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I've done over 1500 podcasts over it's been, I guess, gosh, 10 years now. And what's great about podcasting is you get to just call up all these people you're either amazed by or maybe they're they did something currently that you really wanna ask more questions about or they're your heroes from childhood or some icon of your personal history that and you just get this chance to call them and say, hey. Can I talk to you and ask you any question I want? Like, for instance, you know, a few weeks ago, David Rubinstein, the head of the Carlyle Group, came on, and I was able to just ask every question I had about the economy, and he was able to answer. As you know, I've been so fascinated by chess. And even back in the eighties, Garry Kasparov was my hero, and I was able he's been on my podcast 4 or 5 times. Like, what a gift it is to me, and I hope it is a gift to the listeners to listen in while I ask these questions to my heroes. So a few years ago, I had on right before COVID, actually, it was in my apartment. We did this podcast, and there was a kind of a big crowd. And and and we set up chairs, and people were really listening. Suzanne Somers, first off, she was really famous as being an an actress from a famous actress from my childhood on a show called 3's Company. Since then, she's been so involved in the health industry and the exercise industry. Tragically, you know, she passed away. As I'm recording, she passed away yesterday, and she had a long battle, 23 years with breast cancer. She was 76 years old. And I remember thinking during the podcast, boy, this is a woman who lives life to the fullest. She's had her ups. She's had her downs. But she every day, it felt like she squeezed the most out of life. Like, you know, she's in her seventies. Her husband's in the eighties. She pointed him out, and she was talking about how, like, they have sex twice a day or whatever. Like, I hope I am so fortunate at the age of 76 to be doing that and with all the, again, all the ups and downs, particularly as as you age. And, anyway, it was a meaningful podcast to me. Meaningful in the sense that I still, 4 years later or 3 years later, remember it and apply the things I learned from that podcast in my life. I don't always do that, but in this case, with Suzanne Somers, I did. And, again, she was such an icon from my childhood. It was such a pleasure to talk to her. She and my wife got along. She stuck around afterwards, and we were all just joking around. And it was a funny podcast as well. A lot of a lot of reaction from the audience. But it's evergreen, meaning it's just as good now as the day we recorded it. And if you didn't listen to it before or even if you listen to it before, it's worth listening to again. Here it is. And, again, rest in peace, Suzanne Somers. This isn't your average business podcast, and he's not your average host. This is the James Altucher Show. Maybe they influence each other. He's very, very I really like your hair. Oh, thank you. I really like yours. Thank you. I've I've liked yours since 3 is company. That's funny. So I've got Suzanne Somers here from I knew you originally, of course, from 3's Company. And then since then, you've done many more much more important things, including 20 I didn't know you're the author of 27 books. Yeah. So you've written more books than me. So you're the 1st person I've met who's done that. And also I'm older than you are. Alright. I'm gonna catch up. But maybe I'll catch up or maybe not because your latest book, which we're gonna talk about now, is called A New Way to Age, the most cutting edge advances in antiaging. And people will probably say, well, why did Suzanne Somers wrote that? And I'll answer, and then you could answer, which is you've written a ton of books on health and medicine and holistic medicine and so on. And in this book, you interview I don't know how many doctors, but, like was it 20 doctors? A dozen doctors? You've interviewed all the doctors. Actually, I didn't count, but a lot. I didn't count either. I should've counted. Yeah. And but they were all fascinating. And you're really, you know and by the way, also, I have, doctor Dean Mitchell here. People listeners might remember him from the doctor Gundry, Plant Paradox podcast. But, Dean, welcome back. Thanks. I wanna be your wingman today because, you know, it's a lot of fun being here with you and, of course Mhmm. Suzanne Somers, who I have a lot of admiration for. Well, thank you so much. He was he was telling me, Suzanne, how much he liked your book, toxic and and knockout. And and so many of your your books have been so interesting, and you're a real your your your interview style with the doctors you interview, you're really trying to you're really getting the maximum amount of knowledge from them. And it was so fascinating. You talk about everything from, I don't know, oxytocin to telomeres to CBD to vitamin b. And, you know, and then 1 I just wanna quote one thing. You're dog eared and everything. Yeah. I know. This is I learned a lot, and I had a lot of questions. But the main thing is, I think the subtitle of your book should have been and it's from page I I believe it's 192. I don't have it written down. But I this quote, I think your subtitle should have been infrared sauna makes for better erections. I think that should have been the subtitle of the book. And we'll we'll maybe get to that. Maybe not. We'll see. That's another book. Right. That's the next book. But, but but there's a lot of stuff. It's you're you're all over here from stem cell therapy to testosterone to supplements. So I almost don't know where to begin because there's so much knowledge. What do what do you do? What do you think is out of all the people you spoke to, what do you think is the most important ingredients for antiaging? And, by the way, doctor Mitchell's here to help me just in case I'm an idiot, which I am. I don't know anything. So I'll ask the questions I'm curious about, and then he'll fill in some facts for me and and for you and for the listeners. Try. So roll back. What was the question? What do you do for antiaging? You're you're obsessed with it. You you you do it. You you ask these doctors because you're interested, and and aging is it seems like you you think and and and I would agree that aging almost should be thought of as a a disease rather than a natural thing that happens in our lives, and it's a it's a disease that should be studied or a condition that should be studied and potentially cured. And so that's the focus of your interviews, it seems. In a way, it is curable. When you look at the present paradigm of aging, it's something none of us want. It's decrepit. It's frail. It's one of the big three, Alzheimer's, heart disease, cancer, and then the eventual endpoint at the nursing home. And, nobody ever thinks that will happen to them. Nobody in a nursing home ever thought they'd end up in a nursing home. What are any of us doing differently than those than those people? So you have to start thinking about it now and the earlier the better to make better choices because the people in nursing homes today just thought they were doing everything right. They believe that processed food was okay. They believed the allopathic approach to health was okay. And I know that most people are most comfortable with allopathic medicine. Here's the What do you mean by allopathic? Allopathic is, doctor, here's my problem, and the doctor says, here's the drug for the problem. And that's what feels safe, and that's what we all grew up on. And then we went to the doctor, and they wrote a prescription. And you almost didn't feel like you got your money's worth if you didn't walk out with a prescription. And so that I get, and I'm not trying to tell people not to go that way. But if you're like me and you'd rather go natural first and then only resort to western medicine as a if absolutely necessary, then this is the book for you. So the way I approach my health and the greatest thing that ever happened to me was getting cancer 20 years ago. It's an unusual thing to say that that's the greatest thing. It is an unusual thing, but and it wasn't at the moment when you hear those three words. But I remember being presented with standard of care, And I remember saying, I can't. The idea of of of filling my body with chemical poisoning to cure me. I don't get it. And and I said, will it cure me? Well, it won't cure you, but it might give you a better chance. Is that I'd hate to sell that product. You know, here's 18 weeks of chemo. You'll lose your hair, and you have better chance of of living, but not it's not a cure. Yeah. Like, well, I'm always curious. And I I actually ask this question of my friends. If you have cancer, would you do the chemo? Because it's not so clear what the chances of success are. In many cases, I've seen people die from the chemo. And A lot of a lot of cases. Yeah. And and it doesn't look very pleasant way to die either. It's very torturous. Yeah. And so I don't know. I mean, well, I know what you did, so tell me your story. I've turned it down several times. I've had a lot of cancer, and I beat it every time, doing it my way through diet, through detoxification, through pancreatic enzymes. I had cancer 3 times in my twenties. People don't know this, actually. I don't know that, actually. What what what did people what did cancer do? Severe hyperplasia in my uterus 3 times in my twenties. In my thirties, I had malignant melanoma on my back. In my forties, I had cancer in my uterus and had it removed. In my fifties, I had breast cancer, a tumor. In my sixties, I had, ductal carcinoma in situ. So cancer just likes you. Yeah. Like, it's all over. But I'm not afraid of it. Let me interrupt one thing. Like, she's a warrior. I mean, when you when you battle all these things this is what I tell my patients. Like, sometimes when they're, like, oh my god. This happened to me. I had this cancer. This is too. And they battled through it, and they've actually overcome it. I said to me, you're a warrior. You deserve that medal. So don't don't feel like you're, you know, defective in some ways. Well, I actually am am am this is selfish to say, but I'm nervous that I haven't had anything because I think the one time I get something, I'm just gonna completely collapse, and that's it. That's gonna be my final gray hair. Yeah. Well, at least I have that. So in the grave, I'll have an open casket. That's very sneaky. He never gets you what you think is gonna get you. It's always something else. I think in the You get hair cancer. I mean, this this book, too limited to cancer, is would be doing it a disservice, but we're in that arena. But I think the oncologists are are doing their best. They're giving us our their best, but that's what they're taught. And I am in a place in my life of, can we be more creative? Maybe it's not that complex. Maybe maybe cancer, wants to be fed right and detoxed. A a guy that I interviewed for 3 of my books, you may know him, doctor Nicholas Gonzalez Yes. Yes. Who I believe was murdered, 4 years ago. He was just about to to publish a, 126, case studies of stage 4 cancer, including pancreatic of his patients who had been alive on his protocol 10 years or longer. I used his protocol for my, for ductal carcinoma in situ. What is it? It's coffee enemas and pancreatic enzymes. Oh, we're just talking. Yeah. And that's This is from Nick Gonzales. I knew I knew his work. Yeah. I knew and I have patients that we shared, you you know, that swore by what he did. It was difficult, you know, but people who had I think chemotherapy is harder. Yes. Yeah. By the way, some What's a coffee enemas? Okay. So let's start with why pancreatic enzymes. The pancreatic enzymes that he, gives you are porcine. Pigs, enzymes are closest to human. So when you take enzymes with meals, it just digest your food, but you take it away from meals an hour before and after. Like in a supplement form? Yeah. In supplements and a a good deal. If you have cancer, probably, 14 to 16 every 5 hours. And so it's a commitment. You gotta believe it. Can you buy those in the store or what's Yeah. You you yeah. You buy them from his pharmacy where he never took a piece. I said he said I don't wanna make money off my patients. I said, it's okay. Anyway, enzymes eat debris. Cancer is debris. Chemicals are debris. Toxins are debris. So the enzymes go in there and eat up the debris. Hopefully, it's eating your cancer. And then for lack of a more delicate way to describe it, those little they're little animals, the, the enzymes. They they poop out the debris, okay, into your bloodstream, and then the coffee enema, detoxes the liver and flushes it out. So you're eating it up and flushing it out, and eating it up and flushing it out. How how does it know how how does it recognize that the cancer cells are debris? Because this isn't part of the ideas that cancer cells fool a lot of other medicines, you know, so that the medicines can't recognize the the bad from the good. Perhaps they're smarter. But, if there's no food that they're digesting, they just take what's available. You know? They just they just want what what whatever whatever is available. And so, when I went to doctor Gonzales' funeral, and I talked to him 3 hours before he died Mhmm. And he was fine. He's a god loving man, country loving man, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, eats organic food. He had recently had a checkup. He's perfect healthy. You know, he took perfect health. How did he die? He took care. His heart exploded. Yeah. They said he had a heart attack, I thought. Right? So when I was at the funeral, the wife said to me, the widow, that he had gotten a phone call 2 months earlier from an anonymous caller saying you're going to be murdered. You won't know where it's coming from, and it's gonna look like a heart attack. And then she also said to me that Nick should talk to Nick, to Mike Baker. So the widow said to me, do you know Mike Baker? And I said, I don't know him, but I know who he is. He used to be with the CIA, and now he runs a, a security system called, Diligence Inc. So I called Mike Baker and I said, do you know doctor Nick Gonzales? No. Do you know you're mentioned in this anonymous call? No. I said, so you're with the CIA. Does the CIA have a way to induce a heart attack in somebody? And he paused. He goes, yeah. We have a heart attack gun. If I walk down the street and I just bang into you, he said, you won't see it. You won't feel it. But 5 hours later, your heart will explode. So so, obviously, I wanna get to the material on the book, but I also wanna hear why would the CIA be interested in this guy? Not the CIA, someone who got a hold of the technology that the CIA uses because what what what would the CIA care for? You can't have a little guy in New York coming up with a cure to cancer, which is a $200,000,000,000 a year business. Connect the dots. So when I went to his funeral, and it was upstate New York, one of those little churches that looked like George Washington went to church there, you know what they look like. It was packed with his patience. There wasn't one person there who looked ill, not one gaunt face, not one, you know, the eye sunk, not one gray complexion, not one cane, not one wheelchair. Everybody had vitality and juice. I always talk about energy and vitality as juice. And then the reception after were all the stories of 26 years ago, I was told to get my things in order, and I've been doing Gonzales all these years. He never said I have a cure, but all his patients that I interviewed from my book said, you know, they were cured. So so so can I ask, like, let's say it was a different kind of cancer, like lung cancer or matter? So the same enzymes? Matter. Yeah. Doesn't matter if it's a whole body, one organ, breast, prostate, doesn't matter. How come, like, someone like Steve Jobs and I'm not being skeptical. I'm just curious because Yep. Obviously, now this is gonna be the thing I do. It's the you're the last person I speak to about it, and that's the thing I do. So so how come Steve Jobs or somebody like that, who did try holistic approaches, he ended up going back to, you know, the whole whippersnapper thing? Didn't believe. Maybe it wasn't the right approach. Mhmm. Belief is a huge thing. Belief is powerful. And all these people at Nick Gonzales' funeral had a total belief in him. I have a total belief in him. So I'm more apt to be able to tackle cancer in me than someone who doesn't believe. I think belief is that powerful. So the book is not about cancer, but it's but it's about other ways. Because I know most people are most comfortable going allopathic. Like I said, you know, here's the here's the the problem doctor. Here's the drug for the problem. I prefer first to try natural any way I can. And then if absolutely necessary, I go allopathic or western. And I've been using so when I had cancer, that that's I just didn't want it when when I was presented with it, I have to say that took some courage because I had to watch, Dan Rather on CBS say she risking her life. I was on the cover of People Magazine, is she risking her life? Larry King with Andrew Weil, is she risking her life? And I'm hearing from everybody, everybody's looking at me with that. What are you crazy? What are you doing? Is it any crazier to, change the way you eat and eat? Take food seriously. Food is fuel. Imagine this is a Maserati putting the most, powerful food in this great machine that we have. So I ate only and I do eat only organic food. If you can pick it, pluck it, milk it, or shoot it, you can eat it. And if it's organic, food, thoughts, sleep. I know it sounds too simple, but maybe that's what I said a little while ago. Maybe they're making it more complicated than it than it is. I I mean and we were just talking about this too that I we were talking about I've had over 500 episodes of this podcast. Many of them have been with health practitioners. And the one everybody could argue about every single diet. Right. But the one or two things they agree on is low sugar, low processed food, good sleep Mhmm. And some exercise. Uh-huh. But, James, you know what I really Suzanne's been a little bit too humble in this situation because I've been in practice 30 years. And I remember even as a young doctor 25 years ago too when she was coming out with her books and doing her things. And today, a lot of these things are commonplace now, and people I mean, so many of my patients are so interested in eating healthy. You know, the things that she brought out 25, 30 years ago were bold. And especially to come out from a nonmedical professional, even more bold. And I think what she was sort of even tying into, and you're up against the pharmaceutical industry. They would much more prefer to have a a drug where you have to pay $1,000 a month to get injected than to eat more natural foods or do certain things. So, you know, I think what she did, and she's being a little bit humble about it, it was tremendous and especially in the time when she did it. And now I think she deserves the credit of being, you know, like, a a senior, because we would call a senior holistic professional. Supposed to be called senior. I'm not senior. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. That I was playing the dumbest woman in America. The hard part. Right? That's right. I was such a transition to make to come on right now. Reporter. That's right. But you were a sex symbol. You were a TV star. But at at the same time, also, you used it appropriately because, you know, again, you got that attention. Mhmm. And I think you did it all these years that I've read your work with with a certain kind of reverence to realizing, you know, you have a big responsibility. You can't give people false hope, and you can't do things that would undermine their relationship with their doctor, which is sometimes all these people have. Or the doctors that I interview. Yes. I I Well, I think that's take them very seriously. I I think that's key is that, you sort of balance, you know, your background with the fact that you're bringing in the authority of all these doctors who you've worked with, and you're you're interviewing them, asking them great questions. So they're kind of downloading this information to you. You then you're writing about it in this book, and you talk to so many amazing people. It's clear. They're knowledgeable in every aspect. So now what do you do for aging? Like, now you're keeping your health. You're keeping your juice. You're very energetic. And, you know, you talk about everything from, you know, DHEA supplements to telomere lengthening and and all these things. What what do you do? Well, you know, this year, I turned 73, and I thought, no. What's interesting about 73 is I always thought when I was 73, I'd be old. And chronologically, I'm old, but I'm not old. You're sitting here with me. I'm not old. I'm not an old lady. And so what's the difference? I I have embraced my age. I I'm not all pilled up so that I have my acquired wisdom. So I can perform my I'm I'm a matriarch, and that sounds like some old fashioned thing, but wisdom is the one thing that no young person can buy or have. And, what I'm I just was interviewed by 2 young women. They're in their thirties. And I said, you're the hope because you're not stuck in a in a thought process because they were both going, I'd rather go natural. I go, so so take take that, and don't go to the doctor like a child. Go to the doctor informed. You're the contractor. And doctors are professionals that we hire to take care of different parts of our body. But you can't hire the right, subcontractors if you don't know your job. And your job is the contract, you have to listen to the language of the body. Like, when you are in hormonal decline, such a language, it took me 3 years to hear it because I nobody ever mentioned menopause to me, and it was a secret. And when I was a kid, used to say in whispered voices, my mother's going through the change I hear. Remember the change? That was so shameful that our this natural thing that happened. It's very clear to me that we're here for one reason only, and that's perpetuation of the species. And so everything's working great. Everything's great while we're completely reproductive. So around 40, 45, earlier now because of stress and toxicity, which blunts hormone production, The brain goes, woah, this person's got lousy eggs. This person's got imbalanced hormones. This person can't make another baby. I gotta get rid of this person. I'm giving my brain a personality. We gotta get rid That was good impersonation of the brain. I gotta get rid of this person. Well, if you notice, we get our cancers at the end of our reproductive years. That's when I got mine because the the brain wants me out of here. Make room for the new young reproductive ones because it's perpetuation of the species. So now we got this dilemma because we figured out how to extend life. We're living longer. We're gonna live to 80, 90, and a 100 now. I've I've fully planned to live into my 100, but with no quality of life. And so what I started writing about, and I appreciate, your compliments, I started writing about quality of life. If I'm gonna be alive, I wanna be alive while I'm alive. What's alive? I wanna have a sex drive. I wanna have nice shiny hair. I don't wanna have unexplained weight gain. I don't want to have, insomnia. I don't wanna have night sweats. I don't wanna have hot flashes. I don't want to be forgetful. And so how do I rectify all of that? Lab work. Urine testing is the best, much better than saliva or blood testing to be accurate with, determining your hormone levels. But and to and to be clear, you list exactly All of it. What what blood work, what urine testing, and so on, what to check for and everything in the in the back of your book. Yeah. Yeah. So that you're not gonna read this book and go, well, I'd like it, but I don't know where to get it. You the book will tell you everything. The back of the book is as important as any other part of the book in this. And so you you, are able to test to determine your deficiencies. And then when that number comes back, you have a qualified doctor, like doctor Mitchell and and other doctors that are in this book, who understand you need some of this and you need some of that. We women drain out of progesterone as a general rule first. Who cares? Well, estrogen is carcinogenic. Progesterone is anti carcinogenic. So nature devised us so that we make estrogen every day of the month. And then 15 days of the month, we make progesterone. So just when our estrogen reaches a peak, which happens to coincide with the full moon, by the way, On 12th day of every month, we women make the most estrogen we're gonna make all month. What's interesting about that in paleo times when there was no light, we could make love by the light of the moon. And guess what? On 12th day, the light of the moon, we are horniest and most fertile, And this is perpetuation of the species. And then the next day, the estrogen drops and then progesterone comes in and nature had it all figured out. Okay. You're horny as hell today. We're gonna make a baby. If you did or didn't, that's good. But today, the progesterone comes in and saves the day, so now you're gonna not gonna get cancer. And we'll start this whole thing over again for next month. And that's how that's how it worked. And so that's how I take my hormones. I take my hormones in a cycle by estrogen. First 3 days, the lowest amount. The next 3 days, the, it rises in increments. And by the 12th day, I make the most estrogen, because I'm rubbing it in, that I make all month. And I'm very horny on the 12th day. Don't come around on the full moon. You can think of me every time I look forward to America, right, that you have sex twice a day. So congratulations. Now congratulations over there. So So when you see a full moon, you can say Suzanne's really horny tonight. And then tomorrow, the, the progesterone comes in. But isn't it nice look at a full moon the same way you can do. I hope not. Isn't it nice to understand this, that we are we cycle. We cycle to the lunar calendar. But let me ask you this. So you you say you rub it up, progesterone in, does that this is this is what I I you know, traditional doctors, because I've asked them about supplements and and and hormones and all this kind of stuff, they say everything from supplements just absolutely don't work because it'll never get in the bloodstream, or they'll say things like, you know, let's say testosterone replacement, doesn't work because then your body will think it no longer needs to produce testosterone. So you'll quickly, you know, take a dive on your body producing testosterone naturally. Like, what's what's the story as as far as you know? With all due respect, they're wrong. You know, for instance, you men with your testosterone, and this is backed up by doctor Abraham Morgan Thaler in this book. He's on the faculty at Harvard. He's, their chief urologist. He called me now it's been about 4 years. He said, I got something I think will interest you. I said, what? He goes, I just completed a small but, very significant study. Men came into my office. It didn't matter how high their PSA was. It didn't didn't matter if they had cancer or what stage cancer they had. He said in every single case, when I gave them testosterone as the antidote, their their, the prostates returned to normal size and the PSA went down. And the way he described it to me, and I'm not a doctor, that your prostate I love talking about here's your prostate. And it's like a woman's breast You're like you're like femsplaining to 2 men. It's just easier. Yeah. This is it's all about you guys. So here's your prostate, and, it's like a woman's breast. And you have ducts in your prostate. And in those ducts is where testosterone makes food for the sperm. So when you're young and you're making a full complement of testosterone, guess what? Your prostate's nice and tight and small. But as you age and you start declining in testosterone production, your prostate enlarges looking for its most essential building block, which is testosterone. But usually by the time it gets to here, in today's medicine with doctors, with all due respect, who don't understand, they rip that prostate out. And now the guy is no longer the guy he was. And now he's on expensive Lupron shot, which I think is $3 a shot, where as doctor Morgan Thaler in this book is saying, testosterone is the antidote. There's a beautiful story about a 90 year old guy who came in and wanted test testosterone for this. And so wouldn't you rather try that first before you had your prostate ripped out and see if this worked? And so my whole thing with natural you wait until things are at that level, or should you start earlier? No. No. Understand that testosterone is your friend. You know, my my husband is 10 years older than I am. He doesn't absorb testosterone cream. So we give him a shot every Tuesday. Got a little bit of not much. Just a little bit of fat right up above above his hip here, and I, you know, hold it together and stick the shot in. And, what I like about well, first of all, don't call us on Wednesday. But what I like about Yeah. Or So what are your restrictions with you? Full moon. Yeah. Right. I got a lot a lot a lot of parameters. But he works out with weights. And because he's on testosterone, he's buff. He's, like, solid. He's 83, and it's like he's built. I I I he's my act. I put him on Facebook Live. I do 2 Facebook Live shows a week, and I was selling, our organic, sea salt sugar scrub. And so I laid him on the the, massage table in his camouflage underpants, which looked really good on him. And I was massaging his back to to exfoliate. But really what the women were noticing and saying is, wow. He's in good shape. And, wow, his skin looks so smooth. And, wow, he's very muscular. There's an 83 year old guy who doesn't take drugs unless absolutely necessary, who, juices up on testosterone exactly in the in his exact deficiencies according to lab work. Once a week, he takes DHEA. And just supplements, the CAGs. And that works. It gets absorbed into the He takes, cortisol, hydrocortisone, in, capsule form. He takes thyroid, a grain and a half every day. This is all from lab h. Well, then HTH. I interviewed doctor Terry Hertog in this book. He's from Belgium. He's an interesting endocrinologist over there, and he's the reason that thyroid is legal in Europe and because it was illegal. Natural thyroid. You could buy the drug thyroid, but you couldn't buy the natural. So he he suggests in this book 2 things that I thought were very interested, targeted targeted peptide treatment. Like, what part of your body do you want, like, juice up in your body? What's not working at optimum? There each section of your body has peptides that are specific to it. Brain? Yeah. Even the brain. And, and also sex. There's a peptide shot for sex called PT, as in peptide, 141. That works on the the, brain, the part of the brain that, stimulate sexual same signals. I can't take it very much because I'm on full hormone replacement. So when I take it maybe once a month, it's almost too much for me. But how about for a female who is having trouble having any sexual feelings at all? How nice to be able to rev start that. But back to Alan and his muscles, testosterone, it feeds his brain, feeds his muscles, smooths out his skin, gives him vitality energy, and the rest of the hormones he takes. And for me, I'm like, I don't make any hormones. At 73, I don't make any. That's why 73 is usually old. I take estrogen every day of the month, progesterone, 15 days of the month, thyroid every day of the month, human growth hormone every day of the month, cortisol replacement. Did I say DHEA? Do you take, NAD plus boosters? Yeah. I wanted to talk about NAD. I think n a you were saying doctor doctor Richard Sinclair. No. It was No. David Sinclair. David Sinclair at Harvard. Yeah. Who said that NAD is the closest thing we found to the fountain of youth. Immortality immortality molecule, he likes to call it. Yeah. It is. I take it in capsule form every morning and every night. Mhmm. But I have a friend right now who's on the verge of dying. I won't say his name. He's a famous rock and roller. He's real cognitive decline. And, he if he has a stroke, it's over for him. He's now doing heavy duty NAD, 6 to 8 hours a day IV for the next month. IV? IV. And I've heard about he's the first one I've heard about doing this, but I thought, if I thought I'm that close to a stroke, even though 6 hours a day of IV, it's no different than people who go chemo for hours Or binge watch Game of Thrones. Or or Pablo Escobar. I that one too. Yeah. I've watched all of them and El Chapo. We're in a this is a new place that we're in, and it's really exciting that we can take control of our body, that we can replace we've lost in the aging process, including nutrients and minerals, and we can determine if we're absorbing our minerals. If you've had a lot of drugs in your life, pharmaceutical drugs, you're not absorbing minerals. You know that. Right. So so you have to take them as supplements? Yeah. But you have to be able to absorb them. I write about something called pubic and fulvic. But I like also too you mentioned a lot of your books, and I think this educates, you know, the public too. And I like to tell my patients this is I like a lot of type of supplements too in liquid or sublingual form because this way also you get right into your system. Yeah. Because when you swallow things like, sometimes I have patients who come in, they go they'll see a doctor, and they run 50 supplements, and that's a little bit hard on the stomach. And a lot of people, they lose their stomach acid as they get older. See, that's the whole thing too what Suzanne's pointing out too. We all it's part of aging. Our hormones go down. Our ability to digest supplements, even our food goes down. So there are ways that we can do to enhance that. So so and and and, Suzanne, you you mentioned so many different, you know, minerals and vitamins that are important. How do we kinda figure out how to balance out which ones to take, and how do we do we do we take them in liquids, supplement, IV? And and, I guess, with the blood test, we sort of determine what we're deficient in. Right? But then how do you determine how to take them? Taking 50 supplements a day is gagging. I do because I'm on the far end. And I I but if I only took one supplement, asked me one supplement, I would take a probiotic every morning and every night for the rest of my life. Yeah. Everybody's got something wrong with their gut. Everybody. Everybody. If you've ever talk about the gut microbiome Yeah. Here, and that and that's the that's the recommendation. If you've ever had an antibiotic, anti takes away, you need probiotic. And, I was in the hospital 10 years ago, and I was on IV antibiotics for 6 days, 24 hours a day for an infection I did not have. Just because you're in the hospital doesn't mean you're getting, you know, the best the best, advice. My gut was never the same again. I didn't know 10 years ago about probiotics. Why didn't the doctors know? They don't it's in medical school, you're learn everything you know, doctor Mitchell, is because you learned it outside of the box. A 100%. Because they're not teaching doctors these basic things. Anti takes away, pro puts back. Yeah. Why don't they teach you about probiotics? Because every woman I know knows to take probiotics. I know. Now She makes a great point, but, again, you see, that's again too where she took a lot of heat over the years where it had to come from, unfortunately, forces outside of conventional medicine to say, take a look at this. And something Suzanne said earlier too, I think it's so important, like, in her books and that and when people read, I like when a patient comes to me and said, I've read all about this. That doesn't intimidate me. That's like, okay. We're gonna have a good discussion now. Help you. And I'm gonna now try to guide you from my experience of treating maybe a 1000 patients been on antibiotics who need to use a probiotic or rebalance your microbiome. So I think it's important to this work that she's putting out there and that, hopefully, the public and patients find practitioners who are gonna work with them. Because I think also to do it alone yourself I mean, you're very bright, and you've had access to a lot of tremendous people. Scary. It's very tough. I that's why this book will give you the confidence to ask the right questions. And you hit the whole spectrum of this book. Like, I was just looking at some of my notes. Like, you you know, you talk about stem cell therapy, which but I also wanna ask about you mentioned, the vegan diet, and I thought this was an interesting quote. You don't you you've never heard of a single, centenarian, you know, someone who lives over a 100 years old who was vegan or or vegetarian. Well, 3 different scientists now have said to me, vegans don't live as long. And because meat has all the amino acids Right. Right. I agree. Someone who looks really good and the tightness of their skin, that's their amino acids. And Steve, are you you listening? There's just a temporary phase he's going through. You know, we we've we've villainized hate, but we our bodies were designed for it. So it's just the quality of the meat. Organic, grass fed, grass fed is the key is the key thing. There's one other thing that happens. I know you're going to another question, but I just wanted to say, as we age, we lose, hydrochloric acid and digestive enzymes. Why you care? Well, if you're not making sufficient hydrochloric acid in your stomach, you can't digest your food. So you can be eating the highest quality food available, and you can end up malnourished. And then you're not making sufficient digestive enzymes to grind it all up. I had radiation when I had cancer 20 years ago, a decision I would not make today, and I didn't wanna make it then. I got talked into it. I'll never get talked into anything ever again because, they they immediately after you have radiation, and then you have all these terrible reflux and terrible stomach issues and everything, and then then they give you Nexium or Prevacid or something like that. And then you feel terrible because you're on these drugs. It turns out that radiation depletes your body's ability to make hydrochloric acid for life. Mhmm. That's an important thing to say to someone. I didn't even know that. I didn't even know that. I didn't even know yeah. Because I know I know it goes down with people. I know I see so many patients, as you mentioned in some of your books, with Candida yeast overgrowth because they've been on prolonged courses of antibiotics or acid blocks. I mean, again, every every commercial you watch, Nexium, Protonix, and nothing. You know? And Look how many commercials there are that shows you how prevalent this is. It is. People and now it's over the counter. Yeah. So nobody even you know, you could just do it on your own forever. And hydrochloric acid is just something that diminishes with aging. It's another one of the things that declines. You gotta put back in. So because I've had radiation, every meal I eat, I take 6 capsules of hydrochloric acid. That's a lot. But I have I make none. I make none. So here's what look at look at what I do to remain, vital and juicy and all the things that I wanna be. I completely replace all the hormones that I don't make anymore, all of them. I completely replace the hydrochloric acid my stomach doesn't make. I completely replace the digestive enzymes that my body doesn't make. I take, fish oil. I take, of, I take so so many things. I'm I'm looking at my cabinet. What's the NAD booster you take? A life extension NAD Booster. I I really enjoyed writing about that. The other thing is senolytics. And senolytics, which I'd never heard of before I wrote this book. As we get older, our cells fill with cellular debris. That's why we that ages us. It makes us sluggish. It makes us slow down. The cells aren't working. You're 40 trillion cells, so your cells aren't working at optimum. Senolytic activator, which is about $8 a month, and you take it once a week, cleans out cellular cellular debris. If you take senolytic activator, and I tell you where to get it in the book, I don't sell it. I wish I did. And NAD, which repairs DNA breaks. Here you have the thing that what we are, which is cells starting to rejuvenate and heal and come back to optimal life, and that's going to give you longer life, quality of life, and extended life. Wow. So I have to say, so people and and Al, can you you're describing Steve's fault. It's Steve's fault. It's Okay. Trust me. It's Steve's fault. Unless Alan's the same as Steve, it's Steve's fault. Same. Are they the same? But I was running a lecture here. Oh, okay. So, Suzanne, you're killing me because I gotta catch a train. Oh. And I wanna talk to it for the next 2 hours with you. I I Let's do it again. But, yeah, I I we have to do it again because I see. I think this is really the way through. One really important for people to know that there's another way. Not that you have to do it this way, but that they're only convinced there's one way, the the allopathic way that we've all been doing. And we're over here going, or this, and you might look into it and you might feel better. Maybe you won't. I do. I I like the way I'm aging. I thought when I was 73, I'd be old. I'm not old. I'm not old. You and I see Alan here who looks like vibrant. You guys are like really 30 year olds. And, you have more energy than me. I'm the one, guy fall asleep in the night. But, you know I'm not trying to be young. I don't care about that. I want my insides to be young, and that manifests on the outside. And I I love that I've got a whole other chapter Yeah. And probably more after that. And and I want women and men to know it ain't over. And and, again, this book contains so much information, not only from your own experiences, but from these great interviews you do with with innumerable doctors. We can't Yeah. Count results. I never counted them. Wait. We haven't counted them. But you talk about everything from you know, there's there's chapters about testosterone and the hormone system. The the you talk about toxicity and how the environments we're in are often toxic and how to what to do about that. You talk about the gut. You talk about NAD boosters. You and senolytics and telomeres, and we didn't get to cannabis and other energy medicines. But, fortunately, people could buy your book, A New Way to Age, and get all this. And I'm gonna hold you to it that at some point, we're gonna do a part 2 of this because I've got Could we? I've got selfishly 50 or 60 more questions to ask. So Could we could we do another one? I'd really like that. It's up to you. Yeah. No. Alright. Good. I'm sorry. I have Okay. Training in half hour. In the spring, or we could always do this by phone. I'd like to. Yeah. I'd like to do it in person. So when you're when you're back in a few months, we'll we'll we'll do it. And, thank you so much. Yeah. I've been, obviously, a fan for a long time. Thank you. And now I'm a a fan from this book as well. Thank you. I'm I'm super inspired, and and I encourage people to read this. We didn't get to everything I wanted. We will get to it, but let's at least pay attention to what you said here and and read the book. And thank you once again for Thank you. For coming on the podcast. Thank you. And gray hair. Thank you. You too. Thanks. How nice. I'm sorry. I had to go out. No. Go. Get out of here.
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