the villain Vanderpump style. Sorry, you're right. I do think it is Lisa Vanderpump. I think that she has the restaurants. She's created this entire world that this drama has existed in, and I think she can. She should be able to say it's her show. Yeah. And I like all sports and they are the podcast hosts. Yeah, OK, OK, I'll buy that. And they would not have been blown up with all Barstool Sports. But ultimately, they blew up also because of the talent that they brought. And some people are bringing more talent and offering more every season. That said, though, I think I've hit my, I think I've hit my limit with Jack's drama. I don't care about him on future seasons. I think at this point, it just becomes really sad because so many things in his life have worked out, and it just doesn't start to feel like Lisa said self-sabotage, which he has. So anyways, I don't want to talk politics anymore because I don't think he deserves it. That being my dream future VR. Yeah, tell me it's it's we get rid of every cast member except for a star sambo, Lala and Randall. And we have intermittent appearances by Katie and by Britney and by Ariana. And it basically becomes Real Housewives of Valley Vista, where they all live. It becomes just focus on those girls lives. And then we see a lot of Bo and a lot of Randall both bring a lot. And then we just we kind of just see them because I think them and their real lives. That's all interesting. Yeah. Ah, OK. First of all, do they live all live in the US? I thought it was just like Jack. It was all the people who had like the same house who all of those like tract homes. Oh, I guess you're right. I mean, a lot of people live in Bali Vista. So, you know, I just have a beef about that stuff because I don't think it looks all that great. Whatever. I don't even live at all anymore. So who am I to talk anyways? I love that future. I think that Randall, I've done a complete 180 with Randall. Oh yeah, I mean, I'm not going to lie. One of the Randall stuff first broke, and years ago I was like, Wow, this doesn't really seem like, you know, a thing I don't. I have a hard time buying this. But after seeing our story, after seeing James Kennedy apologize to Randall and Randall, just like taking it in stride and saying, You know, I'm so happy that things are going well for you and that you've kind of got your life together, I'm just excited for your future. He said something incredibly gracious and kind to someone who had said he was basically, you know, an ugly bastard regarding, you know, James says, honestly, I was even more horrific than that. James said something really dark about Randall and there was a part of me. I was talking to our dear, dear friend Candace and Lee that was kind of like, Wow, is is la la. I see a little bit of what Lala? Maybe season him. Mm hmm. And he does just seem like a good guy also. I think he seems so eager to be everyone's friend, and maybe he just wants young friends. Maybe he just wants to be on the show. But it seems genuine, and it's cute. I like it. I'm team. I mean, I'm team Randall for sure. I I am not a fan when guys dump their wives. And then, yeah, especially when the timeline St. Louis makes it seem like they literally just cheat on their wives and traded them up for, like a newer, younger version. That's a trigger for me. Hey, Randall is the cavalry right now. I don't know how I feel about saying Team Randall anymore. If we can just reject that because I couldn't agree more. It's gross. Yeah, so like so so I have this complex. I have such complex emotions about Randall Emmett. You guys like, Wow, he really keeps me up at night to think you weren't even going to watch the season this year to think so. I want to say my trepidation is top of mind at all times when I when Randall is not regarded. Yeah, when Randall is not at hand, trepidation is at is is is also not is nigh at hand and whatever. What have you, Larry, of sportscasters over the roof for better or for worse? Astonishing. But I will say that said, I have to say that because as a disclaimer to saying that I love everything he is and I think that he is so charismatic and so funny, I would love to be friends with him. I mean, and I can understand all his attraction. I think he would be so fun to be married to or partnered with. Like, your life would just be so fun because he is so fun. It's fun. Or is he just rich? Like, I think he seems like a really nice guy. No, Taylor. I mean, he is like, he is like, truly, Randall is so just like charismatic and funny, and he's always he's the person who has the juicy story but is hyping everyone up and all. That's great to have a dinner follow up any so supportive. And he thinks everything you're going to do is going to be amazing. I honestly feel like he's a great person with the other thoughts at hand. People trepidation is still in the room. Yeah, it's still in the room. And so I would love to see more of him on BPR. I would love to. I would watch. I would watch Randall Lala spin off tomorrow. OK. Wow. Well, the only thing other the only other thing I wanted to touch on. And I don't think it deserves that much of our time. Randall aside, Randall aside, it's like this character who shows up and stirs the pot she like makes them like drunken, stupid comments to sassy as she's trying to have a conversation with Arianna. I don't really care. The only thing that happened? Oh, actually, there's one other thing. So anyways, this character, she stirred the pot. And like Danica, ends up getting kind of violent, which is like, you know, not a great look when she's asked to leave. But like, it was weird because Lola was like holding this like this check. And she like works at like the Vegas Vanderpump. I don't know. I felt bad for Danica because clearly she was just trying to, like, be defensive. But violence is never the answer. The only other thing that I wanted to discuss besides that, I won't want to comment on the Cara thing. It's just setting up some sort of Vanderpump Vegas offshoot like it's obvious that she's a plant and it's very intentional. And yeah, I'm over it too. Yeah. No, thanks. Also, gross like Max Typekit hooked up with her. I don't think Max is a great guy, so I don't know why I had like expectations out of him, but he just seems like super gross to me now. Dana looked fly as hell. In the episode, I thought her look was really pretty, and it just made me sad that she's still like groveling for max and bread like clearly I know she doesn't like she kind of like, has this whole M.O. about being like, tough girl. But I'm like, Why are you asking Brett if you guys are OK when he literally just embarrassed you? So hard core at this, at this friend, at your comedy show dinner? I don't know. I just I'm like, Why are you even talking to them? You're too good for both of them by leagues and miles. I just hope that she fully leaves behind Max and Brett because both of them are gross, and Brett is like the epitome of like the worst guys in LA. And Max is also the epitome of like the worst kind of guys in L.A. They're just once an influencer and once a manager at a bar. So they're not even cute. No. Brett speaks like a rupee car poem or cow, or I don't know how you say her name anyways. He speaks like that and like an Instagram post. Yes, he speaks like an Instagram poet. And I can't do it. I literally would have to like, get my things and leave if we were ever together. She's unfollowing you. Brett, if you ever put on, if you ever write, some Instagram poetry channel will not be following. No. Sorry. OK. Beverly Hills, New York. Is there anything we want? We've touched on a little bit of Beverly Hills with Lisa Rinna. Yeah, we sure have. I don't have a lot to say about Beverly Hills this week. I don't, either. I thought it was a genuinely funny episode. I mean, when we watched it, we watched it together and watching Tom Girardi was hilarious. It's when Erika was welcoming him into the home. And or was it felt like if you watch that scene, it felt like he was actually like a homeless man? She had like, take it out on the side of the road and taken in and like, cleaned up and dressed up and like, Honey, like, you're going to stay here while we figure out a better situation for you. And I had this glamorous life and I have friends over, so we're just going to actually, you're going to come to dinner. They're really excited to meet you. Yeah, they're really excited to meet you. Oh, cool. Like, I mean, just seemed so when you brought me up to bed, that was like incredible. I I truly like I love Erika Jayne and I believe in their love. I'll go ahead and say that. But I just thought it was kind of adorable. And the way the women swooned over the bed? I mean, what do you think she kind of like led him? I think she was like, You don't have to be done it, like, lead him out of the room. Well, I think that they probably it would be the same thing. Like I was filming some reality show and Kagan was there. Like, it'd probably be like, OK, well, like, I just, you know, me and the girls are filming, so you're going to be here for the intro and then like, well, you know, well, I mean, I feel like she helps him out of his chair or something. Oh, did she help him out? I mean, he just seemed to be like walking behind him with her hands out just in case you were to fall. Oh, really? I mean, I could. I could definitely be dramatizing some things, but I just felt like she had a very protective stance in case of, you know, life alert type of situations. Oh, thank God. But I know. I mean, honestly, while I do not love it, I do not love it. It's a dark reality of being married to someone 30 years older than you. I don't love it. I don't believe in their love. Like, you don't even believe at all in their love. No. OK. Let's talk about the poll results. You know what? This is the part where POV apologists, they have betrayed me. I don't know who they are. I feel like I am suddenly, like, cast out of my country like I'm a refugee on my own. Instagram. Definitely like Cat Stevens. Absolutely like, who are you, people? Yes, we did a poll of if Tom Girardi was hot or not, OK, we were getting hard hitting data and the majority of you said heart. It's a sad, sad state out there. I'm I'm just going to say like, literally my brain. I don't believe it. And so what I think that everyone is saying is that they just find him to be endearing and would also love to live there. Erika Jayne lifestyle. Well, I also think, Oh, actually, we have to bone Tom Girardi. Well, we also led them down a gilded road or a golden road, if you will, because we set up the Erin Brockovich factor, which was truly a hot factor. That is a hot factor. I'm I'm a red blooded American woman. That's a hot thing. I mean, it's hot. If the person I just know, I can't. I can't. I can't. I'm green. Yeah, I'm I am shutting down. Let's just leave it behind. Let's just leave it in the past. Moving on to New York. OK, I have been winning this entire episode to get into this crazy let. The audience of Real Housewives are some of the smartest people I've ever encountered. They put together details and facts and storylines quicker than people at MIT. OK. And I would say that the students at MIT should be shaking in their boots knowing. They have that there that the Real Housewives audience is out there. Harvard grads could never, never anyways moving forward to their conclusion. Tinsley went to China to get her dogs whatever her dogs are named like liberty, property or whatever like it's to. It's one name, but it's split up into two. I don't know. Anyways, her dog's names are like polka dot or something weird anyways. She went to China. She got her dogs. She came back and China. She hung out with Luanne and Leah, and they all got sick, they all complained of a terrible cough when they sat down to brunch. Do we think they all had coronavirus? I hate to break this to you, sister, but I guess I think MIT grads and the Harvard grads can rest easy tonight because the first instance of coronavirus happened in November in Wuhan, and that scene was filmed in the summer in New York. No, it wasn't. It was filmed in the summer. Yeah, OK. Well, Lauren, I would just like to say on behalf of MIT and Harvard, is it not possible that she contracted the virus maybe months before it was fully identified in Wuhan? Like, could it not have been floating around in the ether in China at some point? When go to China? Was Tinsley Mortimer, a patient zero in New York? There it is. I mean, I don't know when exactly she went to China, but I'm just saying like if the first the first case happened in November, perhaps perhaps it is a stretch, but crazier things have happened. We're currently living in a pandemic. I haven't left my house in four months. I'm just saying, never say never. Hmm. I'm going to investigate this further. However, I think it's highly unlikely unless unless Tinsley's dog grooming what she went through for dog grooming. No, no. She got two new dogs. Oh, OK, sorry. OK. And dog and somebody. I just need to look up those damn dogs names. Hold on. OK, well, let's just look up, Tinsley a trip to China. One was that. Just look it up. Yeah, I don't see anything online about about this, and I think that I don't think that you have to see. I don't think you have to see this confirmed case, I think this is literally even on Rita. I don't think people on Reddit are talking about Tinsley Mortimer. I think Reddit is for normies and I don't know, Reddit. It's like fifth Bravo people. I just wasn't a full subreddit for Bravo on on Reddit. I just think this truth has even reached like the conventional channels. OK. The mainstream media has not picked up on this. Yeah, because they don't want to pick up on it because it would be detrimental. Bravo, it's like a Pizzagate ex. Bravo like, it's just a big mess for Bravo. OK, Tinsley Mortimer was patient zero in New York City. Let's just chill out. Let's just hope that Governor Cuomo is not listening to those pod if he is on his own. I feel, as I'm so turned on and be shaking, you're shaking for another reason. Oh my gosh. Oh, OK. So anyways, that was my that was like really something I wanted to do to a truth bomb. I wanted to drop on everybody. Let's talk about the bathhouse experience. Dorinda has so many Dorinda. Dorinda is who I feel a lot of people could become if they gave in to their darkest impulses. I don't know, is that maybe a stretch? I just feel like Dorinda is horrible. I think Dorinda is the person you are when you were at your Dorinda this season is all of us at our darkest moments saying the darkest things we've ever thought. Yeah, she's she's, you know, like we've all said, really terrible. You know, honestly, actually, I don't feel like like we've we've had fights. I've had fights with Courtney. We've all had our issues and like drama. But it's always none of us have ever gone below the belt or for the jugular. None of us have ever said anything that's truly hurtful or that we know it actually really hurt the other person's feelings. We might have said like, f off or like, screw you or like, you know, I don't want to talk to you. We never we never would like say something mean about someone's body or like, say someone's me, something mean about someone's life situation or patronized someone's entire personality. Yeah, we like I actually take a back. I think that Dorinda is actually just kind of a terrible person, and I really like the way she's treating. Tinsley is egregious. I think she's definitely picking on Tinsley, and it does make me sad. I feel like she's so uninterested and Tinsley completely as a person and anything that goes on in her life. And then she tries to play it off is like, You don't even tell us any things. Why do you keep all these secrets? You don't open up or whatever? When she did that last season? Yeah. And then I just think she like senselessly picks on her and and honestly, the way she talks about Tinsley's voice like screeching, that's something that she cannot control. Like, Shut up, Chandler. If you look back on where this drama started, it actually started from nothing. This is literally like we all have a friend in our life who is just, you know, there are people who are not the most fun or engaging or who we think are the most interesting to be around. Yeah, but for some reason or another, their inner circle. When is it ever appropriate to suddenly pick on that part of a person and decide, No, I'm going to, I'm going to now zero in on this, this minor, minor annoyance. I'm going to zero in on this little bit of personality trait that I find undesirable, and I'm going to make it out to be a horrible thing. And then I'm going to vilify you and degrade you and scream and literally do it in front of all of our friends all the time, every single time we're together. Yeah, it's like, it's terrible. Are you doing Dorinda? This actually came out of nowhere. You created this humor. Dorinda is like, somehow, I don't know. Jealous is, like, totally encapsulates it. But do you think she's upset? Because Tinsley really is just like a silver spoon person? Well, I would say that the only reason I agree is because I think that the people close to the scene are calling it out for what it is. Yeah, oh, for sure. I don't think I would have come to that conclusion on my own. But now that they say that, yeah, it does make a lot of sense. And oh my gosh, yeah, it is just it is really sad. It is really sad. I mean, like and then people are trying to. People are making very good. Points are different and they're like, she hasn't had a kid like she hasn't, like, hit some of these milestones that we all we have already hit in our lives, right? And like, there should be like an intense level of empathy for all of those women towards Tinsley because they all have had those moments that Tinsley is so yearning for. And it's really devastating. It's really sad to see. And I just think it makes Dorinda seem like a really vile person that she like cannot possibly show empathy to Tinsley or just, you know, be kind to her or just honestly normal. Like she doesn't have to be her best friend. They don't have to be great pals on the show, but she just instead decides to pick on her. Yeah, I mean, those women were a nightmare to Tinsley when she did not want to reveal like the dead were when I'm sorry when she was spilling about her and Scott, and when she was talking about her insecurities and. Wasn't perfect. They kept berating her about how she basically was on her last, and Bethany, like, wanted her to call Scott on the phone. Yeah, I mean, we were terrible to her. Have you been exposing the realities of of her dating life with Scott for years on the show? And then so suddenly she stops talking about it and it's like, Oh, you don't say anything about your life, you try to pretend everything's perfect. And it's like, No, she's just finally has learned to, you know, be a little bit more protective. Yeah, I mean, it just the whole thing makes me sad, and I think we've all been in relationships and especially the Scott relationship where you like. I mean, obviously, it all ended up working out, but we're in the moment your friends are A. That relationship and that makes you look incredibly fragile, person. I've dated someone who, like everyone of my family, thought I should break up with, and it was not helpful for everyone to just literally berate me all the time about how bad this relationship was. I knew it. I just wasn't ready, and I had to come to that conclusion on my own. Yeah, it just drives. It just drives you away from people and makes you feel isolated. Yeah, it's not productive. And so another main takeaway for me about Dorinda is just that her life coach, which I've got issues with this life coach or therapist, whoever the hell he was, he literally looked like a car dealership salesman. He was not dressed like a life coach, and I don't really know what I expected. I didn't really think I had a penny like a life coach should wear. I didn't have really have opinions on what my life coach should be wearing, but I knew it wasn't that like, I don't want a purple golf shirt. Sorry, not interested. And his office was kind of weird. It felt like she was signing paperwork for like a new Hyundai more than she was getting life advice. If I had a life coach, I would want him to be wearing Lululemon joggers. I would want him to have a Mendonca or whatever that brand is yoga. I would want him to drive a Tesla Model three kind of low key. So really nice. And like, I would want him to be very sporty and very athletic, have chiseled muscles, and I would like, Hey, I'd like him to be kagen. No, I would like. I'm like, I would just make someone hot and successful. I mean, which is a great model for a life coach, but that is the thing you want their life coaches to be on top of life. I mean, all of them to be somebody who like who completely embodies their philosophy, meaning maybe they're wearing it when they look like a character out of Louis Lowry showing their absolute oppo. Oh my gosh, I would love it. If they look like they look like Eckhart Tolle, perhaps any of them really softly or are going to start making a mood board for life coaches who listen to us like some things that can dress like, you know, the type of like jandal they should be wearing. We're going to let coaches everywhere pick a lane. Like, are you going to be the successful entrepreneur, health conscious life coach? Are you going to be the spiritual guru? Like, you know, sitting in your tunic aloft? Pick a lane, figure it out and base your outfits on it. And we're also, I guess, now open for free consulting when it comes to these things. So life coaches everywhere flood into our teams. I would say we're going to charge that up, because, oh, for after this podcast, we can't afford to do anything else for free. One thing also about Dorinda is it was just so funny the way she was spinning a story to her life coach. Like, I don't know why this girl makes me so upset. And I think she was just the way she told a story was so self-serving. It was hilarious, I said. Speaking of fashion in that scenario, Dorinda's outfit, I loved her in that green. I loved her hair. She looked fantastic. That is the way she should be dressing all the time. There it is. I said it. Yeah, I don't actually. I honestly can't bring the outfit to mind. I forget. But I will say that I thought Luann just took my breath away like I was on the floor, panting when I saw her a vision and a one piece in that sauna like Luann de Lesseps, I bowed down to you. You are a stunning one. Keep smoking those cigarettes because they're working. They are working. Drinking or not drinking. You are just the cat's meow on or off the wagon. It's working when you see flashbacks to Luanne 10 years ago and then Lou and now it's letter. It honestly is like a wine. It's like it's just another reason why it's all genetic. She's slightly turned the clock a little bit. Yeah, it really is genetic. It's wild. Sonya is similar. I think Sonya is still so beautiful. Yeah. I also just feel like Ramona is still. She has a gorgeous body, but Ramona is still putting herself into these like sapphire blue c**ktail dresses that I don't think do her any favors. No, and I just want to see her wearing more. I just want to see her in less tight clothing. That's all. Not because I don't think she has a body like she should show off her body. I understand when I do that. I just I don't like the look of them. Maybe they just don't feel stylish to me. That's probably it. Like, let's get rid of it. Hock your feelings on this. Maybe like we'll do in a bonus episode where we really dig into it. That's just sounds like, know complicated feelings that come with Lauren that honestly just sounds like you want me to shut up about Ramona's fashion sense. No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying that there seem no, I honestly do not. I'm not trying to get you to shut up at all. Oh my gosh, I'm like breathless at how remarkable my points are. I just feel like there's a lot behind them. Yeah. Is it that she's not stylish? Is it that she actually enjoys dressing age appropriate, inappropriate? Like, what is it? I don't know. I just think honestly, it's bad style. Like, I would love to see her in like a love shack. Fancy? No, that's it. That's all. Speaking of women, white women, especially the guests at her conversations and c**ktails or c**ktails in conversations party that literally looks like my living hell, a personal nightmare engineered just for me. Chandler Oh, the stiffness of that crowd a b. They all look so uncomfortable and honestly like the faces that we saw looked like a Google image search of rich white women. So nothing remarkable there. Sorry about it. Oh, so bad and no more, Elise. OK, that's it, I'm done. OK. Well, I'm glad you. It seems like you really got a lot out of your system, and so hopefully you can spend less time with your life coach this week. I mean, if he looks like attractive, I'd like to spend more time with him. I don't have. Oh, you mean my ideal wife? Yeah. If he looks like your ideal life coach, I'd like to spend more time with him. Also, where is our are she life coaches, I feel like we're just imagining men as being her life coaches, which I don't even think I would want a male life coach. They a lot of female life coach. Oh, I would only want a male life coach. You are so twisted. I mean, I won't get into it because I know you want to. We can talk about that later, but let's unpack that on the Ramona episode as well. Yeah, exactly. Let's let's have another call. Just dark thoughts unpacked. It'll be great. It will be great. It'll be great. It'll be great. OK. Let's two reviews. Yeah. So we're going to end the episode by reading out the reviews from this week. So if you are officially super bored and don't want to hear what people are saying about us on iTunes, we love you and goodbye. We'll see you next week. If you want to stay tuned. We have had two new reviews this week, which is so wonderful. Chan, do you want to read the first one? I would love to? Melissa Serrano First of all, she always shouts us out and she's like a stand for us on Instagram, and it's so nice that she wrote us this review. She's great. Her review says, I love this podcast with all my heart. Although I've never met them in person, they've quickly become some of my favorite people. I want to be friends with them. You are friends with us. I would definitely drive them to the airport. I'm sorry. I make a point. I guess you'll be friends with you. I guess you'll be friends with her. Yeah, I suppose. No, of course. I love the hilarious story. Stories from their childhood and the hot takes on my favorite reality TV shows, I find myself rooting for them as if they were my real life friends. Like when Chandler got her new job. So proud of you ! When Lauren creates another iconic name on their Instagram page, they're the absolute dream team. I highly recommend Melissa. This is so, so nice. Before I before I think Melissa and I do want to thank Melissa. I'm just going to say, Is you? Did you know that my life has become so pathetic that you got a job working for a global dominating tech company? And they're like, Oh, like when Chandler got this incredible job making all this money and like, you know, she's all success. And when Lauren, like when she writes a meme like, she's doing great, like Lauren's doing great, like she is going to write another great meme, Lauren, you are doing great. It is not lost on Melissa. The content that you are pumping out, you are driving. You were single handedly driving our Instagram forward. I mean, really, we've actually we've actually been we've actually been kind of lowkey on Instagram for the past week or a week or two because we've had family in town and so we've just been more busy than normal. You know what? I wasn't going to say anything but Melissa. I think you need to take on your review because it doesn't accurately depict Lauren as as a member of pop apologists anymore. So please read Dr. So, Melissa, love you. I'm totally kidding. I love that you're loving the means, and I just adore you on IG and have love chatting with you. So anyway, thank you so much, girl. Thank you for the five star. Review your you said the title of your review is the podcast of my dreams, and you are the listener of our dreams. So let's hang out. Girl, I couldn't. You don't have to drive Chandler to the airport. I would really like it if you could drive me to the airport at some point we could just like rain. Check it like, I don't know what I'm going to need it, but I might. No promises Lauren rolling my eyes. I kind of rolling my eyes, either in the back of my head, OK, we're going on to the next flight. One of the sisters, I'm here for this. I've been listening since episode three and they just get better every week. Hashtag Realogy. Witty banter that has me saying OMG right the whole time. I'm pretty sure I'm another long last blood. So sister living in South Florida. Exclamation point. This is by Clawson challenger who cla*s. And now I think she a cute name, though I like that name. Super cute name. It's always shocking to me when someone who is not like an aunt or something like likes or listens to our podcast. So this makes my day another listener who we don't actually know in person who isn't doing us a favor by listening to the pod. So nice. Thank you so much, Eddie Carson. Next. Someone in South Florida, Latino girl. Seriously, I would say Miami is like one of the best places to be. That's considered South Florida, right? I'm not great with geography. Hope at Clawson is in Tampa or South Florida, or certainly not. Tampa is certainly not South Florida. Miami is after South Florida. No, Tampa's like. I don't know more up. Well, you are going to create a geography course on Coursera, looks like a side hustle. Facebook, I generally don't need a side hustle anymore. Yeah, Facebook. Facebook, my current employer, you don't need to listen to this podcast. I totally know the the states. I know geography. You know, never eat soggy waffles. I've got it down pat. So with all that said, Miami, Florida, wherever you are, I think that about wraps us up. I'm off. So I'm off to go make some geography flashcards. Lover, before we go, we have to think we'd be remiss if we didn't think our sponsor, Mr. Lewis England. Absolutely. Mr. England, thank you so much for your support of the Pod. You keep us going and we appreciate your silent donor ship. Silent ownership. How weird people are loving this vocabulary. All right. Well, Lauren. Oh, boy, do. I'll say goodnight. Bye, bye. That's all for now, folks. Don't forget, give us a five star review, hit us up on Instagram at primatologists and we will see you next week. Live every Wednesday. Do you ever worry about running out of interesting things to say to friends when you actually get to see them? Then we've got the perfect podcast for you. I'm Eve Yo Hallam and each week on Book Dreams, my co-host Julie Sternberg and I use books to explore fascinating questions like what happened when a Harvard professor staked her reputation on an alleged gospel of Jesus wife that turned out to be fake. And how did debut author Tom Lynn save the American Western by blowing it to bits our pigeons, rats with wings or wonder birds? And what's the who, what, when, where, how and especially why? Of books bound in human skin recent. An upcoming book Dreams Highlights include conversations with Booker Prize winning author Marlon James, Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Kathryn Schulz and Merlin Scholar Dr. Laura Campbell. You can listen to book Dreams wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. I'm Emily Burley and I'm Jennifer Chaikin, and we're licensed marriage and family therapist owners of the therapy group and hosts of the String Chicks podcast. Every week we bring you a new episode where we dive into therapeutic topics like inner child work, dating, anxiety, family dynamics, relationships and burnout, making them more relatable and understandable, leaving the psychobabble behind. We address the things you've been dying to ask your therapist, but don't know how and work to help you stop shooting all over yourself with the expectation society can put on us. Tune in every Monday to shrink checks on Apple, Spotify or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Be sure to follow along and subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Prepare to learn all about you because in order to grow yourself, you got to know yourself.