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I mean, do you think that as women, we think we look better one way, but like, probably actually look better another way, and we're committed to the one way we think we look better. So that's the way we get ourselves ready. Yeah, I mean, that's why there's like trends from what like twenty six, where our are. Do you follow Isabella Clancy or Isabel Clancy on TikTok? And she does like the throwback one. OK, I'll send you one of her videos. She she does like a throwbacks from when we were in high school and the one that she did like this like, like drawing our eyebrows on when we were in high school and then like the really thick bronzer. And it was just like we thought we looked so good and we walked around like that. But like, we knew other people didn't look good like that. So why were we doing it? I have no idea, but I do remember. I don't ever remember doing my brows like in high school. I still don't do my brows. I've never filled in my brows. Only when I get my makeup done to my eyebrows get filled in less than a brow pencil used to be that like scariest thing to me in the world. I was just terrified. I'm kind of still terrified of it, which is why I do the lash tinting or whatever are the brow tinting, because then I don't. I just really don't have to fill anything in. I just brush them out. I'll tell you a funny trend that trend absolutely hates, and he's like, Never do this trend. Laminated brows and coughing fingernails I can't do. I love the I laminated brow look on some people on. Some people look scary because it's like spikes. And I'm not into too much, but I definitely have done. I don't do the coffin nail thing anymore, but that is, yeah, that's a no. Like that was very short lived for me. Once I broke a couple and they hurt, I was like, Never again. Listen, there is. I truly think you see, when I wore acrylics, which was probably I don't even know how many years ago it was whenever I was in high school. I think that was probably the last time I wore an acrylic, and that's worse than childbirth. If you ever break one, I've had them snap off in the middle of my nail bed. Not even like the top, but like the middle and my full real mail off. Horrible. Do you have toenails right now? These are DiGiorgio. No toenails. Oh, toenail. I had toenails right now. Yeah, you do. Are they? Are they acrylic? Now they're they're my real nails now. So. Oh, so they're all blown out and you're doing your best? Yeah, I'm living my best life right now. I need to tell you, if you guys hear anything at my house, it's because my washing machine has been going for hours at this point and I put something in there that might, shouldn't be in there. So it might be one of those situations where it's like, you know, what was it? What did you put in your what did you put in there, specifically a large comforter? So I did that. The other get like three four days ago and my washer would just like start beeping at me because the water couldn't spin out of it. So I would just keep it in the spin bar and just spin the water out and it still wouldn't come out. So I just said Bucket pulled it out. So what did you do with the water that was still on? I don't know. I let a lot to deal with it, so I wasn't dealing with it. See, that's why we all need hot neighbors, because that really works out in your best interest. I don't have that situation going on. And in fact, when I first started seeing each other, I was very committed to my organization and staying on top of things at that point and like not letting anything fall behind. I was like in that era of post-breakup getting myself back together. It was not too long after I had my closets done and had ripped everything out, trying to organize everything. So I had met him for like a quick I would call it like Linor, you know, like, not like. Lunch or dinner? Yup, met him for like a quick learner, and I think we both still wanted to hang out, but I was so committed to what I had going on at home and I was like, Listen, I washed my duvet and so I have to go home and I can't just like, let it sit in there. It'll it'll be stinking and it'll be ruined. Could you not? I had planned to hang out with him later that night. It took me six hours to get that thing, to send all the way out to the point that I was crying and not f**king washing machine. Was like halfway across my laundry room. By the time I got done. So do you do dry cleaning now or what? No, I just don't use a duvet, which is crazy that you bring that up. So do that. I tried putting one on one before, like I had gotten one from Pottery Barn. Years and years and years ago after my divorce? Well, I mean, it was one sense because I cried trying to figure out how to put it on. I was so pissed off. I was so upset. I recently found my Brooklyn in one, and I have the quince like rinse quince down comforter, and I've just been using it as a down comforter. I haven't put anything over it, so I washed the Brooklinen duvet cover, bleached it and it was brand new. I hadn't even opened it. So it's somewhere between the moves over the last two years, it just got lost in the sauce. So I'm now using my Brooklinen duvet cover over my quince down comforter and I'm obsessed with it. But I think when the time comes, I'm just going to have to take it to dry cleaning because I'm not dealing with that and I'm never putting my comforters in my washer again. Because when I tell you, pulling first of all was heavy as hell. I'm not. I don't have any upper body strength. I know how hard it was to pull that s**t out of the out of the washer. Yeah, no. And it's just not a good idea. Listen, I can tell every single person the amount of things that I have ruined and wash cycles by thinking that I know how to do something that I in fact do not know how to do. I'm not even kidding, like clothing pieces that I absolutely love, and then I'll go in there and I'm like, Oh yeah, I shouldn't wash those two things together, so I'm just gonna throw it away. Like, there's no coming back from this. I hate when that happens. One of my girlfriends said that she doesn't wash anything she or sorry. No, that's disgusting what I meant. What I meant to say was that she doesn't derive anything because she's like, Alpha can ruin it. She's like, Everything will get ruined, so I don't drive anything. She puts her kids clothes in the wash, in the dryer, but any of her stuff, she doesn't know what's what. So she just puts everything out to like dry air, dry in her basement. Wait, so does she have like a whole thing dedicated to like a drying room? Wouldn't that be so nice? I don't know. Going to a basement to like, hang up clothes. It's just going to go in the dryer. If it gets ruined, f**king I wear ruin things all the time. You do. I want to tell you a lesson that I learned this week. OK, wasn't a lesson that I wanted to learn, but it was a lesson in co-parenting. You cannot always expect that someone's going to return favors that you're willing to do for them 100 percent. And you cannot expect that because things are regularly good that they will always be there. I hate that, though, because when things are good, I get so stuck in the good. Like, I am like, OK, like, I mean, at some point and now I'm to the point where it's like, I just wait for the other shoe to drop. Or I was in that place for a long time, but for a long, long time it was like I would just be so stuck in the good that I was like, It's never going to go back. And then it would shock the s**t out of me as if I didn't know this person. And this is why we're not together in the f**king first place. Listen, I any time that we ever have. Which is very rare. You know this, but any time we ever have, like a co-parenting dispute over something, the first thought that comes to my head is, this is this is why we're divorced. I don't know why that is my first thought, because it's really not even about that because we would probably be having some of these same problems if we were together. But I'm like, You know what? This is why I don't deal with you regularly on a on a daily basis and why we don't live under the same roof because of how it's because of how they handle the dispute or whatever, whatever the subject is at hand. That's what because I feel the same way like this is why we're not together, because the way that you're handling this is absolutely insane. And then I get questioned for coming out of pocket on something, and it's like, you know, why if you would have governed yourself accordingly from the job? I wouldn't even have a reason to come out of pocket because if I'm specifically just going off of what is court ordered that you are court ordered to do and I have followed every bit of that protocol sent the emails that need to be sent given you ample time to respond. Try to remedy these issues amicably. Sit down and have a conversation with you privately. Not involve our minor child in parenting. Things tried to do all of that. And then. Mediately, when you say, OK, next step is a mediation, the names that you get call, it's like, did you read what you signed and what you agreed to? Because if you did, I'm quite confused on how that makes me a psychopath at that point. Oh, he's name calling you. Yeah. OK, OK. I thought you were saying basically saying, like, it's no surprise that I'm even calling your name calling him. But no, I mean, the point that you are like, Oh, what did you do? You know what you read? Like, I don't like, I'm not. I'm not following. I mean, I think the problem is is when you go through a divorce, I think that you argue a lot over small things that probably don't matter in the grand scheme of things. And then you don't argue or place enough emphasis on the things that actually do matter that are more long term things. And I have truly thought about us starting some type of consulting business on how to consult women on how to form a parenting plan that is in their best interest. Because and I will say that to be, listen, I'm a mom, so I'm going to I'm going to ride with the moms, like, I don't really care. However, when you're in this situation of divorce and you're just ready to get out, you agree to all of these things and say, I agree to them. You sign your name to these things and say, I'm an agreement to these things, and then you never read it again. And then you tell someone that's not what's in it when you get called on your s**t because I read it all the time. Yeah. And before I ever send an email, if it gets the point of sending an email, the parenting plans always pulled up and referenced. I have a situation where we are all like we only email and are constantly referencing the agreement, and you just have to call bulls**t like, you're like, OK, well, this isn't the parenting plan. And then the other person will be like, Oh, f**k ! You know what I mean? But the fact that you have such a thorough parenting plan and there's still an argument or a question on whether you all should go to mediation or not is insane. OK? In the event of domestic travel, I'm going to give you an example. OK. So for people who don't know domestic travel is within the country, yes, within the United States. Mm-Hmm. In that case, I don't care if someone feels like this is overreach. I don't care if anybody who's listening says this is overbearing, don't really care because at the end of the day, we both agree to these terms. We both felt they were fair, evidently, or else his attorney wouldn't have agreed to it and he wouldn't have agreed to it. Domestic travel is specifically notated in there, and there's international travel specifically notated, and there are different things that you have to do for each of those things took Jackson on a trip ahead of this trip. I requested all of the things that I am allowed to request for, like physical address, date and time of travel. What dates they're going, what dates they're coming back. Who's going to be present on this trip? Those are all valid questions, in my opinion. Now am I going to go to this address? No. Am I going to map this address? No. But any event there was something that happened while Jackson was gone and he called me. I would at least be able to pinpoint exactly where he was, right? And that's fair. I also want to know because I am no longer married to Will. It was going to be residing in that home during the time that my child is down there. In the event that anything, God forbid, something horrible came up later down the road. At least I would be able to go back and reference and say, OK, well, these were the people that were in this house when this happened. So these are the people that I can go to. But what do you do when they're not? Because that's not in my parenting plan, but I have asked that information and the father refused to give it to me. I mean, I don't even know where he lives for f**k's sake. Like, I only know the general area. So like, what do you do when they refuse to give the information? Well, unfortunately, if it's not in the parenting plan, the way they choose to govern themselves and the way you choose to govern yours is, I guess, just up to them or up to you. That's why it's in my parenting plan, because it can be enforced. So when I have given time to get all this information to me, I sent it the request way ahead of time, as I always do and never hear anything. This and tyre trip. Nothing. Sons phones turned off. So where I could have been able to get his location off of his phone, the phone's turned off, or either the location turned off so I can get that either. So didn't talk to them for the entire time on the trip, which is fine. But if that's how we're going to operate, then we should both be operating that same way. So I shouldn't be encouraging him to call you because that's the right thing to do when he's in my custody. If. You're not going to do the same thing. See, and that's where that's where it does get tricky because I feel I feel as though on one hand, it's like being the the the the person who does the right thing or tries to do the right thing gets us f**king nowhere like. But then on the other hand, it's like, is it going to be a strike against you in court if you decide to not do the right thing? But then what? Because I feel like you're between a rock and a hard place like, you know, it's the right thing to allow him to contact his dad if he wants to while he's in your care. But also if it's not being reciprocated. At what point do you get to say, f**k this, I'm not going to comply? OK, Lindsay, you know that I'm always talking about credit, and I'm actually shocked when people still tell me to this day that they don't think that credit is actually a big deal because it really is. It is such a big deal. I know that I've shared before that my parents used to harp on us all the time when we were growing up and about to what they say, like fly the coop. And they were like, It's very important for you to have good credit, but we really did not know what we were supposed to do to get good credit. 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And Mike, who who's the mediator, is that the mediator that would be whoever is prior to going to trial? Like, how does that work? No. So in my parenting plan, obviously, you said my mind is very detailed and it specifically says in the event of a dispute like this, then we have to amicably try to resolve. And I would have to show proof that I've tried to do this, which I have. OK, I have tried to have a sit down. Has it happened? There's various different things that I've tried to do to reach, resolve and just not working. So at that point, then we have a mediation clause in our parenting plan that allows for us to to defer to mediation before using the court. But what does that mean? Defer to mediation? Would that be a mediator through the court? Like the one? No. Like a we would select a private. We would jointly select a private mediator. So like his attorney and my attorney would jointly select a mediation firm and then we would go to this mediation. Got it. And if whatever is not resolved at the mediation, then would be pushed to trial. And then a judge would decide. Got it. So right now I am waiting on a court date for Lux and Creed. But he does not want to mediate. He wants to go right to trial. Do you have anything in your parenting plan that says anything about? No, because the judge ordered our parenting plan. So our entire our entire parenting plan that we're operating off of right now is based on when when Lux was in preschool for day school and the the judge entirely dictated what was in that schedule. So currently, Halloween is not in there. Currently, no vacation clauses in there. Currently, there's nothing about the change of appearance. There is nothing about when Lux starts kindergarten, which is in first grade now. So it's from 20 21 and we're about to enter 2020 four. So there's nothing in there. We're operating off of something that does not apply to our lives anymore. And I proposed like a new, very in-depth after talking to you and stuff like a really, really in-depth and not taking any time away from him whatsoever and just putting very specific details in there about holidays and, you know, international travel kind of like s**t like you described. I don't think there's international travel, just like travel in general. You know, nobody's changing our kids appearance without consulting with the other one and allowing the other one to be present just more specific details. And he actually said, No, I'm not signing this. And even though he has no time being taken away and he requested to go back to trial even though it didn't work in our in our favor the first time. So when I filed for divorce and I hired an attorney who specializes in divorce with minor children, and she told me, she said it is in both yours and Will's best interest to do this yourselves for y'all to do this yourself. Because if you go into the courtroom, I can promise you both of you are going to be. First. Yeah, I mean, to this day, I can't honestly say that either him or myself are. I mean, it doesn't even have like he feels, you know, and I don't think that this is saying anything bad. He feels as though luck should be playing sports that's in a place. And I've said, I think I've said this before. He feels that luxury playing sports in a place that is equal, driving distance for him and for myself, I don't agree. I feel that he should be playing within his school district with his peers and his friends that he's going to be in school with. And I think the judge would say that it would be based. The location would probably be based off of the primary residence, which is also his school district. So he's with me. But I just I didn't even know that there was like an option to request mediation, and I didn't know that was like a job outside of the court. So that's really interesting to me. But unfortunately, he, in writing, waived his right. He does not want to go to mediation, he wants to go right to trial. So I just I'm going to be interested to see how this turns out because I agree with you, I I agree with whoever told it. What did you say? Your attorney said that? Yeah, that's what she said. A hundred percent agree with that. She said that you want to go. This situation already sucks all together as it is right. Like you are losing your marriage and then you're losing time with your child. Probably not something that you ever thought you were signing up for. But here you are. You want to go to court with every thing that you want in there with an agreement that you both agree on this parenting plan before you go in there so that the judge realizes, OK, these two parents are evidently level headed human beings enough to come to an agreement on their own without me having to order it. Because chances are when they do order it, neither person is going to be happy. I agree. I mean, like, you're not going to get everything that you want. He's not going to get everything he wants, and you have to realize, OK, this is in the best interest of the child. I didn't even hear from my child on my birthday. Oh, he didn't like call or anything. First time in 13 years, that will hasn't been the first person to wish me Happy Birthday, which don't really carry on my husband anymore. But it was just weird that it that he didn't and then also didn't have my child goal. And it's not really a child's responsibility to remember something when they're on vacation. I agree. I do. I hear your point about him not wishing you a happy birthday. And he's not being married. He's not married to you anymore. But you know, I have struggled with that over the years with all of my kids dads like, I don't expect them to wish me a happy birthday. But, you know, showing your child a simple gesture like wishing the mother of their child a happy birthday or I'm happy Mother's Day is the bare f**king minimum that you can do to show your child that you know we're not together anymore, but I still care that that's your mom. You know, I still care that that's your dad. You know, and I do. It hurts feelings and also just not showing a good. It's not setting a good example for the children. And that's my opinion. Nobody has to agree with me, but I don't know. Listen, I just think that this always happens when there are other people involved outside of just us. And I didn't really expect that to happen on my birthday. I didn't think that it would apply on that. And then the day I'm thirty four years old, I don't need a happy birthday from you. But to your point, it's just to show your child, if nothing else, if that's all it is for is to say, Look like this is your mother and I still have a level of care for her because she is your mother. And to show them that you should just be nice, you should just be kind. I just had a meeting with Jovian Isaac face to face all four of us in the room, and he looked at Isaac and he was like, You know, do you respect your mom? That's your mom. Do you care about your mom? That is your mom. Like, I love your mom. I love you. You know, not not related to parenting plan, but just letting him know like, I still love your mom. We're not together. I'm with me, but I still love your mom. I still care about her, you know, and obviously not in a romantic way for anyone that's listening. But just like as a person, you know that you still care because that is the other parent. So, I mean, just a simple text like or I mean, even even if so like we can has a phone. If Lincoln was like, Oh, hey, my dad said, Happy birthday, or like my dad said, Happy Mother's Day, you know, because that does show effort, just a small gesture in front of the children, you know? Yeah. And so that was that was very hurtful. And then it brought me to a conversation with another one of my girlfriends of At what point do you? You stop making the kind gestures because they're not meeting you there? And how do you identify the bigger person in the situation? Because typically people say the bigger person is the person who turns a blind eye and continues to be kind. Or is the bigger person protecting yourself and your own peace and meeting that person wherever they're willing to meet you? Which one is it? I struggle with both, I think, and I think it also varies by situation. This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. 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This was the other thing that happened on my birthday, like a couple of days before. So typically every other year we have Jackson on our birthdays and then whoever has him on his birthday in the parenting plan, like whoever's time his birthday falls on has him. But then the other parent can have him the following day. And I forget if it's like three or six hours or something like that to celebrate, totally fine. I get notified that there's going to be like this out-of-town trip and it falls on my birthday and I'm like, OK, you know, I didn't respond back immediately because I've tried to. I was upset initially whenever I got the text and I was like, Wow, that's just why is he doing that? But then I thought, OK, well, there's more people just involved than like our child in our parenting plan. This is an entire family trip, and everything's not going to always work out based off of our parenting plan. When I give a little grace here, but I'm also going to address, hey, like in the past, this is how we have done things. I don't know what changed this year. This is what is reflected in court ordered. I see that this falls on a day that is actually supposed to belong to me. I'm not going to request for your entire family to change their trip because it's my birthday. But just be mindful next time whenever you do this, not to book trips on dates that don't belong to you unless obviously you have a conversation and you're like, OK, this is fine. Yeah, I mean, I definitely agree with that. So book this trip. I give this grace. He then tells me, I said, Hey, like, you guys are going to be coming home on a Wednesday. Typically, my my days are Wednesdays and Thursdays. Is there any way that I can get him for Thursday and take him to a cabin? And he said, Yeah, shouldn't be a problem. Don't hear anything all week. Don't come home whenever I'm told they're going to be coming home. So they didn't come home on Wednesday. Well, they did come home on Wednesday, but I believe the initial return time was like up in the air. If it was going to be like Tuesday or it was going to be Wednesday morning. But then I didn't hear anything until like late Wednesday evening that they had made it back home. My OK fine will and I had already kind of like had it out because I said, You know, you never sent me a dress. Never. No phone call. No nothing. So after he agreed in writing that I could have him and I booked this trip to the mountains and can't get my money back. He tells me I can't pick him up. Why? Because he's upset with you being upset with him. I guess he is upset because I was upset because I was holding him accountable. And I said, Listen, this doesn't have to go past the point of just general acknowledgment of, Hey Lindsey, I am sorry that I did this and I will be better next time. That would have been enough for me. So you can't take Jackson to the cabin. No, that would piss me off. That would piss me off. That would set me the f**k off. What are you hearing? We've been preparing for all week that he's going to be coming home and I'm going to do my obligations and then get him and head out of town and not happening. That would piss me off, especially really nothing I can do. And, you know, but at the point that he agreed and said shouldn't be a problem is the point that that is a verbal agreement that is that was in writing agreement. All right. And in the beginning, when I got divorced, I will say that there is some. There are some parallels here. How do you know I would do that too, like it would be like agreeing to certain things outside of the custody plan and then going back on it when we get mad at each other, but then ultimately still sticking to our word. And that was part of our growing pains. And now I would never like if I tell you you can have them, you can have them, you know, like, we don't fight about that anymore. Like, I completely forgot about Lincoln's hobby had requested to switch to different weeks. I completely forgot about it, but I did agree. Booked a birthday party for him on one of the weeks that I agreed to switch. And then how reconfirmed, I could have gotten pissed off and been like, Well, it's my time. I don't care what I said, like our according to our our custody agreement, this is mine, but I don't. I was just like, if I agreed to it, then I agreed to it. You know what I mean? Like, if I'm saying, I'm like, You know what? If I if I've made an agreement or I've made a concession on something and that's what I committed to, then just know that I am committed from the point that I say that perfectly fine. No issue. Notating it in my calendar. Yup. Now, knowing what I know now, I wish that I wouldn't have given the concession to accommodate everybody that was going on that trip. And their trip would have been cut two days short. And that would have been that right? Because that was your parenting time. And, you know, it's kind of like a slap in the face when you allowed it and then turn around and it's not reciprocated. Like, that's not fair. So then I was getting out of place this morning and was scrolling and I saw his come up on Facebook says, Do your homework on how I act when I feel play. And I sent it to Kristen and she goes, Oh, OK, so before nine a.m., you're back on your s**t. And I'm like, specifically, yes, I specifically I am. I'm back on my f**king bulls**t. Hey, listen, we have some listener topics that I want to get through. Also, there is why that's fine. We'll do that. Tell me what there is, what you are scrolling on Facebook. And I was going to say something funny about like also scrolling on Facebook. And like, I shouldn't say this because it's like, I'm just going to hell, like I'm going straight to hell. I was scrolling and I had a lot of people that that I went to high school with. Have, you know, reached out to me on Facebook or whatever and like, that's fine. Like, I actually love my high school days like I don't like. I have nothing negative to say about 99 percent of the people, but I was scrolling and I happened to see one girl that added me, and she's in a relationship with this guy, right? And I have no room to talk. But I was being I was having a judgmental moment and I just noticed that every single picture with her and her man, she is teasing like she is the happiest person on the entire planet, and she is literally just like barely smiles like, like, she's not happy to be there, and it's just like, it just looks so not good. But she obviously is posting them, so she thinks that they're like, Great. Fantastic. Yeah. And I'm just like, I just want to know, like if this is how he smiles with everyone or like. And like, that's where I was about to go with it. I was about to be like, Maybe because we don't know him. Maybe he just has resting b***h face all the time. Also, you know, Lauren Conrad, she doesn't smile like she smiles. Like, it's like a straight smile. You know, Lauren Conrad is from Laguna Beach, so she smiles. It's like, very like, that's just like she can't like, you see, like how it looks real? I don't know. But I just felt bad for the girl because also I read an article like a lot like probably last year talking about when you take a photo with someone and one person is leaning in and the other person is not, the person leaning in is more invested in the relationship than the person who's not. So also in all of these photos, I noticed that she was also leaning in and he wasn't and also didn't look happy. And I was just like, We have dissect like you literally did an FBI search on these people. Yeah. And I was just like, because she's such a nice girl like, you deserve to be with someone that wants to stand next to you and smile just as hard as you're smiling. OK, so I'm going to show you a photo, and I want you to tell me your thoughts on I'm scared this photo, OK? I look, I don't need. I look so tired with no mascara. OK? Do we both look happy? Yes, like that. It's like you're both happy. You're both like, you're not. Not one of you is leaning in more than the other. Like that one is like a candid, so happy moment. OK, so what was this other photo then? Like, try to give me a good description, I'll just show you, but like I can't like Kristen's character like blurred out or something. Like, why are we on Facebook? Like looking at these people I don't know really don't even know anymore, like, OK, this is another thing. If you have not know me and like, I don't even know, like five years, you don't know me, you know? I mean, she could argue the same. Like, why is Carl judging me? But like, I'm judging you, baby girl, I'm judging him. Like, I know how what a nice person you are and you just you just deserve someone that loves like, I don't know. OK. Blur this out. I can't see it. OK, zoom in a little bit. OK. I think that is his face. No, I know, because every single picture is like this. Let me show you in a second example. And this is why don't scroll really that much on social media. As I just said, I was scrolling, but I just like to look at the memes. OK, yeah, she looks way happier than he does, and that makes me sad. You know what? Any time that I see like and I have been in this type of situation before, before I even say when we're about to say, I feel so sad whenever I look at certain people's photos and I'm like, OK, you can tell that person's totally in this, but that person's totally not, and they're posting these photos. I have posted these photos and I'm like, What? What am I thinking? But you know what? I think also this comes from a place of like, I'm over her overly sensitive to things like this because people have picked my pictures apart, excuse me, my pictures apart and have also picked apart pictures of me with other people. And so I am analyzing every single picture before I post it. And I just like, I won't post a picture if I think my friend is not smiling as hard as me. Like, I won't post it because of because of s**t like this. Yeah, like, I'm sick in the head, like being on social media and just being on TV and things and having like trolls pick my life apart. I have now started doing the same thing. But you're not necessarily trolling people, are you? No, no, no. I'm not trolling. I'm just like and analyzing my pictures. And so like, I had posted a picture of Isaac not smiling in there, like he looks miserable, but like, I knew that he wasn't miserable because he just doesn't like to smile. He has his braces. He doesn't like to show his teeth, whatever, whatever. So like, I knew what it was. And so when people were picking that apart, I was like, I, it's fine. But like also, I am over analyzing every single picture, making sure that they look as they are exactly what they should be so that people don't pick them apart like I like they do to me. Do you know what's so funny about kids with braces today? They have, like, mastered the soft smile. I think it's like, This is like this, right? When we had braces, we let everybody know that we have braces. We they saw every bracket. Yeah, they did. Why? I just think we not know, like have soft smile days. Only certain people can smile without their teeth showing. Because if you do, we know someone. Um, as if we know all the same people, right? In terms of like influencers or OK, let me think of someone like, OK, Nicole Richie right here. She just popped up on my feet. Nicole Richie, I feel like looks OK. She's smiling with no teeth. Yeah. OK, yeah. Fine, perfectly fine. Me smiling with no teeth. No, let me see it. Let me see what it looks like. Yeah, see, I like your soft. Once you have a question for you, what is that, how is your shipping and sending purge situation going? If you are referring to my unorganized yard sales, yeah, it's actually going really great because I am now using Stamps.com. See, we love stamps dot com. We have stamps dot com years at this point, and I recommend it to everybody because you avoid having to go to the Post Office. I absolutely love it so much. And would stamps.com. All you need is a computer and a printer, and they even send you a Freescale so you have everything that you need to get started. And another great feature is if you need a package pick up, you can just schedule it through the Stamps.com dashboard. It's phenomenal. I do that all the time because as we all know, I don't love to leave my house for pretty much any reason. 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Most insured patients paid $0. We really want to emphasize to our friends and listeners how important it is to screen for colon cancer if you're 45 or older, so please talk to your health care provider about your screening options, including screening for colon cancer. With Cologuard, Cologuard is available by prescription only. You can also request a color guard prescription today at Cologuard.com/ podcast. Do not use Cologuard if you have had adenomas, have inflammatory bowel disease and certain hereditary syndromes, or have a personal or family history of colorectal cancer. False positive and negative results may occur. Any positive result should be followed by a colonoscopy, not a replacement for a colonoscopy in high risk patients. This story reflects one individual's experience Not every person will have the same treatment experience, outcome or result. OK, listen, I want to read this what this listener wrote and said, she said. Is it normal for a mom to bring her son food like a maid and to be taught to ask so he does no chores, doesn't clean anything, has everything that you could ever want. Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo Switch, iPhone to iPods. Are we talking about like a. My first question that popped to my head is, are we talking about like a grown man older than 20 years old? Or are we talking about like kids that are our age? I mean, because my kid thinks that I am the maid of this house. Yeah, my I, my kids don't think I'm a maid. They actually know that I'm. I don't. You can f**k around and find out. But I'm no f**king maid and I will not like I'll put their plate. I put their food on their plate. But that's the extent of it. The rest of it. I'm not a maid. You can come pick up this trash. I don't care if I'm walking near it and I'm going to go to the trash can myself. You need to come clean up your own trash, so I don't really care what age they are. No, that's not normal. I think for an only child, it's a little bit of a double standard. I feel like, you know, if you have an only child, you're going to do well. You know what I mean? Like where like, I have a whole, you have the ability to do it right. And that's the thing. Yeah, so it's a little bit different. But to the point that you're talking to me like, I'm a servant, absolutely. No, we're not doing that and I'm not talked to like a servant by any means. That's definitely not the case. But when you're saying, like your kids play their own food growing up, we also played our own food. I'll put my I'll put my kids food on the plate. I'm probably not Isaacs because he's old enough and whatever. But like, no, and Lincoln too, he does his own. But like I put Lux's food on his plate. Apple creates food on his plate. They know I'm no, I'm not a servant made to talk to somebody like him. That's just general disrespect. Well, also why? I don't know like anything. Just talk to them like a normal person. Yeah. So that that's not good. And as far as, like bringing food again, like I will plate a snack, I will play there, I will plate whatever. But bringing food somewhere is in fact not happening because we don't eat anywhere outside of the loop or outside of the city. No, I'm not bringing my kids food in the living room in the in the, you know, their rooms or anything if they're out. If, if, if we're talking about like Isaac gets his first job and he didn't bring a lunch, I might bring him food like in a situation like that. Yeah, but in that situation, I was going to let you know he would it be having everything that he ever wanted, like an Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo Switch, iPhone and two iPads if he was doing these things? Well, I want to know, like I feel like that's also kind of sexist and like kind of like a gender old thing, like why is your mom doing all of these things? And like, what do you think of women? Is that how you're going to treat your, your partner or your significant other? If you're treating your mother that way, then you're probably going to treat a partner that way? Yeah, I don't think that I'm I'm not. I'm with that. Yeah. No. And as far as like the, you know, a child treating a parent like a maid service, no, Jackson will leave. What is the deal with kids taking their socks off and throwing them random places and you can't find them at all? I don't even care if the matching thing isn't a thing for me. We'll figure it the f**k out. But listen to me when I tell you, you know, my bathroom is on the main floor. Mm-Hmm. And my kids love Isaac and Isaac. Isaac will shower in his own bathroom. Lincoln, Lux and Creed. Love to shower my shower. It's it's big and it has three showerheads, so they love it. Why do they lead like they'll get undressed in my bathroom and leave their socks, and I'm just like, I do not understand that phenomenon, so weird. It will be like, Oh, I decided to do like I was too busy playing Fortnite. I just took off my long Nike socks, and they were just like hanging around in all areas of the upstairs. In fact, I am going to be a maid in that situation because I'm not going to let them just continue hanging out there. But also, why do our kids do this? I don't know. I truly don't know. And leave underwear like in their shorts? Oh no. Separate it out. This is where I love that I have someone that does my laundry because she tells my kids like she tells my kids they have to peel like Lincoln is the king of taking his clothes off and leaving things inside out or putting like leaving a wife beater on underneath a shirt. Yeah, leaving his boxers in. And he knows on Sundays, before he goes to his dad's on Mondays, his clothes better be done. Or guess what? They're not getting washed because you better pull them out. You better put them right side out, and you better have all your boxers taken out of your shorts and your and your pants because we're not f**king around. Same for Lux. Let's just start with that s**t. And so when she saw Harvey at a f**king concert a couple of weeks ago, did she tell him, like, you just get your son to separate in his drawer? Yes, they had a conversation and she was yours, and I was bagging the f**k up because Lincoln then came home and was like, and she told my dad that I have to do my clothes, and I was like, Because you do like, I know you're not going to listen to me. I know. I don't know what it is about kids not listening to their like mother, but they'll listen to another adult like they're just worse for their mom kind of thing. Yeah, because they know that we love them, even though they're such a pain in the a*s and they know that we're never going anywhere because they have such a level of confidence in that relationship that they think that they can just do whatever. And nothing we say applies. I hate it. It's like, this is not in fact, a negotiation. Like, I'm confused why we're negotiating anything right now. I'm confused why I'm participating in this conversation. You know what my dad used to say when we were growing up, he was like, Do as I say, not as I do I. My mom used to say that too and actually drove me nuts, and I'm like, I didn't understand what that meant. Like, I like at the time, I would just be like, Huh? But like now, I very much get it. No, I very much got it when it was being said to me and I'm like, OK, so we're it's OK for you to be a hypocrite, but not us. Got it. Got it. OK, listen, I saw this video and it was about a lion and a dog, and it the title of it was a lion doesn't turn around when the dog barks and it says, no matter what you do, people are always going to have some s**t to say about you. You could be an angel, and they will still find true to say your life will never truly be yours. If you're worried about what people are saying and thinking about you, follow your own story and let them be wrong about you. And I think that I struggle with this a lot. I've gotten better. I think over the years I used to be so invested in worrying about people knowing what the actual truth was or like trying to convince them of what the truth was. Yeah. And it's like, why do I care to convince somebody of what I know? The truth is because no one else is living my life. Also, the other part of that, too is like, they're probably they say what they have to say. Just like, I just said this about this couple that I, the girl I know from these people that you don't even know anymore. Also, I said what I said just now, but I'm not going to give it a second thought. So she then you know what I mean? So it's like a passing thought. She doesn't need to come try to convince me that they're happy and you know, he treats her better than she treats hammer. And whatever whatever their story is, is their story. Like, you don't have to convince you of anything because after I said it, I'm not giving them a second thought, you know what I mean? And so at the end of the day, like these people that we worry about what they think. We're not most of the time, and most of us are not consuming their entire thought process or their entire, you know, all of their daily thoughts. So. But I also struggled with that, too. I have struggled. I have gotten to a point where I have to tell people do not send me anything I don't want to know. I don't care if it's about me and it's true. I don't care if it's about me and it's not true. Don't send me s**t because I will worry about how am I going to convince this person what the actual truth is because they have already they've already committed to their own truth in their head? And then that's a long time for me to realize that mixing years and years and years and years and years. And at the same time, they're moving on to the next thing that is going to consume their thoughts for that day. By the next day, anyway, so by that, by the time that I get around to finding something to convince them of what what it? Actually is. They've already moved on. I think it's hard to live your life in a public place and you feel like, OK, I just want all these people to know the truth about X, Y and Z. Mm hmm. But there's going to be a select set of people that no matter what you do, their commitment to hating you, they are more committed to that part than they are committed to caring about the actual facts. Even if you you could present a whole notebook of facts. Mm hmm. And they're still going to be committed to whatever they're committed to, for whatever reason. And I don't understand how hard it is a hard pill to swallow. I think about one person in particular is kind of if I follow the bouncing ball. So have you seen the trend on TikTok? That's like, how often do you think about the Roman Empire? Yes, I have. So there's a new one that's like, how often do you think about your old best friend? OK? And it's kind of like that, right? Like, I constantly think of people who used to be in my life that aren't in my life anymore. And I think of how things used to be. But it's very, very possible that over the last five years or over the last two years, those people have changed like it is possible people can change if they're committed to changing. Right? And it's weird when someone's not in your life and you don't see the growth or the pain or whatever they're going through because you're not there anymore. Yeah, that's that's like the weirdest. It's so weird. The weirdest thing ever. Actually, speaking of change, I saw this other video and it was talking about how people change in four different seasons. And I want to know if you think this is true. People change in four different seasons. They change when they heard enough that they have to. When they see enough that they're inspired to, when they learn enough that they want to and when they receive enough, they're able to I with two of them. I agree with people change when they heard enough and people change when they learn enough. I agree. The other two I'm iffy on only because it hasn't happened to me yet. But the other two I'm heavy on. The pain will change you. The pain will change you for better or for worse, whether that's good, good or bad. The inspiring thing. I think it takes a certain kind of person. And then what was that? What was the other one, this one? Yeah, when when they have, when they receive enough or receive enough? Yeah. Well, in terms of what like, can you give me an example of that? I don't know. Kristen, can you think of an example of like when you receive A.. How that would cause you to change that? I was thinking money in terms of money, like you've received enough money, you're able to change in a way that maybe you give back or you receive enough money. You change in a way that is, you know, you're not you're not a dickhead because you think you have, like, receive enough power. You're a complete a*****e like, yeah, but it's receiving no s**t. I feel like it's like, Hey, isn't that more of like a beat down moment? Like, if you have received enough s**t that you just like, surrendered or whatever? Like, I don't know that that would be like an example of a positive change, I think anyway. Money and power like political from like a political standpoint or something like that, because I definitely know people who get it, you know, they become a doctor or like one of my best f**king friends, became a doctor. Shoot best friend from high school was terrified. I mean, we spent years together. She's a doctor now, and she changed like, cool, you're a doctor. Like, I'm proud of you. Like I'm you really went against every f**king od that was against, like every single thing that was against you and you beat the odds and you're a f**king doctor and you should be f**king proud of yourself. But do I think that you should be a complete dick? No, they don't forget where you came from, kind of thing. 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So please talk to your health care provider about your screening options, including screening for colon cancer. With Cologuard, Cologuard is available by prescription only. You can also request a color guard prescription today at Cologuard.com/ podcast. Do not use Cologuard if you have had adenomas, have inflammatory bowel disease and certain hereditary syndromes, or have a personal or family history of colorectal cancer. False positive and negative results may occur. Any positive results should be followed by a colonoscopy, not a replacement for a colonoscopy in high risk patients. This story reflects one individual's experience Not every person will have the same treatment, experience, outcome or result. I think that's really a big lesson for a lot of people to learn, and I actually was eavesdropping. Go figure. Eavesdropping at the trampoline park yesterday about it was these two moms that were sitting there talking and their kids were all playing. So they were watching them and they were talking s**t about, I don't know who this person was, they were talking s**t about. But somehow it got into a conversation of this girl has two siblings, and both are very, very successful. She's not. She was talking about how she would stay at home mom and how her siblings had all of this like business success and whatnot. And now they both are successful in their own right. But those successes, they both have handled differently. One got very arrogant and c**ky and felt like because they were so successful that the world owed them everything, and the other sibling was very successful in a different way and use that success to be able to help people. And I think that those are the two breakdowns of successful people. Oh yeah, 100 percent. I would agree with that. It's so weird to know that like I was having this conversation with my nanny the other night that you can have something for you. For example, you have a slew of kids that can be raised in the same household, given the same rules, given the same things and will turn out completely differently. It's a heart that's another hard pill to swallow because I see it in my kids every day. I see in my kids every day, and I do think that some things, yes, some of my parenting things have changed over the years, like with each child. So like, Isaac was an only child for four years, right? So certain things that I learned from parenting him changed or evolved with Lincoln. And then same for Lux, same for Creed. But overall, they just could walk away with completely different. I mean, the same thing could happen to them on the same exact day. And and I was a witness to both, and they have two completely different accounts of the story. Isn't that so crazy? It's fascinating. It's truly f**king fascinating because I wonder like because I have I have a really hard time now and I should dive into it out there in therapy, but I just haven't had the chance. Like, I struggle with fixating on my prior life past relationships. So like people from my childhood that I still care deeply about as if we're still in that time frame. Mm hmm. I don't even know if they remember me. You know, like, I don't when I just describe this doctor, I don't know if she considered like, we spent countless nights together. I was like best friends, like we did so much s**t together. We ripped and ran the streets together. But does she think of me the same way I think of her? I don't think so crazy to even think about. I think about, like childhood best friends all the time. Well, OK. So I'm not the only one because I'm I fixate on it, though. Like, I'm like, I still care about them as if we are in that time period. Yeah, like sometimes you live. It's almost like you're living in the past, but you're not like the people that get a bad rap for like, Oh, you still live like you're in high school like that. I feel like I'm one of those people, but not in a bad way. It's like, I still think, like, you cherish those memories. Yes. And like, I value those friendships that don't exist anymore. Like, I don't know how to describe what I'm trying to describe, but it's so hard. It's more related. The more complicated life has become. I find myself wanting to go back to easier times, I said. Is when will and I got to the place that I filed for divorce the first time, I said, I wonder if this would have ever happened if our life would have played out differently in regards to like, I would have never done the show and I would have just been a stay at home mom. And you would have been, you know, going out corporate America, doing whatever you're doing like, would that have changed and would we have stayed together if our life didn't change in this way? Does that make sense? Yeah. Now it's so but like, why do we fixate on stuff like that? Is it because we are? I don't know if it's a control thing. I don't know if it's a coping thing. I don't want to talk like this. Like, I'm thinking about people from like f**king elementary school, but I don't even know if they know I still exist. Like, I don't like it here. OK, well, I think that to the point of what you're describing of how you think of it, I don't. It'll be like a fleeting thought of I wish I could have. I could go back to simpler times and I wish that I had more time in that time. No one of my childhood girlfriends just told me that our other childhood best friends told their family home and I I've been sick over it ever since, and it's been weeks. One. There's somebody else's family home. No, but she grew up there like, I know what, like, I'm sick and that because no, like I've been sick over it for weeks. Like, I haven't said anything to anyone because what I feel is like, I know it's crazy. Like, I know it's not rational in any way, shape or form. I'm sick over it. I keep going back to the Zillow listing. I keep and it's I'm sick over it, and it's just because I spent so much time there as a child like, I'm sick over it, kill it. I think I need severe even more. And what is that? Is that where they shock your brain? Yes. Like, I need that. So I need to forget these childhood homes because I like to. I don't know what is wrong. Like, I can tell you every childhood best friend that I ever had and like exactly the layout of their homes like I the the I don't photographic memory, the homes that I was in. Wow. Really? Yeah. So I don't want to say like, maybe you should get therapy because I don't even know that that's like an appropriate. I just don't know how to describe it for someone to understand. And maybe it's just because you found so much happiness and that stuff that places like you. Yeah, that you can't like. Remove yourself like a piece of your heart is in those places, you know, like, I'm sick to my stomach about that house that was sold until she bought it. How do you know the address? Yes. Tell, I'm concerned, I'm also concerned because I don't know how to express it, just like I haven't talked to Christine about it. Eliza, you like nobody because I don't know how to describe it to anyone in a way that is what's going on in my head. It's like, it's like, I'm stuck. It's not just high school people, it's also people from like literal elementary school. OK, but this makes me think of a situation that happened after. So I think I've talked about it before that. I thought if we just like kept building bigger houses that that would fix our marriage know so first house we moved into. I was like, We should sell this place and then just start new memories in another place. And like all this will be locked up and left. And like I do, a very good job of like locking up and leaving memories of the place and never revisiting that thought. I was told our first house they'll kill will be called in the driveway. Like, as we were pulling out to go to the closing, we had cleaned out the refrigerator. I look over. I'm sitting in the passenger seat, getting in the car with just grocery bags of s**t from the refrigerator and he's sobbing with. I mean, just crocodile tears rolling down his face. I'm like, You need to get it. Like, what is wrong? This is a Halix. I've locked this s**t up. I do not care. I have the thing, the items from the home. I do not care about anything else. I'm going to get my money and putting it on my next house and quite literally do not care about anything of this. How interesting I need their free will and I are willing I have that in common, like so crazy. Christine, do you know what I am thankful for over the weekend? What I'm thankful for you introducing me to rocket money so long ago because for whatever reason, I keep signing up for free trials and forgetting to cancel them. And with rocket money, I don't worry about it. You know what? I feel better when I see the emails come in that you signed up for a trial and it gives me the trial and date, and I just know you're going to forget. But I also know that you have rocket money and they're going to be able to do it for you. So, so for those of you who have never heard of rocket money, you guys need to get on this train. It is a personal finance app that finds and cancels unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending and helps you lower your bills all in one place. 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We really want to emphasize to our friends and listeners how important it is to screen for colon cancer if you're 45 or older. So please talk to your health care provider about your screening options, including screening for colon cancer. With Cologuard, Cologuard is available by prescription only. You can also request a color guard prescription today at Cologuard.com/ podcast. Do not use Cologuard if you have had adenomas, have inflammatory bowel disease and certain hereditary syndromes, or have a personal or family history of colorectal cancer. False positive and negative results may occur. Any positive result should be followed by a colonoscopy, not a replacement for a colonoscopy in high risk patients. This story reflects one individual's experience Not every person will have the same treatment, experience, outcome or result. I have one more thing that I need to ask you about because I hold this video and I don't know if you're going to agree with it or if you're not OK. I kind of agree with it. It was a video about women cheating more than men, and it said women cheat more than men because they are in denial about the infidelity when they cheat. They don't even label it. Is that when a woman does cheat, they label it as my husband is no longer satisfying to me. They won't even say I'm cheating. They find ways to redirect, redirect and shift the terminology so that they are void of guilt. And they were talking about how it was simple science, infidelity as a result of men not being masculine and women not being feminine. I think up until the point that I reached my peak in therapy, I changed the terminology and was not willing to take accountability for my cheating behaviors in the past. I didn't cheat on everybody. Contrary to popular belief, but those that I did cheat on, I very much changed my thought process around it to justify the cheating and not admit that it was cheating. So give me an example on how you did that. I would skew a timeline and set just to say, Oh, well, we were broken up specifically for Jordan. We were broken up during that time or I have a child with him, so it doesn't count as cheating or, you know, I've had I'll never like. But the weird thing was that I also didn't believe that either. It was more so like I didn't want Joe, but I didn't want anyone else to have him. So I'm going to keep him in my back pocket. But I'm also going to tell Jordan that he doesn't understand this bond, so it justifies the cheating. And also in my head, I can convince myself that it wasn't cheating. So not only am I gaslighting the f**k out of him, but I'm essentially gaslighting the f**k out of myself to make myself feel better about the action. OK, answer this question Did you cheat because you just wanted to cheat and you didn't care what the consequences were? Or did you cheat because you felt like your needs weren't being met in that relationship, but you just weren't willing to let go? But you knew it wasn't going to work out? Neither. I cheated because although I wanted to be with Jordan. I also didn't want Joe to be with anyone else. OK. So if so, essentially I was. I cheated so that you could keep Joe on, had my cake and eat it till. Have Jordan be selfish? Yeah, 100 percent. 100 percent. I do think too, to the point of this video that you saw now that I'm thirty one. Obviously, things are very different when I was 18, but when women cheat, I feel as though when a woman gets over a man, there's no going back. Right? Like, I feel like certain women have a hold on men and certain women. A man will always like there's always a woman or two women that a man will always, always, always, always go back to agreed. I think for a woman to cheat on a man, you're probably not happy in the relationship, but you also can't get out. I think if a woman is cheating on a man, it's because she's not 100 percent committed to being over that situation. OK, but she's also not fulfilled in that situation. Correct? I feel the same way. So where she wants the fulfillment from that she's getting the fulfillment somewhere else but wanting to stay in that in hopes that persons eventually going to be able to fill her, but she can cheat while she's not getting that. But I also think at the point that a woman cheats, you know, and at the so too, yes. Yes. But then say, boyfriend, husband, whatever, then starts giving the wife the woman what she wants, she's not going to want it anymore because now she's already gotten a taste of what else is out there, and now the chase is gone. Now she's gotten what she wanted and she's going to move on regardless like I have yet. And I'm not saying they don't exist. I just haven't personally met someone, a woman that has cheated and then state. Oh, I agree. I don't know of any situation like that either. But when you said that there is always like one or two women that a man will always go back to. I believe that if a woman goes back to someone she's ever been in a relationship with, it's because she's still not over that situation. Yeah, I don't think it has anything to do with, Oh, like he throws it down. Good. No, it's just that she's not over that situation. Yeah. Because you know what? My dad told us growing up dicks, Adomah doesn't honey and diamond doesn't like, do not be on that recycle mode. When you're done, be done. But if you're not done, don't be done. But it's so much easier said than done right 100 percent hundred percent like you want to be revisiting that same until your oscillation, until you fully are done. Like I have revisited several of I mean, specifically my kids dad's like all of them, we were going back and forth and back, and for all of them, to some degree, I mean some less than others, some more than others. Until I was, I was done. I will never like, literally never forget. And this is not even in like a sexual way whatsoever, even though it was a sexual act. I will never forget the last time that Will and I were together that I knew in that moment that I slept with him, that we were done like I felt it in my bones. Right? Oh yeah. And I literally done. Never thought about it again, ever. I don't think for any of my kids dads that I ever thought that was going to be the last time. Wait, you were just having a good time. And then it was your last time. Yeah. Like I remember, like I was the one that was that was I ended it. But also that's literally the cops coming to get us because we're talking about stuff we shouldn't. Do you remember all the last times I remember two out of three, two out of three of the last time? Well, since we're just like in this foul state. Foul play. Foul play. OK, here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Hi, ladies, I love you guys so much. I listen to you every episode. You guys keep me entertained in the mornings on the way to work and my foul play is my now husband and I were dating at the time. I was seventeen and he was twenty one. We would frequently go to the park next to his house late at night to make out and sometimes, you know, get down and dirty. He still lived with his parents because he was in college and tried to save money anyway at this particular time. I was giving him a paycheck and I was really getting into it, and obviously he was too. All of a sudden, I see a flashlight shining into the car and a tap on the window. It was a cop, not the cop. Me being 17 and a good girl, according to my parents, I was freaking out. My husband pulls up his pants as quickly as possible and rolls down the window. The cop asks for my I.D. and his ID, and at that point he notices that he's 21 and I'm 17. The cop then asked me to step outside to the back of my car and my 17 year old brain. All I could think about is this cop escorting me home and telling my parents what was going on. He proceeds to ask, Is this man forcing you to do anything you don't want to do? And me and my shaky, scared little boy says, No, sir, I wanted to. He then says, Well, I was watching and your head was in his lap for a while and bobbing up and down. So I just wanted to make sure there was consent. I was just thinking, what? How long had this dude been sitting there watching? Well, that's really gross. At that point, he just tells us to leave and the park closes that dark and not to come back to that park anymore. My husband and I have been married for 17 years now. We got married when I was 18. We have two kids, 15 and 13, and we still laugh about it to this day. Moral of the story, do not come something. Do not go to a public place to give blowjobs. Love you, ladies, and hope this makes you laugh. Well, I'm so glad that that turned out the way it did, because it could have turned out way worse way that could have turned out way differently. Also, very much is kind of a creep. While he was a creep, but at first when you were reading, I was like, OK, I really respect this cop because he's like looking out for her and making sure that everything's like good Gucci. And then when he started talking about her head bobbing up and down and the fact that he was watching weird, like I got very weird, creepy vibes. And also it made me think about why do men get thrills from having sex at weird places? I don't think that has. Thrills from that, I think it was just like trying to stay away from the parents. No, I know, but I'm saying in a general sense, anybody who's listening to this, why don't they always want to get BJs like in a truck or like, why do they always want to go and have sex it like weirdo places? One time? OK, so this was like right before Chrisley Knows Best started, and I said that I was pregnant when we were filming the pilot, so my dad had a will and I go and look at this house and he was like, You guys need to move here and we'll be close so that we can be close to the baby and close to Lindsay and whatever. So we got to this house, and for whatever reason, we'll get 20 and he drives behind like this building. And we're just like in the middle of nowhere, like behind this building. And he puts out a truck bed and I'm pregnant, so I don't know anybody else who's listening this. When you're pregnant, I feel like you're the horniest person alive sometimes, or it's the opposite. It's one or the other. There's no in-between. Well, evidently I was. I was the morning person, so I don't know what possessed me, but I was like, I guess I'm pulling my face out here on this truck that so will put his keys on the truck bed. Start having sex and this place was it. No, it wasn't even dark outside, OK, goes to put up his truck bed, and when he does, he jams the key in between the truck bed and the ridge, and it breaks the key. Yeah. And what I don't know, he like somehow like bent the key back and it worked to start the car, but like the whole key bent and I was like, Oh, this is like really not how I was planning on this to turn out like my dad's in us to go and look at this house, and now I'm going to have to call him and tell him, Oh, by the way, we left that house and then stopped for a quickie behind this sketchy building, and we'll broke his f**king key and you have to come and pick us up. You be like, What the hell are y'all doing back here? Oh, so not why? Not only would my dad have to think about will having sex with me enough to get me pregnant, but also the fact that he sent us on an errand and then this happened. Just weird. I need to know why all men want this or like, road ahead. That is irritating to me because like, it's not easy to do, especially in like my big old suburban or like electronics, like a diesel truck, like trying to like, get down there. There's like little compartment things. Yeah, there's no easy way to do that. Not happening. Not happening next. Hey, girls, just listen to your foul play about the girl getting into her ex-boyfriend, spat in the roommate to help her get dressed. We'll have a story about my husband involving something involving someone else's bed. That's not good. Eight years ago, when I was still living in my mom's, my boyfriend, now husband, decided to do a no carb diet. Well, that lasted for only a week. Sounds like my diet. Honestly, the day we decided that we were finished with the diet, we decided to go out because we literally detox our bodies. We got super hammered, super quick, so we went home and went to bed. My mom calls my cell phone at three a.m. and tells me to come get my boyfriend. I'm confused and gave her a little attitude because she woke me up and I have no idea what she was talking about. Ask her where he was, and she told me, Just come into her bedroom. Oh my god, oh s**t. On my way, I walk from my bathroom and noticed pee everywhere on the floor. Put two and two together. My boyfriend must have gone to the bathroom. Took the wrong turn out of the bathroom and up. Ho, ho. Oh no. Not only did he go into her bedroom, he was in her bed trying to spin her aggressively, trying to spoon her, thinking it was me not realizing it was my mother. I yelled his name and he immediately looked like a deer in the headlights. Luckily, we all thought it's hilarious. We've been married for four years and have a daughter. I've been a listener of your podcast since the very first day I dropped a lot of your pictures. Oh my god, I'm so glad that the mom thought it was funny because that could have ended really bad. OK, but you know how like, sometimes when you're kind of like in a knot like a total drunk state, but you're just like a little tipsy and then someone goes the bathroom comes back to the bed and like one person starts getting a little handsy. No, I don't. I don't know anything about that, but continue. I think this story would have gone way differently if it would have, if he would have been trying to, like, get in pants other than just like spooning. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because then that would have made it, like, really, really weird. This is kind of funny. Also, the drunk peers like I will never. We talked about this before. I will. I don't get it. What you've done this? No, I don't drink. I don't drink ever enough to do that. Do you know a drunk beer? No. OK, well, I'm trying to think of one. No. I mean, Elijah he. Loves Israel, Trulieve's and white claws and twisted tees corona, but like he does hint he doesn't. I think I've seen him drunk twice and he just pees in the toilet. OK, well, there have been times that I have gone to the bathroom where somebody has put the toilet seat down like the lid. Yeah, and it it will be in my bathroom like my own bathroom. First of all, why is anybody pissing in there in the first place outside of me and I will go in there in the middle of the night, sit on top of the toilet, start peeing and it's like you start feeling it on your ankles and you're like, What the f**k just happened? What the f**k is happening? I actually get really annoyed about because my bathroom seems to be a free for all I actually don't like when people put my personal toilet seat down for that reason, because I get up and pee in the middle of the night all the time always have, always will. And I can't tell you how many times someone has put, as I don't know who puts the toilet seat down and that or the lid. And then I on myself and I'm like, Are you f**king? And I'm not even drunk for that, OK? I think you're one of two people, though you are either the type of person that pees before bed and then you lay in the bed. And even if you have to pee, you will not get up. You will just think about every you will think about, every way about how you're not getting up until the morning. That is me thinking immediately. Whenever I wake up, I have to dart out of the bed because I have thought about needing to pee all night long. But I'm just too sorry to get up out of bed, do it to sorry, or you are the type of person that gets up and down all night long. That's me in my relationship. We are both of those people. Like, one is one way and fame. That's us. Well, I don't get up for that. What? Why do you feel like you have to pee like that bad that you're going to wake yourself up from your slumber? No, you don't. When I went to the sleep study, she said that your brain actually won't wake you up to pee. You wake up for other reasons. And then because you're up or you toss and turn for whatever reason, then you go to the bathroom, but your your brain, your bladder will not signal to your brain that you have to get up and go pee in the middle of the night. OK, mine, she told me the other night. She probably got up four times to go to the bathroom, and I watched her because I wanted to know if she was in an awakened state or like what was going on. I'm pretty sure that she just goes and doesn't even realize that like she's going to the bathroom, but like she's doing that and then gets right back in the bed and will be snoring in 10 seconds. Mm-Hmm. And I don't understand if I'm getting up, I'm awake. I don't know. I think it's just maybe like, we don't sleep well. And so then we get up to go to the bathroom. Like, for me, it's now it's a routine where if I get up for it to roll over, I'm uncomfortable. Whatever my phone goes off, I forgot to put it on. Do not disturb something. It's almost my way of putting myself back to bed. It's like my routine to get up, go to the bathroom and then come back to bed, get comfortable. It's like I'm resetting my bedtime routine. But I've always my whole life. I've gotten up in the middle of the night. I just am not a good sleeper. Do you know the other night that I went to bed at literally went to bed at eight 30 and did not wake up until seven o'clock? And you have the bathroom and I did not get up to go to bathroom one time. Eight thirty two to seven a.m. How many times would you pee in that time? Six. No, I got to go. You guys have not followed us on our Coffee Convos podcast on Instagram. Make sure you follow us there. If you have not subscribed to the show, you can do that from any podcast app wherever you get your podcasts and always first PodcastOne. We hope you guys have a great week in Pakistan. See ya ! This message is brought to you by Cologuard, Cologuard is a one of a kind way to screen for colon cancer. 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Do not use color guard if you have had adenomas, have inflammatory bowel disease and certain hereditary syndromes, or have a personal or family history of colorectal cancer. False positive and negative results may occur. Any positive result should be followed by a colonoscopy, not a replacement for a colonoscopy in high risk patients. This story reflects one individual's experience Not every person will have the same treatment, experience, outcome or result. This message is brought to you by color guard. Cologuard Guard is a one of a kind way to screen for colon cancer if you are 45 or older and at average risk for colon cancer. It's uniquely effective because it is the only FDA approved non-invasive screening test that looks for both altered DNA and blood in your stool. You know, I've actually had personal experience using colon guard. I loved that the test kit gets delivered right to your door so that you can collect your sample on your own. And in addition to the convenience and ease of use, it also is affordable. Most insured patients paid $0. We really want to emphasize to our friends and listeners how important it is to screen for colon cancer if you're 45 or older. So please talk to your health care provider about your screening options, including screening for colon cancer. With Cologuard, Cologuard is available by prescription only. You can also request a color guard prescription today at Cologuard.com/ podcast. Do not use color guard if you have had adenomas, have inflammatory bowel disease and certain hereditary syndromes, or have a personal or family history of colorectal cancer. False positive and negative results may occur. Any positive result should be followed by a colonoscopy, not a replacement for a colonoscopy in high risk patients. This story reflects one individual's experience Not every person will have the same treatment, experience, outcome or result.
Melissa invites celebrity best-friend, CEO, and author, Loren Ridinger, onto the show to share her heartbreaking story of losing the love of her life, the very powerful way that she views grief, and her incredible advice to anyone who has dealt with the loss of a partner.
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Melissa invites the always entertaining Joe Gorga back onto the show to talk about Joe?s strange obsession with the local news weather segments, the many phases of Melissa Gorga (according to Joe), and their new obsession with The White Lotus.
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This week Melissa catches up with the always lovely and always faithful, Dolores Catania, to talk about how she used her own private detective skills on the latest season of The Traitors, the one competitor that the jury is still out on (even after the show), and why a life on RHONJ perfectly prepares you for a reality competition show.
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With Traitors back in full swing, let's revisit a chat with who ALMOST won it all last season.
Melissa invites the fan favorite from the latest season of The Traitors, Mercedes Javid (MJ), to talk all about the the pros and cons of being married to old-school men, what happens when two famous partners react to fame very differently, and the behind the scenes secrets of the hit reality show, The Traitors.
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Melissa invites the always hilarious, Joe Gorga, back onto the show to talk about the parental dilemmas with Apple Pay, Joe?s NSFW idea for his own cookie business, and who, out of the two of them, would make the better employee.
Melissa and Joe also give us their take on the latest season of Traitors, the team they?d want to play for on the show, and why Joe would probably blow up his game on Day 1.
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Melissa welcomes mom, hustler, and pod host, Amanda Hirsch who also happens to run one of the best Instagram accounts out there to talk about the future of RHONJ, whether that includes MG, what Andy Cohen has said about it all, and where Melissa stands with her castmates!
They also chat about the RHONY reboot, who owned the most recent season, who got a little off course, and how these ladies stack up against OGs like Sonja Morgan and Countess Luann de Lesseps.
Plus, Sprinkles by MG and how and when you can get some!
And which Bravolebrity is killing it on Cameo!
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Melissa is joined by the always hilarious, LadyGang, to talk about the "cheugy" (or "chuggy") feud between Millenials and GenZ, how Keltie is owning the term, "Sexy Mature," and who, out of the crew, would make a great addition to The Real Housewives.
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He's worked on some of the most famous faces in Jersey, and Melissa has him on the podcast this week!
Melissa welcomes expert plastic surgeon, Dr. Mark Karolak, onto the show to chat about the recent plastic surgery trends amongst the housewives, his subtle approach to enhancing the natural beauty of his clients, and the one procedure he'd highly recommend to anyone that feels like they are looking at little tired.
Dr. Karolak also dispels some rumors and shines a light on the reality of fillers, C02 laser treatments, and minor face-lifts.
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She's back and ready to give us all a crash course in health, diet, and the terrible things many of us are putting into our body.
Melissa welcomes world-famous celebrity trainer and nutritionist, Jillian Michaels, back onto the show to talk about the insane chemicals in our food, why our addiction to junk food might not be entirely our fault, and which trendy vitamin supplements actually work and which ones do absolutely nothing.
And back by popular demand, Jillian gives Melissa tips on which things she should continue with her health routine, and which ones are a complete waste of time.
Jillian also gives the listeners a special discount code for her award-winning fitness app.
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She tells it like it is, and she's back on the show this week.
Melissa sits down with the one and only, Margaret Josephs, to chat about Bravo's recent trend of reboots, how the times have changed when it comes to empathy for certain housewives, and why being on RHONJ sometimes feels like being the red-headed stepchild of the Bravo Universe
Margaret also clears the air on the recent rumors about her and Dorinda, and why some off-camera disagreements are blown way out of proportion.
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