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And action, happy Thursday, we are here, we are with you. We are live coming to you, live not from the why not Mark Wahlberg? Why now they can remember when we had Mark Wahlberg on our podcast and I said, Coming to you live from the why? But then I got Mark Wahlberg anyway, moving on. Happy Thursday ! How you doing Thursday? How's your week been while I'm honestly? How's school? How's everything? It's good. It's good. It's chaos. It's it's chaos. Oh my god, I don't think I like posted on checks or causing a scene, but I did a I did a solo adventure with them and by adventure, I mean, five days and like. Not to come on and b***h and moan, but like, I need a vacation alone, like I need to be sent away alone, I need silence, I need zero small talk, I need zero interaction with humans. I just need a minute. I know, I. I know. Could you arrange that somehow? No, I can't. But one day it will happen. One day it will happen. But I'm just like coming off. You know, when your body, mind and soul is like on one like you. Yeah. When you can feel your like gut beating. Yes. I don't even know if your gut has a beat, but like I just need to like, lay down and starfish and just like, close my eyes. Why don't we like, take a deep breath? Because I don't have time to take a deep breath and go, Oh, you do school, you do. We all know I take a deep breath. I'm actually doing good. That was OK. That was a cop. But I I coming off that I feel as though when I do have these chaotic weeks, like when they both go to bed, it's like I'm crushing content and that's my happy place. I know I feel like you've been watching so much like you've been getting in bed because they go to sleep obviously early. And then you swan dive into your bed at 8:30, 8:45 8:30. Cartwheel will be because I finally got the she's not on like a schedule, but I can at least get her to fall asleep after Cicely does. And so I get like, I get like a good, yeah, 8:30. 8:45 till like. You know, one or two, but what have you been like, what? Tell me what you've been doing because I know that the net today we're talking about you are so not invited to my bar mitzvah the same. Huh. The scene. What's the scene we're causing a scene, you said the Met, I said chicks earlier too. It's OK. I know what is happening. I'm so sorry. I I thought you were talking about like this scene with Whitney Port? Wasn't that a show in the city? Close? Oh, wait, sorry. I'm on level 100 right now. Are you wanting to talk about that movie right now or you're saying we're going to talk about that movie? No, I was just saying, we're going to talk about that movie because I know that so many of our listeners have watched it. I just was like asking, What you been watching? I can't hear it. It's really not more that. It's not much more than that. I watched I caught up on Real Housewives in New York, and you texted me and you're like, I'll watch it. And my advice to the public is, don't beat yourself up over it. It's nothing to like stress or catch up on. It's just I have the time at night, and for some odd reason, I can't pinpoint it. It's kind of my happy place, but I don't like it. Does that make sense? It's not good. Yeah, I feel like so many people always feel that way with shows. I think it's just like right now, it might be like your anxiety. Coping with like, this is what you know, and this is what you need right now. Like, is it the greatest Housewives franchise now? No, I but not watched past the second episode. Me, Natalie back. No, I have not. I can't bring myself to do it. I'm sorry, you guys. It's not good. It's not good. No, it's not. And that's what I'm trying. It's really. Maybe that's why you like it. Because I just it just there's no high blood pressure. There's no low blood pressure. It's because I caught up Friday and Saturday night. I watched Orange County. I was super behind. And for those who watch, it's really good. I don't recommend starting it right now, but it's really good. So I was kind of coming off that and then I threw this on Sunday and Monday night, and I'm like, kind of bored kind of put me to sleep, but kind of like it. Very bored, I should say. I don't know, I just I I was not listening the last 20 seconds to be, it's OK. Let's talk about the bar mitzvah movie because you told me to watch it in the spot mitzvah. Sorry, excuse me. Let's talk about that because you and I have told. Quite a handful of people to watch it, and I'm excited to talk. Yes. OK, so we are talking about. You are so not invited to my bar mitzvah. It is so cute, you guys. It's on Netflix. I'm sure you've seen it by now because we posted about it a million times, but there's just something to be said about Adam Sandler and anything he puts his hands on, whether it's just go with it, just go with it. Whether it's water boy, whether it's all guilt, whatever it is happy, happy and it's exciting. And it just feels like a good Adam Sandler movie, and I absolutely love that his two daughters were in this film with him. I love the lily wickedly talented love his daughters love Nadal Adel nauseam as his wife. OK, I've got a bone kind of low-key Typekit. I think I know what you're going to say. Say it. Well, it's not that crazy of a statement, but it's just like, I prefer her on Broadway. Oh, of course. OK, let me just say something. She's not bad in this role like at all, but I'm just like, I don't know, because remember, she was also his wife in Not Righteous Gemstones Uncut Gems. I'm Britain, I never want to go back there, I never want to go. Well, you cannot go back to I got Jack, OK? I believe we came in and talked about that came on and talked about that, didn't I? That was some time. I wish I got back, did don't love it, didn't watch it, didn't finish it. I did not remember that she was his wife. I just like her, and I kind of feel like for people who don't know. Those were his daughters. Those were his real life daughters. And then his wife played his real life wife, played the best friend. The mom who was getting a divorce. Lydia's mom, the best friend's mom, let what was her. They always said her full name, Lydia Rodriguez. What was it? It was, Oh my god, you guys and Lydia's dad in hysterical. This movie was also in. Wednesday, but you never know, yeah, OK, I'm not getting sidetracked watching this October. If I am anybody right now was listening and they have not seen Wednesday. You are watching that when the clock strikes October 1st. OK, well, anyway. Sorry, I digress. I just like. Can only imagine how fun and happy that is for that entire family. Oh, it's a dad, his wife, his two girls, they're on set. They're all, they're Jewish, obviously, and they're making a movie about their religion and about something that happens when you become a woman. Totally. Probably did happen, like in their family. You know what I mean? Like, I have to believe it's like, you're loose. Have you ever been to a bar or bar? Never. Never really. OK. So I went to, as we all know, I talk about it a million times on here. I went to a Catholic high school Catholic, all girls high school, but from kindergarten to sixth grade. Oh no, sorry, kindergarten to fourth grade. I went to a co-ed school and it wasn't. It was. What is it, nondenominational? Does that mean there's nobody cared about what religion you are? Yes. And I had all my friends from grade school that would invite me, thank god to their bar and bar mitzvahs, bar mitzvahs for a boy, bar mitzvahs for a girl. And let me just tell you, they were like the place to be at in seventh grade or sixth grade. It it's just everything that I was watching on the in the movie was what I like went through in my normal life, except it wasn't like Dua Lipa that was playing. It was like. Yeah. Like, can't imagine these days what it's like, oh, well, like I'm trying to think who like maybe like Jonas Brothers? Wow, it was some Jonas Brothers. I don't know. But like, I love the Jewish culture so much. I really do. I in my second life, I want to come back as Jewish. Like, I'm sorry to my grandmothers that are probably rolling around, but like, I just I love the Jewish culture. Like how fun there's so many events there are. Like, I feel like on Sunday you go to church and then it's like, That's it. No, you've got Shabbat dinner. You got Satan, you've got Russia, Shauna. You've got Yom Kippur. You've got so many. So many Christians are yelling at the saying, We have Christmas the best of all. I know, I know, I know I'm zagging. I told Ty to watch this because I said I was watching it and there's the whole daughter thing, right? Like. It's pretty prevalent, the middle school thing, and he texted me the next day and goes, You like that with like a bunch of question marks? And I was like, Yeah, it was like funny. He's like, called me and he's like, So you're telling me some guy is going to like breaks his heart, and I'm like, That's where, like, you couldn't get that. But but I'm glad he watched it because I think it's so whatever the religion aside, I did love. I loved the movie. I thought it was super cute. I thought it was very easy, but like religion out of it. It's just the dad daughter dynamic like the family, the two kids, the two girls, I should say. I'm like, I want you to watch this because yeah, I do want you to be like aware of what our children are going to become as teenagers. And I thought it was pretty accurate, but also it pretty scary. Scare me. No, no, no, no, no, I know, so I was like, I had a couple of takeaways. No, I know. I know. I know. I know. So first, take away that I had from this movie that I appreciated was that they did a really good job of. Depicting a teenage girl nowadays, but without making her, like, hate her family. Like Barbie, like Barbie, like Barbie, Barb, the fork in my soup with Barbie was that it's like, Yes. Don't be that mean to your mom, are you? Well, what do you mean? Like, they showed her being like, Oh, dad, I don't want to go to the movies, but she was still like, Love you like, she's still so sweet. I hate it nowadays. When they make girls like these b***hy, bratty Derry Girls, like, here's the barb. We all lived through it. Yeah, there are some girls who are like that, but like, I don't need you coming at me making me beer. A 13 year old girl because I'm not scared of her. Talk to me in 10 years, but I feel the same. I feel like so often today, or maybe it's always been like this, but they make those preteens just like unbearable moms. All teens are literally preaching like they are unbearable. But you know what I mean? Like, scary and and I agree with you. I liked the I thought it was. I thought it was. It teetered on the borderline of like real but also good for, you know, TV. Yes. And. It didn't make me think of you and I. It's no secret I've said it to my friends, I hope I have girls and listen, I will be happy in the future with any healthy baby I get. But I'm not going to lie to you right now and say, Oh, like. If I could pick. Well, you know what I mean? I love little girls specifically because of the little girl I nanny. There's just such a difference just because my brothers at the age they are now. But oh my god, Sarah. God, help me and you. Specifically, you two girls in high school, like are in grade school, that's where I would say that like seventh and eighth grade are way worse than high school. And I'm curious as to know what our listeners think. Please let us know what you think. It's harder a quote that completely unrelated to this movie. It was just like scrolling like today's show or I don't know something. And it's said like middle school today is comparable to like. I don't even remember what they said, but bad and that alone. Makes me physically ill to think about it. And like, I didn't have this, I have always said like my experience in school and and friends is so rare. I had two best friends that I've had since sixth grade. I went to a small school. Yes, there were girls who were mean to me, but I wouldn't say that like. I can't I can't speak on that, I got very lucky with my friends, there was three of us, so it wasn't very often that there was like wars or fighting. We were very, I'm so lucky. Seven Alexis, thank you. I love you. However, that's a thing like when your friend likes the boy and she kisses him and you like, I never went do that. But like, imagine I never went through that because I went to an all girls school. So Lake, let me just tell you you want to. You don't want to do that. Send him to an all girls school. I'm kidding. Obviously, there's gonna be bad jaw dropping at an all girls because there's only girls. No. And this is what I like always try to explain to people when they're so confused with how I went to an all girls high school. You guys, there's no boys. So it's like you wake up, you brush your teeth, you go to school. But then on the weekends in St. Louis, there's a lot of all boys schools and there's a lot of all girls school. So like your friend group goes and hangs out with the yeah, other like different school, like different different girl groups in my grade hung out with different guy groups. Totally. You know what I do think like they refuse me for everybody. It makes sense. I totally get an all girls school. Yes, there was like we had mixers and it was like, Oh my God, did you? I just feel like gutsy. I all I do is I need to tell us. No, I'm just using Gus's name as an example. This did not. It's just like, Oh, who is dancing with who at the mixer? Like that type of stuff happens. I think for me, it's just more imagining. Because, again, I can't speak on it, I'm very lucky. Again, I cannot stress that, but I'm imagining an all girls school where it's like there's not much to discuss or argue. So it's like, does it get amplified? Do you know what I'm saying? I don't know, because it's like, Oh, they think of it as a mystery. Oh, I get really annoyed with your friends. Not you, I'm saying. Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, we all do. But but I'm saying it to be really like that would be more of a sister dynamic where it was like, you could be mean. And there is more ganging up and there is more clicks because there's only girls, like if they're in a Lexus were on a trip or they were on vacation at the same time, I could go see it with like Jordan and rob my guy friends, do you know what I mean? Whereas like, I feel like if you're I don't know why the girls school just I. I can't remember that my you walked it out. Yeah. Well, it no. I my leg closest girlfriends were always a year older than me. But yeah, you know what I mean? So. I know my friends in my grade and then I had the older girls, but you know what terrifies me? And I hope to God you guys that this changes. I hope we're in the worst phase of this now. When they were tech talking at like no lunch or recess, do people still have recess like, whoa, I need to send my daughter and and or son to a school where they do not allow cell phones like seriously. What do you know? Do people still play Foursquare? Tetherball or tetherball? No, I know like that type of stuff made me sad, I'm like, Oh my God, they're sitting there. And then Sarah, I'll be scrolling on my ticktalk and I see, like an eighth grader being like, Get ready with me on my first day of school. I'm like, you. It's called Bobby Brown, oh god, I was so excited like my sophomore year of high school and my mom took me to get a Bobby Brown bronzer. Now these girls are like, Lather it up Sunday, Riley on their face every day, but I didn't even wear mascara until I was like 15. That brings me to another point which I don't need to go off on a tangent, but. I had the same thoughts when I was watching it about the social media part of it, which I'm glad they showed because that is very real and that is where when I agree, I hope we're in the worst of it, but it's kind of subconscious and I play like, talk to you about why I like. It's not like I'm one of those people who puts a picture over Sicily's face every time I poster. But I'm also not really posting posing or because I don't want her to. You see how impressionable they are, right? I don't want her to be obsessed with looking at herself in my photos, that makes sense when you are for a selfie, I don't know. Yeah, but I also feel like she's still so little like, no, they catch up on everything, Natalie. No, everything. I'm oh, I was coming out like I was coming at your point from the angle of like, Oh, is she going to be embarrassed one day that you posted this of her? No, no, no. Because I because I'm very clear on what I haven't posted, I'm just talking more. Can I just watch if you're of it like? Is a public figure or not, and like you're posting a picture with your kids with emojis over the face? Just don't post them. Like what? What is the logic behind that? I'm not sorry. I don't understand it. It's like if you feel that way, you're entitled to those feelings. Great. Don't put your kid on social media, but then they just leave them out completely. Or I feel a waste of my time. Like, I feel like I don't want this popping up on my feed. And a lot of times it's like, let's say you post a picture and you look really good. I feel like a lot of times it's the mom or the parent looks really good, but they don't show their kids. So they're like, Let me cover their face, because then that is narcissism at waist high, high levels. And I agree. But get on board with that. Sorry. Yeah. Anyways, it's weird to navigate. It's definitely a weird thing that I'm still learning to navigate. But however, yes, back to the social media, it's scary. But I thought the movie was really cute and I cried, Why am I like in love with? Like, why do I want to marry him? Because Adam Sandler is like. Just the best, he's the best, but like never have felt that way before watching him be a dad like kind of loved it, loved it. His daughters are not on social media. I tried to find him. I love that about him. They're not on social media, but they're in a movie. Yeah, but I know that though like that, that's great. Good on him. Good. Who else? So, Jackie, we've had this. Jennifer? Jennifer Garner. No. But I mean, I've been outspoken about it, you know? Oh yeah. Jennifer Garner, Kate Winslet. Yes, I love him. He seems like when I say that they're not on social media, I found their private accounts, but they're private. You know, it's like they're corporate. But as they should be their children, their children and their teenagers. I just I love his wife, Jackie. I love how he puts her in every one of his movies. I love that. And I love how he puts her it. Like, not a main character. Yeah. Like it's go with it. She played the bride who had like three lines in the beginning, you know? Yeah, I just. Any form of. I don't know I know somebody responded to our story and was like, this is so like narcissist like this is. Nepotism, I'm Mike. Come on. Yeah, but I don't think he's denying that, but. Oh, but like let people. I don't know. Like, Are you kidding me if my dad was Adam Sandler? Yes, I would want to be in his movies when he's put them in one movie. And I would almost argue the oldest daughter, like, wasn't really. I mean, she was in it, but like the older the oldest daughter was. So the writing was so good because she was she was so me. Laz hadn't heard she was younger, and I would like remember the one scene where she went in and she's like, Hey, do you guys want to come? We're going to go get ice cream? Or, she said something like that was so me, like, I was trying to be like, Cool, but I'm like, Wait, I kind of want to hang out with you guys like you guys, like when I'll drive you guys to go get trauma in St. Louis while watching. I felt like she was so him like her comedic timing. Her, her, just her comedy. I feel like she's him, and I felt like the younger is totally the wife. We talk about the embarrassing video. Stop. No, no, no, no. But like they did such a good job of making that so embarrassing. Like if they embarrassed any of my friends, they could single handedly ruin my life from videos that they have of me from grade school, high school, college, like, you know, like now just when they surprise you. That's why saved cracking up. I'm like, Why am I watching? No, I know that. Maybe that's what I am. I don't know. No. But she took her man, your dog, your dog when you're a kid. I know you are. And that's when, of course, it was the mom. Of course the mom likes it. How about when Adam Sandler's wife in real life went up to the door and was like, Hey, is this a bad time? And like Adam Sandler and the daughter having a screaming match with each other, just the camera, that's good. What's up? Well, what I to, I love him. What is your favorite? Like, what are your top three Adam Sandler movies? OK, this is people rep on me for this, I would say that grown ups is like maybe a top 10 comedy of mine. OK, so grown ups. Big Daddy, home grown ups, big daddy. And I have I love Waterboy just because, like Bobby loves it. I don't know. Happy Happy Gilmore. Just to me is like a basic one that everybody said, What are yours? Mine are? First things first. Now I'm going off of like to me, a favorite means you could watch it endless times. Not that it's like the bow. Like, Oh, 51st state. I was going to say, for me, it's just go with it. No one himin Jennifer Aniston. Just do for me what I can't do for myself like you. He she she he then is it? That is classic and 51st dates for sure. I love. I also feel like Big Daddy. It's not like it's my favorite movie, but I got up that came out at a time where. It was like cassettes, so you just kind of watched the same movie that you had over it, like that was a movie that like my dad liked, we liked, you know, we were always watching that. Honorable mention to when I watched Click for the first time and my boyfriend and I and I still broke up shortly after it. And I shortly. I mean, on the drive home. So like a click click is the movie to me where you would go? Your parents would take you to blockbuster on a Friday night, and there was one movie that you always wanted to watch, but it was like two inappropriate for you to watch at the age. I always wanted to watch click because it was in the shape of a remote or there was a remote on the Yes, and it's super dark, super dark. Was he Spanglish? I think. Forget everything I just said. Forget everything I just said, Take away Big Daddy, Mr. Deeds. Hands down, Mr. Deeds have never seen Mister Deeds. I don't think now I have it. They all kind of run in the same Natalie tonight. Do not speak to me until you and Bobby partake in whatever you want to partake in and throw on Mr. Deeds. We could. Whoa, what a line up. Winona Ryder, John Turturro, you know. I love John Turturro. Peter Gallagher. No, Natalie. Natalie, Natalie, Natalie, Natalie. You're serious. You haven't seen it. Now, Steve Buscemi, he's always in those. I love that he puts all his friends in his movies like God. I am sneaky, sneaky, sneaky Natalie. OK, I'll watch it tonight. I'll watch it tonight because I'm riding the high of a romcom are not a rom com, but, you know, like the feel good movie train. Yes. You just asked me a question, and I wanted to ask you a question because I asked some of our listeners on Instagram if you could live in a TV show for a week. What would it be? My answer is Friday Night Lights, because I never got exactly what we were talking about. I never got like the boy big football team cheerleader situation in high school that I always wanted. OK, I'm glad I didn't have it, but I always wanted that, so I would love to live. I would love to be Lyla Garrity. And yeah, I feel like if I didn't watch Friday Night Lights for years because I was like, I loved it. I don't care to see like you were in Texas. Yeah, I know football like, Oh, OK, OK, OK, hold on. If I could live in a TV show just had we had listeners write in their answers, do you have to read some of them while you think or do you want to tell me first right off the bat? Only because it's my first memory of TV. I have to say growing pains because I know you probably haven't seen, but it was what I watched when I was like five, six, seven and they were a family. And I just remember I loved the mom. I loved. Oh yeah. OK. But but let's keep going. Reading was some a lot of people, said the original Gossip Girl, a white lotus, oh, you know? Yeah, I wouldn't. I was on yours. I never want to go back to high school like I never want to ever be back in high school. Um, white lotus was a good one. The West Wing was also an answer. So was it good? I read the I listened to this question wrong. I thought you said like family wise, because I don't know. I guess, you know, like also TV show in general. Yeah. Like if you have scandal like scandal, I'd want to work for Olivia Pope. OK. Cannot say the same. I don't know why that show started to bug me halfway through. But nothing like the first. Oh, I mean, hello, if we're going to get real, real, real, like obviously I'd love to be like, I'd love to be Samantha Jones and Sex and the City like I would love. That was that was what I was. Other girls wrote along the lines of like, if you could go be with 8V family. Well, it's at your discretion, it's whatever you want my question to be. There was another this was a really good one and I haven't seen it. Somebody said Bridgerton and like, I don't disagree, like I. Ah, the crown. Like I love to go be in a period of, I would say, Gilded Age if we're going to go back to that Gilded Age. HBO absolutely loved it. OK, I have another question. OK. Who is your favorite TV mom of all time? My favorite TV do, I'm going to read some answers while you think. No, because I don't. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I can do that. Who was yours? Somebody wrote mine. OK, well, tell me. Claire Dunphy. Modern Family. I love her. I love her in that role. I love that show. That show makes me feel wholesome. That show makes me feel good. Claire, don't pay for it, mom. I mean, again, for some reason, I'm going back to the 90s. OK, but I can't. I don't know, read me sound like, OK. Some people said Connie Britton Friday Night Lights, seamless soprano. Unbelievable answer. You know Lorelai Gilmore OK. Totally. Great answer. Silly Texan, she wrote this, and I don't know who this is. I love her, I love her too. Lady Mae Greenleaf loved Greenleaf, I don't know what that is. Lady Mae Greenleaf, I mean, maybe she's in. Moira Rose was another mom since one week would be a fun one to live in for a week. Claire Huxtable, she was a great mom. She was a great mom. Claire Huxtable Oh. OK, God, these are good ones. Here's Stephen Cohen from The O.C. The O.C. would have been a good one to to live in for a week. Yeah, yeah, yep. He asserted that show the oath. He took such a turn. It got so dark. I I don't know why I'm going back to 90s. Maybe because I'm thinking, like if I'm a kid, who would, I want my mom to be, but. Oh. Rebecca Pearson, this is us. You guys, I could I watch one season of that show. I was in a fetal position to the people that watched this disaster. There's something wrong with you. You want pain. You want pain and you want sadness. I watch before kids. Yes. I can't think of who I would. What mom, I'm Reba Hart. Is that Reba McIntyre? Maybe Reba Reba? I will tailor home improvement. OK, that's see. OK. OK, I'm Karen from One Tree Hill. I never watched One Tree Hill. Me, neither Kate from working moms. Aunt Becky from Full House and Becky from Full House, I think that's it for me. Great mom. She is full house with mother character. Fun to live in. Full house with like, OK, but you had but. Yeah. I should have specified my original question with the age. Yeah, OK. Yeah, yeah, because it's like, do you like, OK, knowing what you know now? You go back and you live in a TV show for a week, I think my answer is still. Friday night lights like Full House would be fine, but like the lake. But it's what my house is right now, a full house. But I need to escape the full house. These are good questions. And when we when this episode comes out, I want you to post a slide of like full house and all the shows we talked about. And I want people's ideas because like I said, my brains out in 10000 thousand, I have to like start to dip, but I can't think, but I feel like everything everyone was saying also, because it's like, OK, I start, I start it. Hulu shows. I'm like, Okay, what Hulu show? OK, what Netflix show like? I can't think of every show I've ever watched. And now? What if you said, Kathy Hilton? I wasn't even thinking reality. Yolanda Hadid gray out, Gigi Hadid, the arm and the arm, and not the cake. Great questions. Before we wrap up, we have. Well, just before we get to we're watching next week, we had two new songs come out Selena Gomez, Miley Cyrus. I know I have been Miley, I'm teen Miley over. I like to listen right now. But like it's I've heard clips of the Miley one and I like it. Of course, it's emotional. Like, I'm not really. I don't need to be more emotional than I already know, but I did. Yes, Zach Ryan's new album. Well. Who is Zach Bryan and when did the world become obsessed with him? Tick tock. He. No, no, no. He's been around for a while. His voice is like his tie. All of a sudden, like six months ago, only listens to this guy. He's so good. His new album, so good. But he's now. Where did he come from? A chicken fry. I think kind of a reason why he's resurfacing is. Well, he's been a singer for a while, but like now, he's dating Briana Chicken Fry from Barstool. There's all this drama between that. I don't know. It's he's popped up on my TikTok feed, but OK, that album is great if you want a new album. But for next week, I know I said that last week I would watch it, but I went the rom com happy movie out. This week I will be watching painkillers and I and our painkiller, and I know that so many people, so many of our listeners, voted for me to watch that over. That Jennifer Lawrence movie, which I liked a lot, but I'm watching that it was like it was killer. Jennifer Lawrence looks insane. And she's full on naked in the movie, and I was just like, Whoa. Oh, good for her. She looked incredible. I won't be watching them because she had a baby and I had a baby and I'm not going, There, are you anywhere? You look incredible. But what are you watching for next week? I'm going to finish in just like that, and I'm going to come on and give a full a full full. Okay. We got to talk about the finale. I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen yet. I'm on episode eight and I've stayed off social. Mean, I like I. You sent me that. I didn't watch it. I have not seen how SJ comes back, but they got renewed for a third season. So against all odds, I'll take it kind of. I'm not mad. She's not mad. The last three episodes of the second season, it got good. I call her call it a New York thing, but something about something about falling asleep, too. And just like that in Real Housewives of New York, it's like slowly killing me. But I'm loving it. Not mad at it. It's like, it's it's there and we appreciate it, really. So let's recap. You'll do painkiller Taylor and I'll do and will both do. And just like that. OK, I'm excited for you to see Samantha Jones grace your screen. It's going to make you so mad that they're not friends in real life. It's going to be it's going to make you mad. Oh, because she's on the screen for 30 seconds and you're like, Oh my God, I'm not. I'm not saying. Well, you know that she's not in the whole episode. No, I know. But don't tell me anything. Cameo. I'm not. I'm not. No, I know. I know. It's going to make you so happy and so annoyed that they're not friends because, oh my god, imagine what the show would be if she was in it. Totally, totally. You're right, but I can't compartmentalize them. So like because they all hate her and she's so hates them. I like, I don't know. We'll see how I feel. But like, OK, OK, we'll talk about next week. I have so many feelings we'll talk about next week. OK. Oh God, OK. OK. I thought you were going. I thought you were going to say. And just like that this episode, you know how she always and just like that, I went to Aidan's Farm and just like that, I couldn't help but wonder what Sarah will think when Samantha Jones pops on. Until then. And see you.