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Just was already sick of all my customers, I was like, this business. All right, so ready to throw in the towel and I literally to talking and I was like, Kagan, I can't do this. I need a real thank you. You're listening to pop apologists. I'm your co-host Lauren Bledsoe. And today we discuss how Meghan is handling the turmoil that is Utah's recurring earthquake situation, Chandler's quarantine quest to find herself the dramatic highs and lows of Lauren's home bakery business, which celebrities are selling. $28. Hand sanitizer to profit from the coronavirus pandemic. And this week's episodes of Vanderpump Rules. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, New York. And an impassioned PSA for Lauren to not miss the boat on the best show on television. 90 Day Fiance say buckle in, baby. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Welcome back, everybody. Episode three of the gang getting back together, we're here. We've got more in myself and Megan. Guys, how's the week been? How are you feeling? I am rattled, and I'll tell you why Utah had itself a little earthquake a month ago. One month ago, we had a 5.7, which is like significant. We had like a week or two off, and so I thought that life was finally back to normal. And then we had two aftershocks this week that were over a 4.0. So I don't even I don't feel like it's even an aftershock at this point. I don't understand it. They're like, Hey, so there's actually just more earthquakes. We were wrong to call them aftershocks. Yeah. Like when Emily, my friend Katy looked it up and she, like, found a website and it said the aftershocks can last for days, weeks or even years. Oh my gosh, years like this is that Katy? She was like, This is the laziest piece of science I've ever seen. I mean, it's shocking if that's the state of the scientific community. I don't believe in evolution. I'll just go ahead and say it. There was one gentleman that I watched on the news the day of the earthquakes. He had a very soft jaw and an odd facial hair structure, and he was just sitting there. He was like, so excited that there was an earthquake and then they were like, What does this mean? He's like, I don't know. I don't know what to tell you. And they're like, When's the next one? He's like, hard to say, and I'm like, What is your job? Hard to say. Well, what? What do you do? Who is paying you? I like, what benefit are you providing? I just don't. I don't understand. I don't know. Anyway, I don't know if you guys remember this, but I dated a geologist, and this is probably one of the most boring experiences of my life. I was having to be regaled with tales of, you know, what makes mountains and how rivers form whenever we would go anywhere. But he told me about how Utah and especially the Wasatch Front, is due for this cataclysmic earthquake and that this earthquake is going to basically, like dismantle civilization along the waterfront. That's how he described it. Thank you so much. This is really soothing, comforting and this male civilization. Just yeah, that. So he says that it dismantled, OK. He said that this earthquake was due and it's way overdue, and they happened one once every three hundred years. And so that led me into like a bit of a panic because, you know, once every three hundred years, that's once every four or five lifetimes. Again, not great at math, but you know, I was very, very scared. And when I was living in Utah, I lived in this this brick apartment that basically would have just completely crumbled. It was built in the early nineteen hundreds, and so I was just completely petrified. Remember, I called Courtney and I said, Can I move in with you? My sister Courtney, I said, Can I move in with you? I can't be in this apartment anymore. Someone fun, fun fact. Someone was coming to buy the apartment and buy the whole building. And it was the small Persian man, and he was, you know, just going to be my new landlord. And he was just coming to look at the building. And I just. And I said, Hey, I just have to pull you aside and let you know that actually, this entire region is due for a cataclysmic earthquake that will level this new investment that you're thinking about. And he just kind of looked at me and I was like, I would highly recommend not buying this building. You probably won't even be here in a couple of years. I'm trying to get out right now. And so he ended up not taking my advice, buying the apartment. I ended up doing more and more research. And lo and behold, this earthquake happens once every three hundred thousand years, not once every 300 years. So the Earth even alive for three hundred thousand years? Yes, definitely. I have no idea. It sounds like there were. Those are just the musings of like a schizophrenic 20 year old. I mean, I think my boyfriend just misspoke or I misheard, and that was really the cause of the issues. But again, this is all to say. I understand earthquake anxiety. I feel for you, Megan. And I'm really sorry you're going through this. Chandler, how was your week? So I've started to reframe this entire experience for myself to a quarantine quest to find myself. So the question this week that has plagued me is how? How do we feel about clear nail polish? Is this someone I can become like, you know, am I truly comfortable being this natural? I'm going to say that my nails are a disaster, and I just decided that I'm going to become a person who does clear nail polish because that is just bare minimum. I'm just trying to, you know, do whatever I can to look polished while I'm in sweatpants all day. Polished, yes. Literally polish as opposed to like a color, because I'm overall the colors that I have. And I think because my nails, I've cut them all because of corona. They look really trashy when they're like, painted and short. So I just rather like, totally remove myself from the narrative of having cute nails and I just want to have nice nails. Got a clip of you? Yeah. Exactly. So, anyways, I'm on day three of clear nail polish. I don't feel great, I might. Maybe I will be destined to be a clear nail polish brunette. I'm not sure what a journey is a year. Your journey to find yourself in the quarantine has really just culminated in a discussion on clear nail polish. Yes, what? I'm what I'm comfortable living with. Gotcha. Gotcha. Are there any other things that you're willing to give up like? Meghan gave up hair extensions, eyelash extensions. She's been sacrificing a lot. Everything, really? Yeah, I would say that the clear the nail polish is just a sign of my dignity at large, fully given up. So it's more of a symbol. You know what? It's a simple. Sure, the irony of it all is I went into this thinking it was going to like, I was going to be gorgeous, like I was just going to spend my days in a face mask and like a conditioning treatment. I was like, I am going to emerge stunning. I had really high expectations. It reminds me of I used to really want to start a spa where you could check in and be put under a medically induced coma for like a month or like a week where you forget because I got like a chemical peel one time and it was brutal to live with for a week. And so I was like, All I want to do is get a chemical peel b being a little coma, take a nice week long nap. All emerge like maybe I could lose a little weight. I could act like I want them to just do all. I was going to call it the chrysalis salon because you would just go into it a caterpillar and emerge a butterfly. And I really thought that that's what was going to happen. But instead, what has happened is we're in clear nail polish. We all have roots. We're all gaining weight. We're like, it's not bringing out a cute side of anyone. It's the exact opposite we thought it would be. Megan, are you literally on the frontier of a billion dollar idea? Because it's really good, right? Really good. Like, I can think of so many things like drug addicts, so many people who could really use just a month of not being aware. I know. I mean, also, this is how Michael Jackson died. So it's maybe not awesome. You know, I've also never, you know, to be, like, carefully monitored for sure. I've never been under anesthesia. I hear it's not great, but I'm willing to try it, and I just feel like I would be in like a hospital bed rested with like one of those gel mask things on my hands and treatment in my hair. Somebody comes in every day to like, check me for bedsores and reapply a retinol treatment. And like, I just think it could be stunning and that's what I thought this was going to be. I did not realize that it would result in like overgrown eyebrows. Well, it's also just it's hard to be motivated, I think, to do a lot of self-improvement regimens when there's no one knew to see you tomorrow. Where are the results going to go your living room? That's it. I am only using cheap shampoo. I'm not. I'm not putting any extra effort into anything that I'm doing because there's no point I say cheap shampoo. Can you elaborate like, Oh, I was earlier. I'm not talking like the VO5 cheap, but I'm talking L'Oreal like a live live or something. It's five dollars. It's five ninety nine. It's really economical and I've been loving it. What I want to say, though, is that as someone who has been under anesthesia, not for Anastasia, but like a twilight for one, I got my nose job. Cat's out of the bag. Yo, yeah, it is delightful. I was able to move in and out of my rhinoplasty mentally, so seamlessly through that could transcend the surgery center and I went to the mall. I came back, continued getting my nose job. I went all these places in my mind and it was wonderful. And I emerge, you know, really looking new but also feeling brand now. Yeah, I think the possibilities are endless, right? Like perhaps while you're under, they play like a gentle therapy meditation tape so that you could really get your mind right. You could maybe get a little like orthodontia done if you needed to like just really anything. Let's get to our deck for Shark Tank. Like ready to go. Hello, Shark Foot. I got an idea for you. OK, well, speaking of of sharks, let's talk about celebrities. Wait, can we go play? Lauren has an updated Oh sorry, I forgot. I forgot to drink to celebrities. She meant you. Let's go straight to the celebrity curator of our Instagram feed, which, by the way, has grown exponentially. Laura, thank you, Lauren. Both content and followers. She she's putting in the work for our content and it's incredible. Yeah, it doesn't go unnoticed. I am. Well, OK. So I'm loving creating names that has become my new, you know, obviously my new profession in this time of not having a profession. And I'm just loving it like I'm loving and loving making memes. So that's been fun. But I would just say I would call right now what? I'm going through a joblessness journey, right? Sure. So to catch people up who are maybe tuning in for the first time, I lost my job due to coronavirus. My company laid off 100 employees of our one hundred and thirty workforce. So it was a pretty deep cut, and virtually everyone I know was let go, so it's pretty wild. But as you all know, I've had many business ideas, many small business ideas. So the first idea that came to me was a bakery out of my home. I have been really quick. This is this is an idea that came to you. Days after you had the press making about the ingredients in a race crispy treat, I just like to know. Correct. Yeah. Well, one of the things about my personality is that I tend to go all in on ideas I have, no matter how unproven, how ill thought through just completely untested. So I remember thinking how? Because I was loving, just like spending time alone in the kitchen, listening to some music and baking. That was a little bit of my therapy during this time. And so I was thinking, what if I could just sell what I make? Make people smile, give them a delicious treat? That's how I make money. What a clean, honest way to be alive in the world and clean and honest. I love that. Yeah, I bought some boxes on Amazon and some ribbon, and I got the Instagram handle fresh, homemade cookies. Although I went that deep, you bought the supplies without talking about the Instagram handle. Yeah, no. I was fully like planning this business in my new life as a baker. Wait, what? Hold on. Plug it one more time. Can we do a cross promotion with it? It's fresh, homemade cookies. It's homemade out of your out of by home track employee yeah. And free delivery for 50 a cookie. What's the delivery area like? Just your complex or something? Or Yeah, previous. I would say delivery within southern Orange County. So probably a 15 mile radius, which is pretty far. That's generous. It is generous, indeed. So do you have a car? Because at one point, didn't you get rid of a car to only use Uber, if you like? That would have been a rough situation now. So this is an example of a time where I have thought of an idea and completely just grabbed on to it. Yeah, I did at one point sell my car with the thought that I would just start to bring everywhere. This was a real thing. It did happen. I do remember that week that that happened. It was like a Saturday that you came to this conclusion that you could our town or hometown or Lauren lives. You could uber at a discounted rate. They have a partnership with the city. So Lauren decided, I'm going to sell my car. You could use over two hours and I figured out what you can uber anywhere in San Clemente, within San Clemente, Uber anywhere for two dollars or left, huh? I remember there was a Q&A on your Instagram Stories. You did it like a Q&A for the public at large. Yeah. So about like why you were making this choice? Exactly. I got a lot of questions. I was I was live with you during this entire process. You told me about the idea on Saturday. You had turned over. You would soldier lease by Wednesday. And then Thursday morning you texted me and said, I feel like I'm getting into a lot of strangers cars. It took me a full 72 hours to realize that living without a car was really gonna work, even if it was economically more feasible. It just really was scary being in like six different men's cars. Oh yeah, that that was in danger. I just hadn't fully appreciated. Mm hmm. So anyway, that's I did things about you. Thank you. Great. It is great. Just a full commitment. You have. You have a drive and a passion for new ideas and and you fully commit yourself to them. And I don't have half that energy or passion for anything. So I dive headfirst tuna fish and and my like. I dive headfirst and my cookie business was no exception. I literally call Chandler because Chandler, unfortunately, is like the poor soul who has to listen to every new idea with feigned enthusiasm and pretending this isn't the first time or the millionth time. I mean that I've had some idea that I'm so passionate about it. It's a hundred percent going to work. It was like nine fifteen when you called me and you're like, Hey, I've got an idea, I want to run by you. So I think I literally said, I don't think I need another job like I think that I can make this work. What if I just completely? Yes. Anyway, so I was fully planning on this. I go to actually execute on the business idea. And my first batch, I got an order from my mother, who I know who I told about my business idea. She said, I'll be your first customer is a great. It'll be $18 dollars for a box, for cookies in a box. So I got to make her her cookies and it was honestly, like, pretty stressful. A big part of my value proposition was the cookies would be warm. So it was stressful to have a time when I would get to her house, when the cookies would be just down enough to wear just enough to where they would get be warm when they got there, but they wouldn't be too gooey. And then also, I bought a box with a clear container so you could see the cookies, which I thought was a good idea. But then the box was it was too big. So the four cookies were. Like washing about lounging around, getting the box greasy, I wasted three boxes just trying not to get the fox greasy as I was loading the food into it. It just ended up being like the most stressful experience. And then as the rubber hit the road for me in this idea, I I got kind of practical and so I said, OK, I have to replace my past income. How many cooks wanting to sell per month? And it broke out to fifteen hundred cookies. So I don't think that that was realistic. I was going to say, if you felt like cookies were replacing your former job, you were either wildly underpaid, your cookies were wildly overpriced. Yeah. Or I was just like, wildly stupid about the whole uncalculated, calculated uncalculated to really helping you. I really hope the sharks are not listening right now to a venture. But please don't let this flavor your opinion of the chrysalis spot because I feel like these ideas are separate. OK, well, thanks for distancing yourself from my brand. I really appreciate that. I just wanted one note for the cookie business. I think you should explore the handle warm, fresh, homemade cookies that can just like turn you to like one degree more like different from everybody else. So just explore that the Instagram handle still live or you still post. I still have Russia make cookies. I mean, no, I just I just got the Instagram handle. I didn't. I didn't post to it. But then I realized, like, not only what I have to bake and deliver fifteen hundred cookies and package them. I would also have to market this business to actually get the business to, you know, I have to take the orders and have to talk to the customers like this would become a nightmare, like becoming like a baking. What's what's the word? Not embarrassed. Becoming like a baking tyc**n out of my home was really funny. First, Typekit, I was going to say the word is, Ah, what is it? It's a boy. That would be me. You would have to bake 50 cookies every single day, seven days a week, 30 days in a month and also have. And also apart from that, everywhere your screw would be taking you off, taking all the orders, responding to all the Instagram messages and the stupid questions people have like, I just was already sick of all my customers. I was like, this business guy so ready to throw in the towel. And I literally took toking and I was like, Kagan, I can't do this. I need a real thing like, I actually think I need to get a real job. I don't know why Kagan is like still my boyfriend, given how annoying I am because he manages to not to not laugh at me or like not treat me like I'm absurd. He was like, Yeah, maybe that is a great idea. Like, maybe you can get a real job. When I told him about my bakery, he was like, I think my be great. You love baking. But he's always supportive. I wonder how naive or stupid I am. So anyway, my baking business is closed for good. Before it even opened, our own baking no longer be being out of my house. She's no I can no longer take in. And so I've consigned myself to or resigned myself to the reality that I do have to get another job which is dark. And I've been thinking about all of the things I'm looking forward to in the new job and all of the things I'm not looking forward to in the job. And it's really the list is short. I think that I'm looking forward to going to a cute place every day. I'm looking forward to being able to wear cute outfits and have people show them to. I'm looking forward to cute conversations like in cute environments with people, so I'm looking forward to being like a mid-century ask. This is assuming I get some really posh like cute job, which is, you know, a lot of cute, a lot of cute happening, just naively optimistic once again. But anyway, I'm looking forward to looking forward to being able to order like an $18 c**ktail without a second thought. Like, I'm looking forward to being able to pay through the nose or elderflower bitters and not even not even have a second thought about it. So I'm looking forward to all those things, things I'm not willing to do. But having another job assuming you can get one is like having to do anything, having a ball, having deliverables. I would love one hundred thousand dollars and no responsibilities like that is the job I'm looking for. It's not the job I'm finding on ZipRecruiter. I think they're handing those out. I think, yeah, I think is a huge market for those. So I like like, there's not a lot of demand for it. So I think you'll be able to just swap. Yeah. Nobody's really looking for that right now. I mean, no one must be looking for that because I cannot find those jobs anywhere. It is, it is dark and the. Other thing I'm really not looking forward to. And this is more of a real thing is I'm not looking forward to being afraid of getting fired again because I'm one of those people that even when I'm getting raises every, you know, every couple of quarters and I'm getting performance reviews that are really good and everything's positive, I'm still always paranoid. I'm about to get fired or what. I'm just a paranoid person. And so I'm just like, I actually love being fired because I don't want to go back. To be fired is a great lie. And a lot of ways. So anyway, yes, I'm resigned to getting another job, throwing myself back on the gears of industry and that work week. So I'm probably going to start to start applying in the month or so. Can I just have to tell you I woke up in the middle of the night last night with a little bit of anxiety. I had half an early bird gummy and I swear to you within 30 minutes, I was peacefully dozing off. Early bird CBD gummies are magic. They're truly magic. They are literally magic. I don't want to travel without them. I don't want to be without them. I think it's the twelve point five milligrams of CBD, two point five milligrams of THC. It's that little c**ktail. It gives you the warmest Julius fuzzy feeling. It feels so good. It's so light. Also, one bottle last so long, it's a lot of product. Also, I feel like I prefer it to drinking at this point. Absolutely. You guys go to Earlybird CBD RT.com Use Code Pop Apologist 20 for 20 percent off your order. You will not regret it. Earlybird CBD Icon Use Code Pop Apologists 20 Speaking of the industry and profits, yeah, you mentioned something earlier to me this week, earlier this week about certain celebrities profiting off of Misrata. OK, so here is the T on Teri and Heather Dubrow for our listeners who don't watch Real Housewives. Heather is a was a Real Housewife on The Real Housewives of Orange County, and they've set up their own empire. They are skincare tyc**ns. Well, her husband's her husband's a plastic surgeon. Yes, you could also see him on Botched the star botched. Yeah. Co-star Yeah. Co-star Botched. He has a highly successful plastic surgery firm. They have lines for console, their blindspot, console, beauty and it's with ease. E shop or something I don't really know. I don't know the name. It's something like QVC. Yeah, they always seem to fly to the Midwest to like, do QVC stuff. Right, exactly. So anyway, the story goes, they have been selling pants and the ties are six ounce and sanitized sanitizer bottles for twenty eight dollars and ninety five cents. Interesting in the like infomercials about it, these hand sanitizers are incredible. They're nothing like what's on the market trying to justify the price you say. Like this is exactly what we used before going into the operating room. It's like, Oh yeah, you use rubbing alcohol to like, Wow, yeah, it's like, Yeah, it's like this pre-surgery technology was super interesting about this is that they've sold eighty thousand units of this hand sanitizer in the past two weeks, where on their show, whenever that thing is for real, it's ever been. Yeah, it's even they've sold 80000 units translates to two point three million dollars in sales, so they probably get 50 percent of that. What's super interesting about this is that when all this started hitting the fan, Heather started posting on her stories on Instagram, basically saying that we need to donate money to help people and we need to donate money to food banks and how they had bought a truck of food for this food bank. And that was thirty five thousand dollars. And when I first saw the story, I didn't know about the hand sanitizer drama, so I thought, Wow, thirty five thousand is a lot. That's really great that they're doing things for the community, really. When you profited in the past two weeks, at least over a million dollars. Thirty five k, it's so disgusting to me. Did they sell that hand sanitizer before this? Or is this like a new product that they developed, like due to the coronavirus demand? No, I think they sold it before, and it kind of made any information on if it what if they had raised the price or not? But OK, I know that you had done some research on Kylie Jenner and she just donated hand sanitizer. Yeah. Kylie never made it before. So like, this is something that they just because it is like a relatively easy we've heard of, like a lot of different companies that have been able to like start producing hand sanitizer just because it's not a super complicated product. And so Kylie Cosmetics started making hand sanitizer, but they're not selling any of it. They're like making it in mass to donate to, like Los Angeles area hospitals and stuff. Well, hand sanitizer is just aloe, just rubbing alcohol. That's it. Yeah. So now and maybe you can start making some of your own. Maybe this. Homemade hand sanitizer, warm, fresh, homemade hand sanitizer. Now, all of a sudden, the $28 price tag sounds pretty good to me, like that seems reasonable. What's the math on that? Twenty eight dollars, how many dollars? More than a box of cookies? Yeah. Oh my gosh, you guys, you guys are so smart. It's all about margins these days. There really is. But yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting to find out. I was actually talking with a friend this past weekend about like when all the dust settles from this, it will be very interesting to see the numbers of individuals and people who like, like profited off of this because that's always a thing. Like, yeah, people that likes like saw me and like jumped in to start helping do stuff and people who saw the need and were like, Oh, what a great business opportunity. Yeah, right. And it'll be very interesting. There's definitely a spectrum, I would say. Like if you saw, I don't know, a stock price go down a lot and bought some stock at a good price. That's one thing to personally profit from this environment, but it's another thing to be basically capitalizing on like, you know, price gouging, longer supplies. Yeah, yeah. I have really loved. I think a lot of celebrities are kind of panicking right now because the thing socially social media wise like the thing that they all did before is falling so incredibly tone deaf. Like, there were so many things from celebrities that were like talking about their stay at home, like, Hey, we're staying at home. You should, too. And people were like, You live in a twenty thousand square foot home with like seven pools and a backyard, like all of the stuff that celebrities used to do before is like kind of an influencer thing about like like bragging about stuff that they had or their cars or their homes or whatever, which, like most of us, consumed very happily. Like, I would love to see your architectural digest walk through or you're like, it's falling so tone deaf now that it's been really funny to see how many people have kind of just shut down. Yeah, it's like, Oh, no. Like, no one wants to hear or see this right now. Well, have you seen have you seen Kendall talking to Justin Bieber? Yeah. Like, I just saw it for the money it was. It was so like he he was basically saying, we're lucky in this position, which the thought is correct. But there just wasn't the real perspective because what he should have said was were absurdly lucky. We have way more like exponentially more than so many people. It just makes you think that this whole environment is so unfair and it makes you really reconsider, like what part you're playing in this system. Like, he should have just been way more introspective about it is stupid. It just came across as so tone deaf. Well, do you say like, well, we shouldn't have feel bad about it, like we shouldn't feel guilty? Oh yeah, you're right. It's like showing people who have that many resources right now where there are people in the Philippines and in India who cannot shelter in place like you should feel a little guilty. You should like look within yourself and just consider the amount of resources you're taking up as one person compared to how many resources so many people don't have. Yeah, right. Yep. Yeah. Speaking of resources stimulus checks, folks, I know I got mine. How did you spend it? What's the first thing you bought with your stimulus check? First thing I bought, I bought some pretzels from Amazon. These pretzels are not just they're not any old pretzels. These are a Midwestern delicacy that your general diet and habits are not unlike an elementary school person packing a lunch. So it's like a I like getting a return to childhood foods. Oh, congratulations. Did you actually get the check that was signed that had his name on it or did it just get right? Trump came to my door with a big tech. He knocked or Secret Service knocked, and then he stood out there and I gave him a kiss on the mouth and there was balloons and confetti. Oh, it's incredible. Wonderful. Megan, the jobless rate is surging now. No, I don't want to sound tone deaf, but I don't get a stimulus check. Oh, good for you. That's hot. Well, I did get a stimulus check. I don't mean to brag it wasn't the full amount and it wasn't the full twelve hundred, although it should have been since. Now my income is nothing. But anyway, I went to target straight away and did a full cabinet refresh. And so I'm loving my new dining plates, my new stemware, my new silverware and bottom chargers. Have you ever heard of a charger? It goes underneath the plate for what I was looking online. I was like, It does it charge your phone? I literally. It took me a full couple of minutes to get my brain wrapped around this term anyway. I bought some things to dine with a little bit more pizzazz and panache. So then we have like a formal dining set up. A charger is really a commitment. I do not. I actually we all we have is a bar. What is the charger look like? I'm very Shotts native. Woven. It's a woven charger. Well, that's great. So now do you leave? Like, do you leave place settings out, like you're a model home that stayed? Oh no, we just always have dinner for two ready like full set up. I considered it and I actually googled do you leave place settings out because they are so beautiful? But it just seems like an old person thing to do. It is pretty old and I don't want my plates and my chargers, for that matter, to get dusty. So now they're still. I have a friend that married a guy 17 years her senior and I went over to their house the first time to meet and chat whatever. And it was the house that he already own, like she moved into his home and it was like a lovely home. It had been decorated like really? Well, it was very nice. But there was a giant dining room table and there was a full place setting at every single thing. And I stopped like it threw me off more than anything where I was like, This is something that people do like my grandmother does because she's, like, very proud of her China and stuff like that and likes to switch it up. But I did not know that that was something that people our age did, and I guess I'm relieved to hear that it is not because I never have. Yeah, it is not. I think it might be somewhat of a southern thing to do or yeah, but no, I am not doing that no matter how delightful my dining scape could be. Oh yeah. Tables game. People skate like you're a below deck person, just like a are setting the table and like sprinkling some of those decorative pebbles around. Wow. I love the word tables, games. I love to use it and I like the scripts that I write and just on a beautiful table scape, it just it's a nod to knowing what you're talking about. Alas, should we get into a glass? Indeed. Sorry, I was really thrilled by that. I really was. I just kind of have a lot to say about some of our shows. Yeah, let's get into it. Television and kicked off this week. Television in, and we were really down on TV last week because there's some real garbage out there, but it's picked up. Can we just agree to? We can. Let's just get Vanderpump out of the way. Here's what I'm going to say about it. I can't get past Tom yelling at Katie a couple of episodes ago. So this episode, I don't believe in their love. I hardly believe in the show. I don't know if I'm going to continue watching it. I kind of became grossed out with the whole like. So Lisa Vanderpump snuck a bra into one of the guys like for those of you who don't watch real quick tidbit, there was like a wasn't a vow renewal. It was these two characters. Tom and Katie got married a couple of years ago. It turns out they never turned in their paperwork, so they weren't actually married this whole time. So they went to Vegas to have a secondary wedding. Lisa Vanderpump, the granddaddy of the show that kind of started this. That's all of their bosses and is a solid 40 years older than them, like snuck her bra into the groom's suitcase as like a fun, little cheeky thing. And I just kind of thought like a gross b. Like, I don't really appreciate this narrative of her, like popping into the show, so everyone could say how, like, sexually attracted they are. It feels very desperate and kind of crazy. And also, I'm very about gender equality, and if the roles were reversed, that would be so wildly inappropriate for a male boss to be, like, sneak in his underwear and one of his late like, it's so gross in tone, it's just inappropriate in general. I don't want to get on to Beverly Hills yet because I know that's a whole other topic, but I will just say I just don't miss Lisa Vanderpump don't. I don't find her storylines interesting anymore. It's just all the same shtick. It's all the same jokes. I don't enjoy watching her anymore on TV. There's nothing new. There's no new content. There's nothing interesting and no more. So I completely agree. OK, let's move on. Then let's should we move to Beverly Hills? I think we're one more episode from like not even talking about Vanderpump Rules. Maybe we give lot more. I think one more we'll see. I will say I do want to do, and this will be 60 seconds or less a quick plug for 90 Day Fiance. If anyone is watching, are you watching Megan? Yeah, of course. Are you watching before the night? Yes. For the 90 days, I would say that this show, it's so good. Even Kagan, who can't stand any reality shows is thinks it's so good. We had to buy it on iTunes or not to watch calls like he's so obsessed with it. He it's so good to him. He texted all of his guy friends and told them to watch this season, which is for a guy that's like the most embarrassing that you can do insane. It's so good before the 90 days this current season, season four is phenomenal, and I was making analysis. Why is this so good? And this is why this show is so good. Season after season, it's not like The Bachelor, where the barrier of entry is being an attractive young person who wants it, who wants an Instagram following. Like for The Bachelor, you can't really tell if those people are there for the right reasons, and what made it good was when they were there to find love and were truly emotionally invested. And the show has gone so downhill, because now it's so obviously just a ploy to be famous, right? And I think it's getting also reality shows in general. But with 90 Day Fiance, the barrier of entry is too high. They have to have a foreign love interest who's a real person who they've carried on with for a long time, who they have to have an actual true, unique storyline. And I think that's why they can reproduce this magic season after season. And so I just would highly recommend this show before the 90 days is phenomenal. For 90 days is 90 days is great. Also a good thing right now because I am a little paranoid that we're going to run out of TV, especially because they're not able to film stuff right now, calling it six months. We're going to be screwed. So 90 day, there's a ton of content that you can go back and watch, like old seasons and stuff like that, to which I feel like it's the old seasons. That's good. Oh yes. Oh, really? I'm not current and I will get current. That's a vow I make to you guys, but all the seasons are great. OK, well, shall we move into Beverly Hills, which we do Roni first? What's your RHONY for? Yeah, it's your Real Housewives of New York was one of the better nights. I feel like this episode goes down in history as one of their better, fabulous, ludicrous. I think one's name. I'll start with some of my favorite parts. I think Sonia's drunken rant at the winery lunch. I think some of those iconic iconic, iconic Sonja moment. Not only that, it reminded me of my public speaking final also had the same tone and rambling nature, which I got. I got a C-minus in that cla*s. I also love the dress that Luann was wearing, that someone was like, if that Laura, Ashley or Ralph Lauren thing again, just a floral print wrap dress. They are actually so mean to her when she's not wearing club attire. That's crazy, you know? But do you know who deserved all of the s**t on that night and nobody brought it up? Was Ramona's dress look like it came out of Paris Hilton's closet circa 20 for a yellow sun dress with spaghetti straps like that and just like a triangle top and like heavy side boob. And then her necklace that was with it look like it came from early Kyle Richards interview. It was like I was just not, was he not? And then she flew a pashmina. So the amount of these women exhibit is mind blowing to mind blowing. I just would feel so exposed if I had any sort of outfit on like that, it would just make me feel uncomfortable. It's wild. How are we feeling about Leah? I love. I love her. Loving it. Loving everything she's doing. Keep it coming. I loved her commentary about Sonia. How Sonia thought an employee was like a good thing. Like what could be bad about an f boy that was so funny? Oh my god is old. Sonia is old. Sorry, I hate to say it, but she'll OK. But I don't think an f boy is is a good thing or something, is it? No, no. She didn't know what it meant. She didn't know like what that term meant. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I thought I liked her in this iceberg analogy. I feel like I have definitely people like that in my life who are icebergs. Like, you can really only see the tip of the iceberg that you can't see anything below the surface with them and like everything, will be perfect in their lives. And it really does make you feel like you're not close to those people. So I really like an analogy that like roundtable that they all want in, I thought it was great. Everyone really shared, starting with Ramona, fully like emotionally manipulating the whole conversation, like the way to get close to people is to reveal something about your own life. So I will do that and then they will feel close to me and do the same. In turn, it was so funny. It felt like such a canned response was like I grew up in a destructive home, like it felt like she had already rehearsed the bit. Oh, for sure. Totally ready to go. I also New York is so good. I think like I related to Tinsley feeling frustrated dating. I thought that was actually really cool for her to exhibit that frustration because I just couldn't imagine being like forty three and dating someone with children and being and being like on this very slow timeline. That would be so incredibly frustrating. And I think there are probably a lot of people in that situation. So I just thought it was cool that she I don't know that she, like, showed her cards there because I think a lot of people feel the same way. So, yeah, can I would like to ask our listeners about to fact check something if we could mobilize our troops? Joe Farrell or whoever owned that? Maybe it was Bobby Campbell. I don't know a lot of name. Big names were being thrown out during that. He referred to the DJ booth in that house as world cla*s. I don't know what a world class DJ booth looks like. I just want to know if someone can fact check this. I don't know if you know this, but I work for an RV company like can you fact check this is this is the thing he didn't show any of the gear in it. So it can't be world class like the fact that it's just like like an open balcony. Spray paint on it does not allude to the quality of it whatsoever. Also, it had the Volcom logo welcome, though there was a company that was big, like 15 years ago, spray painted on it. I think a lot of Vulcan at T.J. Max. Yeah. Cool world cla*s. Yeah. That also killed me. And he's like, It plays everywhere. I'm like on s**tty inhalers. Like what? Yeah. Like surround sound as groundbreaking technology. Yeah, yeah. And also that wicker, that wicker basket of a chair that belonged on a patio that somehow just grew up three feet and then took you down once it was so bizarre. The main attraction? Oh, did you guys catch that? Dorinda said that the winch they were going around the table and saying their most vulnerable things, that Dorinda's most vulnerable thing was needing a partner who had also managed multiple homes. Yes, I think of whole areas like that. It is never lived a life like this. He's never managed homes like that was so funny. That was good. And then along with them walking through and her talking about how people do stuff in London, how long does she live in London for? Like five years tops. Go away and guaranteed good guaranteed. Because honestly. Have you ever watched Love Island? Have you ever watched the ladies of London? Those people are just so showy, just as trashy as any American is guaranteed. They do home towards their absolute spot. There's upper crust New England vibes in America or in the US where they don't do like trashy stuff like that, and there's plenty of places where they do and vice versa in the UK. So calling your bluff? Yeah, it was so good. I will say I just want to take this up and say that make a new text of us and said Beverly Hills this week is great, great and all caps and I and I was thrilled at that text. I was so excited to watch. I begin the episode and it was just like Kyle packing. And I was like, Oh no, this actually does not seem like it's going to be good at all. Like, this seems pretty boring. Oh my gosh, it really just took getting past that scene. It was phenomenal. So, I mean, they made a misstep by starting out a scene with a the packing trope, which I really hate. Like, I don't look like anyone else. I also don't need to see a single other agency hat. Oh my like Kyle, wearing a hat from the agency is the worst thing in the world. The only good thing about it was it hid her bangs, which that was a bad move for her to cut bangs. All the will do unpopular opinion. Really? Yeah. And then I also don't think that the director required her to do that. They were like, Hey, this character that you played 40 years ago had been. So we just don't think people will catch the storyline if you don't have been still. So that didn't make sense. And also, you can clip in bangs, you can get extensions. We live in a marvelous time. Yeah. I don't know if she had a cut them. Yeah. I also want to say, speaking to the director, starting with things that weren't great, I feel like Mario is giving false expectations to every single woman alive right now. Like women out there, there is a middle ground between not settling and waiting for hot as hell. Mario, he's going to like, dig into the details of your zebra print fashion line and for the graphic designer on black zebra with the pink with the pink. It's incredible. Like that person actually doesn't exist. That's a unicorn. I thought that was so hilarious in that fashion line was the most hated, not a single piece of that. What I wear. OK, it was the biggest surprise ever that you came away. Or at least I came away respecting read as a business woman and fashion designer. Despite that Sherlock Holmes straw hat that she was wearing like, Oh my god, she really was like a boss. And it was so interesting to watch, and it was so clear that Kyle was not involved in her fashion line when she didn't even know how many looks there were. It was like the day before, and she was like, Yeah, we've got to figure out hair and makeup. It was outrageous. It seemed like she was seeing in the clothes for the first time, like the day before. Yeah, that zebra. No, I choked. And when she was like, We want to have it in all these stores and places and boutiques and hotel gift shops, I was like there that that's the only market that you have as a whole. It will never be anywhere else. It will just be in a hotel gift shop. And honestly, I don't care how much sentimental value it gives you. Having your daughters who are not professional mortar supermodels, who are not Gigi Hadid and Kendall Jenner walking the runway and having your friends, it's not a good look. It's not going to lend you any credibility. Oh my gosh, that poor situation of like all of those clothing racks and that tiny little New York apartment that gave me so much anxiety I like almost like skip through it was like a basement apartment with neon painted walls, and everyone had probably just been slaving away. Yeah. And then she just came in and was like, No, no, no, not like freaking out about like Herschel's. No, she just like being, she's Anna Wintour. Yeah, literally no funny. Yeah, that was shocking, I did love Erica, all of a sudden just being like like talking about the fact that she was a go go dancer and being like, Hey, let's head to Jersey. That was a good that was nice. I feel like she's given us something totally and calling time on the phone. I love getting to hear from Tom on the first episode. Yeah, so good. I think not of can we move on to the new characters because I think we're going to see some really interesting interactions from very conservative, very southern, very traditional. Sutton and Erika Jayne, like I love, belongs in New York. She belongs on the New York Housewife. She is so much more of like a lou-ann Sonja of Ramona adjacent character. She got bamboozled a Dolce and Gabbana. That outfit was the least flattering thing I've ever seen in my life, although her commentary on the other girls outfit was Oakland about Teddy Teddy's wearing a black romper. Cute. Yeah, I just loved it. They're so good. She's fabulous. She is my favorite new housewife, for sure. And Garcelle, I'm excited about this season's I'm ready for it. You know what I'm really loving is the whole like behind the scenes stuff. Lisa and Kyle were on the phone talking about what they were going to do about showing Denise. That was yelling like, Bravo, Bravo f ing Bravo because we wanted to stop felt like all of that stuff, I think is fascinating. I love that there are finally acknowledging that it's a TV show totally and showing us a little of that stuff too. I mean, I thought the episode was delightful. I loved I loved every moment, except for the packing scene. I was fully on board. I was saying, This is a great season. And then the last four minutes for the last two minutes and they do the promo for us this season. I literally had full body chills. It was so good. It was. It was. It was just beyond amazing. I I cannot wait to see how all this unfolds. Yeah, me neither. It's yeah, it's so good. OK, before we sign off, I just want to discuss Kristin Dodi's House tour. Have you seen it? Have I seen it? It was a three and a half minute video that I can never unsee. OK, well, I love it, I said. Have you seen it? Because I actually seen it. You sent me the link, but I wasn't going to bring that up. But I like when you introduced it like that. I was like, Excuse me, I was like, I'm one who told to like, Look this up immediately. I'm really leaning into this show host. Wow. But anyway, so you said to watch it and you were so rude, you were like, It's the ugliest designs I've ever seen in my life. Like, I thought I was about to walk into a T.J. Maxx circa 2003 when we went into our home tour. So I think it's so funny because I will just say overall, it's a perfectly nice home and environment. It is not like Vicki Gunvalson house circa season two, a Real Housewives of Orange County, which I thought it was going to be OK. Yes, I probably exaggerated my reaction a little bit. Here are my thoughts. I struggle with celebrities who have plenty of money, or at least have more money than I do. But yet my room is cuter when I get all my stuff off Facebook Marketplace. The fact that she had some sort of like Architectural Digest type of walk through when like there was really nothing that exciting to see. The most exciting thing were the different shades of grey pillows that she had, and she must have said the word texture 40 40 times easily. OK, here. Here's what I have to say about the overall aesthetic. It's not my vibe. You know what vibe it is. It's very much like Target, but not even trying to not be target. Like it's just that baby pink that gray the floor mat when you before you walk in that had cursive lettering that said, Have a great day or what it's done, I'd have the best day ever. Yes, there's a there's a certain person who is unabashedly embracing of words on coffee mugs and words on T-shirts and words on picture frames, who runs a clothing company called James May. Perhaps before I watch the video, I lived in a beautiful place where there weren't that many of those people. I thought that to be that person, you had to be from, like the Midwest wearing 19 year old phase of your life. I didn't even realize that there were thirty six year old famous women in L.A. fully embracing that aesthetic. The fact that she is actively spending money in 2020 on decor that looks like that is just alarming to me. It's like, that's one thing that those those are your objects from her old house and you're just like bringing them in. But the fact that you worked with an interior designer to create like basically a house that looks like a standard Airbnb wild to me, also rose gold appliances. Yeah, the rose gold really threw me. I'm all about some copper, but rose gold fixtures are not. Her attractive and I will. I was texting with our with our mutual friend Candace, and I was just saying she basically based her appliances are going to last for like 10 years off of what she would buy in a Michael Kors watch. That's what my girls, what it can to say. Candace was laughing at the Gibson guitars, and she was like, I forgot. They're all musicians. OK, one dog is named Gibson next after Gibson Guitars and Stevie Nicks and the other dogs named Bowie after David Bowie. I had no idea Christian Dougherty was such a groovy chick like I thought her general Laguna Beach boutique aesthetic was the result of generally having kind of poor taste. I didn't realize it was actually an actual nod to an era in America the 1970s. That's interesting. I did learn something from this video. It's interesting, but I'm also like, Yeah, everyone who has a graphic tee like Stevie Nicks, that's not an interesting opinion to anymore. Maybe I'm just being harsh, probably overtly like in any sort of maudlin musician past. Twenty five is just really not a good naming your dogs after it. I'm sorry I had when you were an adult, you get to drink wine during the day. I think when you're an adult, you stop loving Stevie Nicks. Can we also talk about her creative studio for James May? This is a controversial opinion and our sister had it, but I actually thought that was a cute little room not going to lie. It was definitely the best room of the house. The fact that she had a creative studio that was essentially just like in the back of the house was like shocking to me. I'm like, Oh, do you have employees like, do you really like, use this? Second thing, I didn't realize that her bedroom that she was showing was, I thought that was the guest bedroom. I thought we were going to move into a more impressive. No, it was actually just her bedroom, and it literally looked like a guest bedroom. So no tape, really? Yeah, there's something really disturbing about that. I don't know if all the other cast members like there's obviously such a discrepancy in and how much they're making, or Kristen is just the smart one, and she bought something she could just fully pay with cash for. And the rest are kind of living paycheck to paycheck, just their bigger paychecks. And I don't know, I like I guess that's my theory, but I will say it is so depressing, like when you look at the outside of her house and I want for someone to say, preface this with, it's a perfectly nice house, perfectly like except the home of a renter probably will be a renter for the next 10 years that we're both renting. We both don't have near that square footage. Just want to pay my respects and formally say this is a respectable place to live. That said, it's actually super depressing, too, that you have to basically become a celebrity and to have a small, extremely modest home that in Kentucky would cost one hundred and ten thousand dollars. Yeah, like in Los Angeles. That is so sad. You cannot even have a little bit of space in L.A. without basically becoming enormously successful compared to everyone else. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty bleak. Love it. Pretty bleak. I'm glad I decided to put down roots here. I'm not sure if anyone's noticed, but Megan does not have an opinion on this house because she actually had to go. So she's not no longer with us. Children are wrapping this up, but I think that I just have to say I'm very much looking forward to next week's reality television. I think that Beverly Hills is going to be everything we need right now. I'm hopeful for the future. I don't know if you guys will get another Vanderpump recap next week. 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